It looks like the OBJ sweepstakes (whether you think it is a lottery or a booby prize) is down to Bills, Giants, Cowboys. Assuming he wants more than a rest of the year deal, the Giants are in by far the best cap position to sign him. The Bills are $10MM over the cap next year, the Cowboys have about $2MM of space (which includes rolling over the $7MM they have right now) and the Giants have about $50MM of space (which includes rolling over the $3MM they have in space now - not sure why this shows up that high since I thought they had about $1MM.) Numbers are from Spotrac - one of the five best websites of all time!
It seems to me if we want OBJ, we can have him. I am in favor of making it happen, as long as he is healthy and the downside risk in guaranteed money is limited (say no more then $10MM). We will see. Keep in mind that if we draft a wide receiver in the first round it will cost us between $15-$20MM of guaranteed money. Less if we win the Super Bowl.
Obviously, the reason the Giants have so much more space is that we do not have a starting QB on the roster for next year.
The signings of Jones, Barkley etc. wouldn't necessarily kill the cap space next year (those deals will have bonus $$'s etc.) but, we do have a ton of players coming off contracts so many positions will need to be signed and or filled.
I don't think Schoen, Daboll, and Mara will take the risk, either.
Depending on how this season plays out, if Giants make. Decision they can get my keep one of Barkley or Jones, I think they keep Jones
Tough to justify a second contract for a running back when there are so many good ones found n later rounds
the mistakes of the past have been letting all the talent walk out the door, not adding it
i'm for him signing here. and we could still add a WR in the draft. but it wont hurt having multiple talented WR on the roster. Isnt that what yall have been complaining about all year??
do you not remember how good OBJ looked in the superbowl??
NYG is not close to being a superbowl team so if OBJ is 100 percent healthy but wants outrageous money, he ain't coming here. We are young and rebuilding and the fact that we are 7-4 at this point of the year with meaningful games is just proof that we have the right GM and the right head coach and coaching staff. We are ahead of schedule and trending up.
I like OBJ and felt he was the most exciting player we have had since Shockey. I think the idea of him coming back would be fun. Just might now be the right move.
Initially I just wanted him for a Playoff run this year, but now it almost makes more sense as a multi-year deal. There is plenty of room here for a veteran inside/outside WR with good hands. He is admittedly a poor man's version of Diggs at this point, but I think he's a good fit in this O.
This is a fair take. The reason to sign OBJ is, yes, he can hopefully be a contributor next year, but you can get a similar contribution elsewhere and for less, and probably with less risk.
That risk and money is worth it if he can help this team make some noise down the stretch and maybe in the playoffs. I'm starting to think that is less and less likely a realistic scenario.
Overall for the right price I'm neutral on this because we need WR help so badly.
OBJ got paid the largest contract ever at the time, and he thanked Mara by saying immediately afterwards that he would like to play elsewhere. (paraphrasing).
As an owner, you just do not forget that.
I look at this visit as more of an olive branch on both sides than anything else. Get some closure and be on good terms going forward. I think both sides probably realized they screwed up.
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but much of that will disappear quickly if they extend Jones, Barkley, and Love. They can always create more space by extending Lawrence, Williams, and Jackson but I don' t love the idea of committing a somewhat high cap hit on a 30 year old WR with his injury history.
Depending on how this season plays out, if Giants make. Decision they can get my keep one of Barkley or Jones, I think they keep Jones
Tough to justify a second contract for a running back when there are so many good ones found n later rounds
Reason to franchise saquon unless
He may not want it but then u trade him for more than a 3rd rd comp ( might be a 4th rd comp depending on salary)
I look at this visit as more of an olive branch on both sides than anything else. Get some closure and be on good terms going forward. I think both sides probably realized they screwed up.
I actually look at it as a PR move for the Giants. Showing the fans they are "trying" to do whatever it takes to win this year knowing we have a depleted WR roster. There WOULD BE fans asking why the Giants will not even talk to him when they know the QB has little talent to throw to. They are just going through the motions.
That wasn’t entirely serious, btw
A certain base salary + so much for every game you suit up.
That said, I doubt he signs for Gallup money even with the injuries, especially with an all-in Bills and Dallas trying to make SB pushes.
This, otherwise pass.