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but Rj's game last night is what hr should be for right now, he strugglez when he takes so many shots and controls the ball right now..

Take a step back, play off Randle and Brunson and take what the defense is giving you, eventually the defense will key on Randle and Brunson and you should have more open looks..

Defend, rebound, move the ball and get out in transition, thats where you need to live for right now

He really hasn't added much to his offensive game. No low-post moves to speak of, no jump shot... it's put-backs and alley-oops or nothing. He's better than his draft position but IMO not yet as good as his contract.

In comment 15927473 nygiants16 said:

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but Rj's game last night is what hr should be for right now, he strugglez when he takes so many shots and controls the ball right now.. Take a step back, play off Randle and Brunson and take what the defense is giving you, eventually the defense will key on Randle and Brunson and you should have more open looks.. Defend, rebound, move the ball and get out in transition, thats where you need to live for right now

totally agree-I am not sure what happened with his progression,maybe its poor coaching,but you are 100% correct.His shot selection is terrible.He does Defend and Rebound,tho his D is not where it was last year...Injury???
But overall his efficiency needs to improve

This team is going no where until Thibs is fired and Randle is traded. That lazy fuck plays zero defense and is a 3 point chucker

Not that we're making more than one pick anyway (either they won't convey or we'll trade them), but I glanced at Tankathon for the first time.

In comment 15927488 81_Great_Dane said:

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He really hasn't added much to his offensive game. No low-post moves to speak of, no jump shot... it's put-backs and alley-oops or nothing. He's better than his draft position but IMO not yet as good as his contract.

Yep,and to make matters worse,he has taken to twitter to air his grievances about his lack of inclusion in the Offense

but this guycompares RJB stats from last season through 19 games to this season. He is always a slow starter but so far each season has gotten hot and finished with solid numbers. I don't see why would should expect him to do the same this season.


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I can't post the graphic but these were the #'s through 19 games.

Last season MPG - 32.5
This season MPG - 34.6

Last season PPG - 14.5
This season PPG - 18.4

Last season RPG - 5.9
This season RPG - 5.4

Last season APG - 2.3
This season APG - 3.0

Last season TPG - 1.8
This season TPG - 2.3

Last season FG% - 38.8
This season FG% - 39.4

Last season FT% - 71.7
This season FT% - 76.5

Last season 3PT% - 32%
This season 3PT% - 26.4

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Thanks for the link dude,actually his FG % overall is actually higher than I thought...but 26% from 3 maaaannn why keep shooting them?
He stands there at the 3pt line waitin to get the pass then shoots.....he needs to learn to drive and either dish or take a 10 footer

In comment 15927582 steve in ky said:

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but this guycompares RJB stats from last season through 19 games to this season. He is always a slow starter but so far each season has gotten hot and finished with solid numbers. I don't see why would should expect him to do the same this season. Knicks Fan TV 🏀🎥📺🏁 @KnicksFanTv Is it simply just another slow start for RJ Barrett? 🤔 #Knicks I can't post the graphic but these were the #'s through 19 games. Last season MPG - 32.5 This season MPG - 34.6 Last season PPG - 14.5 This season PPG - 18.4 Last season RPG - 5.9 This season RPG - 5.4 Last season APG - 2.3 This season APG - 3.0 Last season TPG - 1.8 This season TPG - 2.3 Last season FG% - 38.8 This season FG% - 39.4 Last season FT% - 71.7 This season FT% - 76.5 Last season 3PT% - 32% This season 3PT% - 26.4

You can look at his scoring numbers and say yeah Rj had a good year last year but his effeciency is absolutely horrific, he shot more last year thats why he got better..

Its what will hold Rj back, he is shooting 40% from the field, his Efg% is 44%..

he is averaging 18 ppg on 16 shots..

Id rather him score 15 on 10 shots than 20 on 17 shots..

In comment 15927600 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15927582 steve in ky said: Quote: but this guycompares RJB stats from last season through 19 games to this season. He is always a slow starter but so far each season has gotten hot and finished with solid numbers. I don't see why would should expect him to do the same this season. Knicks Fan TV 🏀🎥📺🏁 @KnicksFanTv Is it simply just another slow start for RJ Barrett? 🤔 #Knicks I can't post the graphic but these were the #'s through 19 games. Last season MPG - 32.5 This season MPG - 34.6 Last season PPG - 14.5 This season PPG - 18.4 Last season RPG - 5.9 This season RPG - 5.4 Last season APG - 2.3 This season APG - 3.0 Last season TPG - 1.8 This season TPG - 2.3 Last season FG% - 38.8 This season FG% - 39.4 Last season FT% - 71.7 This season FT% - 76.5 Last season 3PT% - 32% This season 3PT% - 26.4 You can look at his scoring numbers and say yeah Rj had a good year last year but his effeciency is absolutely horrific, he shot more last year thats why he got better.. Its what will hold Rj back, he is shooting 40% from the field, his Efg% is 44%.. he is averaging 18 ppg on 16 shots.. Id rather him score 15 on 10 shots than 20 on 17 shots..

His efficiency is awful..but this is fixable
Coaching and developing a mid range game will help
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You can point any stats or blame coaching but I have no idea how anyone has watched him the past few seasons could feel good about him long term. If you want him to take a step back, then what do you have? An overpaid player who really doesn’t excel in one area.

He has been given every opportunity and has been a major disappointment borderline bust. I honestly think he hurts than helps in most games- especially against good teams.

RJ progress? LOL. Thibs is likely the worst coach in the league for young players. That’s why it never made sense to bring him to the Knicks who were clearly rebuilding. This team is stuck in purgatory and Thibs is the perfect coach to coast through it and keep them there. He brings nothing. And we suck defensively, which is supposed to be his thing.

I like what I am seeing so far....he is taking high %age shots so far

can just do whatever he wants on the court but breathe on him and its a foul

have a logical conversation with you. He’s basically at or below his career norms right now and has looked pretty bad. So if you like what you are seeing, then I have to believe you are just being stubborn in your view.

I’ve always been a fan of RJ and I’m hopeful that he’ll grow as a player…but the start to this year absolutely isn’t showing me that.

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have a logical conversation with you. He’s basically at or below his career norms right now and has looked pretty bad. So if you like what you are seeing, then I have to believe you are just being stubborn in your view. I’ve always been a fan of RJ and I’m hopeful that he’ll grow as a player…but the start to this year absolutely isn’t showing me that.

i think he was talking about the game currently being played

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In comment 15927631 CooperDash said: Quote: have a logical conversation with you. He’s basically at or below his career norms right now and has looked pretty bad. So if you like what you are seeing, then I have to believe you are just being stubborn in your view. I’ve always been a fan of RJ and I’m hopeful that he’ll grow as a player…but the start to this year absolutely isn’t showing me that. i think he was talking about the game currently being played

Fair enough…my bad, then.

Yes tonight...
He's been riding the struggle bus all yeqr so far..
Elbow jumpers rather than 3s...that's his ticket off the bus

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In comment 15927633 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15927631 CooperDash said: Quote: have a logical conversation with you. He’s basically at or below his career norms right now and has looked pretty bad. So if you like what you are seeing, then I have to believe you are just being stubborn in your view. I’ve always been a fan of RJ and I’m hopeful that he’ll grow as a player…but the start to this year absolutely isn’t showing me that. i think he was talking about the game currently being played Fair enough…my bad, then.

No worries dude

Finally woke up...

he is a horrible defender

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he is a horrible defender

He really is awful
Cannot protect the rim...
I thought he would bring more offensively but he hasnt..
Thibs seems to playing him not Sims...

This first half is why..

Knicks down 2 with Brunson and Randle not shooting well

In comment 15927657 nygiants16 said:

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Knicks down 2 with Brunson and Randle not shooting well

yesss,and did you notice his shot selection?
Much much better....

I fear Bucks will blitz us to start 3rd..much better team.

but my god the refs let him get away with anything he wants, he travels constantly, shoves people out of the way and never gets called

competing their asses off.

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is lower his shoulder and he will get a foul call

is why we say Rj has low IQ, why are you attacking their best defender? swing the ball and let Brunson attack Carter..

I get you are scoring well tonight but not against Jrue Hokiday

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is lower his shoulder and he will get a foul call

Yup..then he will take 25 seconds to take a free throw

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is why we say Rj has low IQ, why are you attacking their best defender? swing the ball and let Brunson attack Carter.. I get you are scoring well tonight but not against Jrue Hokiday

Against probably the best perimeter defender in the sport. Doesn’t get one pass in on the possession. Has to be smarter there

With a turnover then walked back

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go under the screen, than you are mad you gave up the 3 you chuck up a 3

and of course he hits it. Does our player hit the clutch three....never, ever, never!!!!!! So annoying

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go under the screen, than you are mad you gave up the 3 you chuck up a 3

Such a killer sequence. Awful shot selection and you can’t go under that pick under any circumstances. Bullshit man.

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but he just has no BBiq, his go to at the end of games is constantly iso, it doesnt work man at the end of games

are the reason the Knicks were in a dogfight, if Brunson has a normal effecient game Knicks probably win this with ease..

I want to see this same defensive effort though the rest of the season and the Knicks will be fine

Usually after a tough loss, i will text my buddy and say to him please tell me you heard the Knicks are trying to improve.

Its usually coming from another team, so again take FWIW..

Knicks are shopping Randle, they have called multiple teams to see what level of interest they have.

Knicks and Suns have had multiple talks about Crowder but the Suns do not want Fournier.

Speaking of Fournier some teams want 2 of the Knicks protected 1sts to take Fournier.

Around the league they think Thibs is safe until at least the end of the year unless the wheels fall off and players start complaining.

Zach Lavine or Demar Derozan are the 2 big names being thrown out as a surprise trade candidate at the deadline

In comment 15927799 nygiants16 said:

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Usually after a tough loss, i will text my buddy and say to him please tell me you heard the Knicks are trying to improve. Its usually coming from another team, so again take FWIW.. Knicks are shopping Randle, they have called multiple teams to see what level of interest they have. Knicks and Suns have had multiple talks about Crowder but the Suns do not want Fournier. Speaking of Fournier some teams want 2 of the Knicks protected 1sts to take Fournier. Around the league they think Thibs is safe until at least the end of the year unless the wheels fall off and players start complaining. Zach Lavine or Demar Derozan are the 2 big names being thrown out as a surprise trade candidate at the deadline

Sign me up for LaVine. I had thrown his name out there on a thread last week, but didn't think he was actually available. Just makes sense based on where the Bulls are. It feels like he has been around forever, but is still only 27 years old. He would be a nice get after missing out on Mitchell.

As for Fournier, there isn't really any point in attaching assets to get rid of him. The Knicks aren't going to be able to do anything in free agency with or without him, he's a free agent after next season. Either ride it out with him glued to the bench or try to move him as an expiring next year.

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Usually after a tough loss, i will text my buddy and say to him please tell me you heard the Knicks are trying to improve. Its usually coming from another team, so again take FWIW.. Knicks are shopping Randle, they have called multiple teams to see what level of interest they have. If we trade Randle,just remember we lose 20/9/5,so that needs to come back into the building.Obi clearly is not ready to replace that.Granted Randle's D can lack from time time,but he is still our best player.In terms of Fournier,I forget how long his contract is,but I beleive its expiring...so why would we trade away those picks,unless there is an immediate use for his salary??? Knicks and Suns have had multiple talks about Crowder but the Suns do not want Fournier. Speaking of Fournier some teams want 2 of the Knicks protected 1sts to take Fournier. Around the league they think Thibs is safe until at least the end of the year unless the wheels fall off and players start complaining. Zach Lavine or Demar Derozan are the 2 big names being thrown out as a surprise trade candidate at the deadline

Being a closer in this league,but he had a monster game last night...and if Brunson was healthy to guide us down the stretch that game was winnable.
RJ showed me he can improve his shot selection...and if he learns to make those floaters near the rim...he can be a 22 pt a game guy.When healthy he is a shut down defender,who gets 4 rebounds a game....
He ducks after writing this....

In comment 15927837 AG5686 said:

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Being a closer in this league,but he had a monster game last night...and if Brunson was healthy to guide us down the stretch that game was winnable. RJ showed me he can improve his shot selection...and if he learns to make those floaters near the rim...he can be a 22 pt a game guy.When healthy he is a shut down defender,who gets 4 rebounds a game.... He ducks after writing this....

To be fair, Brunson had the ball in his hands the last 2 home games with a chance to be the hero and missed both times so lets not put it all on Barrett

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Usually after a tough loss, i will text my buddy and say to him please tell me you heard the Knicks are trying to improve. Its usually coming from another team, so again take FWIW.. Knicks are shopping Randle, they have called multiple teams to see what level of interest they have. Knicks and Suns have had multiple talks about Crowder but the Suns do not want Fournier. Speaking of Fournier some teams want 2 of the Knicks protected 1sts to take Fournier. Around the league they think Thibs is safe until at least the end of the year unless the wheels fall off and players start complaining. Zach Lavine or Demar Derozan are the 2 big names being thrown out as a surprise trade candidate at the deadline

No reason to move Fournier if you have to attach his picks. I actually think he can be useful off the bench and seems like he won't cause any problems. Could also use his salary in a trade at some point.

What teams would be interested in Randle? He certainly help the team in the right situation but I think its going to be hard to find.

Lavine would be good here and fun as hell to watch. I wonder what the ask/cost would be...

This roster desperately needs a shakeup though.

You've already ripped the Band-Aid off and pulled him from the rotation, and he's been a good teammate so far to his credit - at this point it's best to use him this summer as an expiring contract unless a significant trade materializes at the deadline.

starter at shooting guard. There's no need for LaVine. Grimes may not turn out to be as good as LaVine offensively, but he'll be much better defensively and will be an effective scorer.