Consider this a post Detroit win/pre Bucks game tonight thread.
Feel free to post a Knicks/Bucks thread if you wish.
My sense so far is when this team is healthy Mitch,Grimes,RJ,IQ....it will gel-especially on the Defensive end of the floor.
Last night was a thumping,but the truth is,as well as we played on O,our Defense sucked....it just so happened that our opponent sucked even worse.
Sitting here at 10-11,I feel pretty good about the team.
We had 2 epic battles with Memphis,who seems like a playoff bound team,and both games came down to 1 possession.
The loss to Portland was essentially the same,a 1 possession game against an above .500 team.
These next 4 games will be difficult,and if we can get 2 wins,I would be extremely pleased.The sked gets easier afterwards....
They've now lost 5 of 6 and sit at 10-11. That top 10 protected pick could come in just right in the high lottery.
Knicks get them next on Saturday at 12:30 at MSG. Need a home win.
Good thing we didn't tamper in order to get Brunson
Hahahahhhhaaaaa
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In comment 15927983 Enzo said:
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EVERY signing from summer of 2021 didn't work out - Kemba, Noel, Rose, Fournier. The only one that I wouldn't call a disaster was Burks. And that's without even getting into Randle who at best you can call a TBD - but who probably has negative value around the league right now.
I would argue the Burks Noel Rose deals helped alot...it got us to 4th place in the east and the playoffs..
The Kemba Fournier deals seemed great at the time but didn't pan out
Neither ones are godawful long term disasters tho...
Mitchell would have been a mistake
Dejounte Murray...hmmm that would have been a great fit.
Would you rather be like the Nets and go all in for Durant/Irving?
Or wait for the right FA and develop the young guys??
Ill take the later thank you
You wouldn’t want Kevin Durant on the Knicks? Then who exactly is the right FA you want to wait for?
And how exactly would Mitchell have been a mistake?
You need stars to win and contend in the NBA. The Knicks don’t have and currently don’t have a realistic path to get one.
I meant Duran with Kyrie as a package.
I would take Durant right now if we could get him...
Its pretty inexcusable they let him walk for nothing and botched the extension talks. He also fits so damn well next to Luka...Able to play off ball with him and take the lead when he's on the bench.
I wonder if theres a possible Randle trade with Dallas?
Dinwiddie happened to have an almost invisible offensive game last night against Detroit (2 points in 28 minutes, 6 assists) as Luka, THJ and Christian Wood carried the load.
Mavs have had some tough losses in their recent slump and did beat the Warriors for their most recent win. Knicks need to show up tomorrow.
They dont have a consistent 2nd scorer and playing alongside Luka you have to be good off the ball as well, Brunson was a great fit next to him..
They dont have enough wing defenders, Bullock and Finney-smith are good defenders but they are spot up shooters on the other end so when they are on the court Luka is doing everything.
They also play extremely small so teams can just get to the rim at will. They play Kleiba a lot at center and when he is on from 3 it can be an advantage but defensively they are horrid
True, but they had Dinwiddie last year (and Timmy) in addition to Brunson, so now everyone’s moved up a spot in the pecking order.
True, but they had Dinwiddie last year (and Timmy) in addition to Brunson, so now everyone’s moved up a spot in the pecking order.
They had him after the deadline. And with Brunson gone he's playing a somewhat different role this year.
Christian Wood was a significant offseason pickup. Seventeen and eight, 40% from three, 26 minutes per game.
They got off to a good start, have hit a bad patch. I wish them the worst, since Knicks have their draft pick, but I wouldn't cry for them just yet, Argentina.
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In comment 15927986 AG5686 said:
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In comment 15927983 Enzo said:
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EVERY signing from summer of 2021 didn't work out - Kemba, Noel, Rose, Fournier. The only one that I wouldn't call a disaster was Burks. And that's without even getting into Randle who at best you can call a TBD - but who probably has negative value around the league right now.
I would argue the Burks Noel Rose deals helped alot...it got us to 4th place in the east and the playoffs..
The Kemba Fournier deals seemed great at the time but didn't pan out
Neither ones are godawful long term disasters tho...
Mitchell would have been a mistake
Dejounte Murray...hmmm that would have been a great fit.
Would you rather be like the Nets and go all in for Durant/Irving?
Or wait for the right FA and develop the young guys??
Ill take the later thank you
You wouldn’t want Kevin Durant on the Knicks? Then who exactly is the right FA you want to wait for?
And how exactly would Mitchell have been a mistake?
You need stars to win and contend in the NBA. The Knicks don’t have and currently don’t have a realistic path to get one.
I meant Duran with Kyrie as a package.
I would take Durant right now if we could get him...
The 1 year deals were solid the resigning and running it back was the bad decision that caused the team to trade picks to dump those deals.
The 4th seed was the worse thing that happened to this team.
It cause them to sign Randle to big money and re-up all older role players to 2+ year contracts
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True, but they had Dinwiddie last year (and Timmy) in addition to Brunson, so now everyone’s moved up a spot in the pecking order.
They had him after the deadline. And with Brunson gone he's playing a somewhat different role this year.
Christian Wood was a significant offseason pickup. Seventeen and eight, 40% from three, 26 minutes per game.
They got off to a good start, have hit a bad patch. I wish them the worst, since Knicks have their draft pick, but I wouldn't cry for them just yet, Argentina.
It's still an enormous mistake to let a borderline all star ( sorry I love Brunson) walk for nothing. Even if it would be to use him in a trade down the line.
When you have a generational talent like Luka, you do everything possible to surround him with the best players. Especially given Brunson's playoff record.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they are capped out anyway for a few years.
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True, but they had Dinwiddie last year (and Timmy) in addition to Brunson, so now everyone’s moved up a spot in the pecking order.
They had him after the deadline. And with Brunson gone he's playing a somewhat different role this year.
Christian Wood was a significant offseason pickup. Seventeen and eight, 40% from three, 26 minutes per game.
They got off to a good start, have hit a bad patch. I wish them the worst, since Knicks have their draft pick, but I wouldn't cry for them just yet, Argentina.
It's still an enormous mistake to let a borderline all star ( sorry I love Brunson) walk for nothing. Even if it would be to use him in a trade down the line.
When you have a generational talent like Luka, you do everything possible to surround him with the best players. Especially given Brunson's playoff record.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they are capped out anyway for a few years.
Capped out for the next 3 years minimum..
and cant trade a first until 2025
It's still an enormous mistake to let a borderline all star ( sorry I love Brunson) walk for nothing. Even if it would be to use him in a trade down the line.
When you have a generational talent like Luka, you do everything possible to surround him with the best players. Especially given Brunson's playoff record.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they are capped out anyway for a few years.
Mavs did handle Brunson wrong, and realized it too late, because of the favorable treatment the NBA cap rules give for keeping your own players.
Safe to say they didn't see him as all-star material, or they wouldn't have made the mistake to begin with. And, at the end, they weren't going to go too crazy to keep him and outbid the Knicks.
Brunson has played very well here, offensively, but he hasn't made a difference in the Knicks' won-loss record (yet). And the Mavs lost to the Pistons last night because they gave up too many points, not because they couldn't score.
Tomorrow's a chance to make the Mavs pay for their mistake and improve the draft pick the Knicks own.
There have been a handful of games where but for his handling and made shots in the 4th quarter would have definitely been losses last season. So he has made an impact if we want to argue it.
The team defense has been awful with a "defensive genius" at HC.
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In comment 15927986 AG5686 said:
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In comment 15927983 Enzo said:
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EVERY signing from summer of 2021 didn't work out - Kemba, Noel, Rose, Fournier. The only one that I wouldn't call a disaster was Burks. And that's without even getting into Randle who at best you can call a TBD - but who probably has negative value around the league right now.
I would argue the Burks Noel Rose deals helped alot...it got us to 4th place in the east and the playoffs..
The Kemba Fournier deals seemed great at the time but didn't pan out
Neither ones are godawful long term disasters tho...
Mitchell would have been a mistake
Dejounte Murray...hmmm that would have been a great fit.
Would you rather be like the Nets and go all in for Durant/Irving?
Or wait for the right FA and develop the young guys??
Ill take the later thank you
You wouldn’t want Kevin Durant on the Knicks? Then who exactly is the right FA you want to wait for?
And how exactly would Mitchell have been a mistake?
You need stars to win and contend in the NBA. The Knicks don’t have and currently don’t have a realistic path to get one.
I meant Duran with Kyrie as a package.
I would take Durant right now if we could get him...
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I would argue the Burks Noel Rose deals helped alot...it got us to 4th place in the east and the playoffs..
The 1 year deals were solid the resigning and running it back was the bad decision that caused the team to trade picks to dump those deals.
The 4th seed was the worse thing that happened to this team.
It cause them to sign Randle to big money and re-up all older role players to 2+ year contracts
Re-signing Randle didn't hurt at all. Know where they'd be right now if they let Randle walk? 5-6 games worse with more cap room. Yay.