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Mike Mazzeo @MazzNYC With a possible opt-out at MetLife Stadium available soon, Sen. Joe Addabbo wants the Jets back in New York, specifically, Willets Point, Queens. "This is a huge, Herculean longshot, I get that. But I hate missed opportunities." |
I live in Westchester County and based on a very non-random sample I’d say the two predominant pairings are:
Giants/Yankees
Jets/Mets
After that maybe a few Giants/Mets fans and almost never Jets/Yankees.
+1
I think I’m a bit of an outlier in that I’m a Giants/Yankees fan, but I also root for the Mets (so long as it’s not against the Yanks.)
I live in Westchester County and based on a very non-random sample I’d say the two predominant pairings are:
Giants/Yankees
Jets/Mets
After that maybe a few Giants/Mets fans and almost never Jets/Yankees.
My hypothesis on this is that it depends when your ancestors adopted professional football. I suspect a common story is something like "My father was a huge Brooklyn Dodgers fan who also liked the New York Football Giants. The Dodgers moved and rooting for the Yankees was impossible, so he became a Mets fan, and it stuck in the family." The Jets ("Titans") did not exist until 1959, so if your ancestors adopted football before then, the Giants were likely your team.
That is roughly my own story, give or take a generation here or there.
That equity, as well as the Giants' equal share, would lose a lot of value. You still have all the financing costs, maybe slightly less upkeep, but still most of the upkeep, and you've lost a tenant that can't be replaced.
How do you build a new stadium for multiple teams in this day and age and rely on crews with cherry pickers to manually change colored disks on outside lights to light up the exterior based on which team is home?
I think you may be on to something there!
They opt-out, as I understand it, is just for the lease of the land from the State. So, I guess, either (but not both) team could leave and stop paying rent to the State for the right to play games there. The costs of the Stadium carry on, with the two teams bearing those equally as co-owners. Whether the Jets could get the Giants, or anyone else, to buy their 50% share of the stadium is anyone's guess, but obviously a stadium with two NFL tenants is worth more than a stadium with one.
+1 Exactly. Not sure why certain people (old timers I bet) don't realize how common that is. There are plenty of Jets-Yankees fans too.
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I live in Westchester County and based on a very non-random sample I’d say the two predominant pairings are:
Giants/Yankees
Jets/Mets
After that maybe a few Giants/Mets fans and almost never Jets/Yankees.
My hypothesis on this is that it depends when your ancestors adopted professional football. I suspect a common story is something like "My father was a huge Brooklyn Dodgers fan who also liked the New York Football Giants. The Dodgers moved and rooting for the Yankees was impossible, so he became a Mets fan, and it stuck in the family." The Jets ("Titans") did not exist until 1959, so if your ancestors adopted football before then, the Giants were likely your team.
That is roughly my own story, give or take a generation here or there.
Yeah my family was Football and Baseball Giants, switched to Mets after the tragedy of '57.
+1. Get them the hell out of Giants Stadium
I live in Westchester County and based on a very non-random sample I’d say the two predominant pairings are:
Giants/Yankees
Jets/Mets
After that maybe a few Giants/Mets fans and almost never Jets/Yankees.
I am also Giants/Mets
Would the Giants even want sole ownership costs?
Does anyone still have the rendering of the new Giants stadium, brick faced? (pre metlife)
Dave my man, can’t you just take a break from the Mets hate for the off season!
Also a Giants/Mets fan. I was 12 in 1986 and “entitled”
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It seems that is referenced a lot, but I’m a Giants-Mets and know plenty of Jets-Yankees.
+1 Exactly. Not sure why certain people (old timers I bet) don't realize how common that is. There are plenty of Jets-Yankees fans too.
Welp, I think the Giants-Mets fans on this site represent a a highly selective sample. If you happen to be a Mets fan, by definition you are going to be a Giants fan because you are on BBI. So, while I'm sure there are Giants-Mets fans out there, I believe there are a lot more Jets-Mets fans.
Cost of construction in TX is cheaper than NY/NJ due to labor vs. non-labor wages/benefits/etc, government expenses, infrastructure that was required around Met Life. It's impossible to compare the 2 regions as far as expenses go.
I enjoyed the 86 thug years of the Mets. I went to Shea a lot. I appreciated the NY sack exchange Jets but didn't really grok the culture or the fan base. The 80's JET logo was cool though.Jet age and totally 60's in it's futurism. The new one sucks ass
Best JETS logo - ( New Window )
I’m all for this if there would be a way for NYG to maybe salvage the existing MetLife in some way. Maybe some permanent statues outside, or permanent NYG fixtures. I’m not sure there is anything they can do aesthetically to the building that would cost a ton of money.
Thats not possible considering that they are 1/2 owners of the stadium. Surely the politicians don't think the Giants are going to buy them out
citifield is nowhere near large enough capacity to support football
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I live in Westchester County and based on a very non-random sample I’d say the two predominant pairings are:
Giants/Yankees
Jets/Mets
After that maybe a few Giants/Mets fans and almost never Jets/Yankees.
My hypothesis on this is that it depends when your ancestors adopted professional football. I suspect a common story is something like "My father was a huge Brooklyn Dodgers fan who also liked the New York Football Giants. The Dodgers moved and rooting for the Yankees was impossible, so he became a Mets fan, and it stuck in the family." The Jets ("Titans") did not exist until 1959, so if your ancestors adopted football before then, the Giants were likely your team.
That is roughly my own story, give or take a generation here or there.
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It seems that is referenced a lot, but I’m a Giants-Mets and know plenty of Jets-Yankees.
+1 Exactly. Not sure why certain people (old timers I bet) don't realize how common that is. There are plenty of Jets-Yankees fans too.
Welp, I think the Giants-Mets fans on this site represent a a highly selective sample. If you happen to be a Mets fan, by definition you are going to be a Giants fan because you are on BBI. So, while I'm sure there are Giants-Mets fans out there, I believe there are a lot more Jets-Mets fans.
You'd think wrong gramps.
I am not sure they would have the real estate to do this but I the thought might be to build an additional stadium to Citifield and the NYCFC arena. I have never been there but I think this is how Philadelphia is configured.
I have my doubts this is possible but I think that would be the idea.
Agreed, Greg.
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Fuck them. that's where they really belong. I don't want my Mets anywhere near them.
Not interesting or unusual at all. Most of your Brooklynites are Giants/Mets fans.
Interesting… Giants/Mets fan!
The usual split is Giants/Yankees Jets/Mets
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created for both teams.
I’m all for this if there would be a way for NYG to maybe salvage the existing MetLife in some way. Maybe some permanent statues outside, or permanent NYG fixtures. I’m not sure there is anything they can do aesthetically to the building that would cost a ton of money.
Thats not possible considering that they are 1/2 owners of the stadium. Surely the politicians don't think the Giants are going to buy them out
Apparently Woody nixed the roof after the Jets were asked to buy in. I don’t really mind no roof - football is meant to be played outdoors, IMO - but Woody cheating out made the stadium much less enticing. It would be just like him to turn and run.
It was reported when the Stadium was being planned that both teams balked at paying for the roof. The sports authority wanted it, the teams jointly shot it down.
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Apparently Woody nixed the roof after the Jets were asked to buy in. I don’t really mind no roof - football is meant to be played outdoors, IMO - but Woody cheating out made the stadium much less enticing. It would be just like him to turn and run.
It was reported when the Stadium was being planned that both teams balked at paying for the roof. The sports authority wanted it, the teams jointly shot it down.
Incredible short-sightedness and stupidity.
"Football is meant to be played in the cold, blah blah blah".
Grow up, build a retractable roof and host the Super Bowl every 10 years, Final Four or NCAA Regionals every 4-5 years, and any number of other things you can't do between January and May because the weather sucks.
Point blank, the stadium in Dallas is amazing. As are the stadiums in Indy, Minny, Atlanta, etc. MetLife Stadium sucks, but at least fans get to sit a million miles away from the field and freeze their asses off in December to prove a point.
Obviously sharing the stadium gives NYG more financial flexibility - that's a good thing...
Fans who want the stadium to themselves is weird.
Guess those same fans wanted to pay double whatever PSL's they were already swindled into?!
Do you also get upset that the stadium is shared by Eminem or the Eagles or Bruce or the World Cup?
Grow up!
How do you build a new stadium for multiple teams in this day and age and rely on crews with cherry pickers to manually change colored disks on outside lights to light up the exterior based on which team is home?
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The Giants, supposedly, had a design that was estimated to cost less than half of what it cost to build MetLife. How and why did we end up with a generic design that was not state of the are even when it was being discussed that costs what it did?
How do you build a new stadium for multiple teams in this day and age and rely on crews with cherry pickers to manually change colored disks on outside lights to light up the exterior based on which team is home?
Very good.