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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2022 8:21 pm
Good game.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2022 8:24 pm : link
Love the Pat Patriot unis.
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joeinpa : 12/1/2022 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15928425 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Love the Pat Patriot unis.


Those are the original AFL unis, pretty sure.
Those helmets so much better than the modern Patriots  
Producer : 12/1/2022 8:46 pm : link
helmet. But the great Patriot dynasty was played in those crap helmets, so now we're stuck with them
Bills are much better  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/1/2022 9:09 pm : link
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RE: Bills are much better  
HomerJones45 : 12/1/2022 9:14 pm : link
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Bills have Allen and the Pats don’t.
Allen is just that much  
jvm52106 : 12/1/2022 9:16 pm : link
Better than most QB's. He will be to the QB draft of 2018 what Marino is to the QB draft of 1983..
Explain to me why  
cjac : 12/1/2022 9:21 pm : link
The Amazon broadcast sucks

I know it sucks as I’m watching it but I can’t put my finger on it.
shed a tackle and had a guy at his feet  
jmalls23 : 12/1/2022 9:21 pm : link
threw across his body for td. damn
Mac Jones is not very good  
terz22 : 12/1/2022 9:24 pm : link
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RE: Mac Jones is not very good  
Producer : 12/1/2022 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15928453 terz22 said:
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No he's not.
Allen and turnovers  
joeinpa : 12/1/2022 9:34 pm : link
Have become a problem this season
Hmm, I don't have a problem  
jvm52106 : 12/1/2022 9:42 pm : link
With the Amazon broadcast .
This game makes it seem the Pats are not in the Bills' class  
Producer : 12/1/2022 9:58 pm : link
what a shock [/s]
RE: Hmm, I don't have a problem  
JayBinQueens : 12/1/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15928463 jvm52106 said:
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With the Amazon broadcast .

Same - it's fine
Watching a guy like Stephenson  
gersh : 12/1/2022 10:09 pm : link
Makes you wonder how much do you need to pay your RB
At his best saquon may be the best
But all things considered, there’s at least 10 other guys who can be as productive. Maybe more
…..  
gersh : 12/1/2022 10:11 pm : link
4th rounder
Bobby Hart  
SJGiant : 12/1/2022 10:26 pm : link
At left tackle is terrible.
RE: Bobby Hart  
Giantsfan79 : 12/1/2022 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15928477 SJGiant said:
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At left tackle is terrible.


Beat me to the post. Dear God what where the Bills thinking?
RE: RE: Bobby Hart  
SJGiant : 12/1/2022 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15928478 Giantsfan79 said:
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At left tackle is terrible.



Beat me to the post. Dear God what where the Bills thinking?


I made a mistake. He is so bad that the bills are using it to their advantage.

The biggest difference with the Patriots team now  
Giantimistic : 12/1/2022 10:34 pm : link
And during their long reign is not Tom Brady. The biggest difference is that they are no longer gifted 5 to 6 wins a year from the AFC east.

All they had to do each year was win 4 or 5 non division games to get to 10 wins. They were also a good team but their division was awful for 20 years.
RE: Watching a guy like Stephenson  
Producer : 12/1/2022 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15928473 gersh said:
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Makes you wonder how much do you need to pay your RB
At his best saquon may be the best
But all things considered, there’s at least 10 other guys who can be as productive. Maybe more


Spending the 2nd pick of the draft on a RB is monumentally idiotic.
RE: The biggest difference with the Patriots team now  
Producer : 12/1/2022 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15928481 Giantimistic said:
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And during their long reign is not Tom Brady. The biggest difference is that they are no longer gifted 5 to 6 wins a year from the AFC east.

All they had to do each year was win 4 or 5 non division games to get to 10 wins. They were also a good team but their division was awful for 20 years.


Funny how that coincided with Brady's career with New England
Watching this dysfunctional Patriots  
jvm52106 : 12/1/2022 11:04 pm : link
Offense knowing both Patricia and Judge are coaching that side of the ball makes my heart happy.
so how many more years  
Giantsfan79 : 12/1/2022 11:06 pm : link
does BBI think BB has? I don't see him doing a bunch of losing seasons.
RE: RE: The biggest difference with the Patriots team now  
Ron Johnson : 12/1/2022 11:10 pm : link
In comment 15928484 Producer said:
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And during their long reign is not Tom Brady. The biggest difference is that they are no longer gifted 5 to 6 wins a year from the AFC east.

All they had to do each year was win 4 or 5 non division games to get to 10 wins. They were also a good team but their division was awful for 20 years.



Funny how that coincided with Brady's career with New England


Brady saw the handwriting on the wall and ran like a thief.
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Route 9 : 12/1/2022 11:24 pm : link
Ha. I keep forgetting these Thursday Night Football games are being played until I notice a final score posted somewhere.
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Route 9 : 12/1/2022 11:27 pm : link
Lol oh yeah that "bad division" argument. Haven't heard that one in years.

More importantly the Eagles last 2 Super Bowl appearances they went when the rest of the division was awful.

So many times in recent years a shit Eagle team got to collect two wins over shitty Giants teams.
RE: Allen is just that much  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/1/2022 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15928448 jvm52106 said:
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Better than most QB's. He will be to the QB draft of 2018 what Marino is to the QB draft of 1983..


I agree. He makes throws you just don't see any other QB making.
RE: The biggest difference with the Patriots team now  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/2/2022 7:47 am : link
In comment 15928481 Giantimistic said:
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And during their long reign is not Tom Brady. The biggest difference is that they are no longer gifted 5 to 6 wins a year from the AFC east.

All they had to do each year was win 4 or 5 non division games to get to 10 wins. They were also a good team but their division was awful for 20 years.


It certainly helped them. I also think they had the fortune of essentially putting out a upper tier OL just about every year and how that long time OL coach running it. BB has some strange set up right now. Both sons on the D staff. Patricia dual OC/OL coach.

The really big reason and Kraft spoke about this not to long ago were the poor drafts and how little they got from the 4 previous drafts and then the roster aging out. Brady saw the writing on the wall imv.
I still don't understand  
Costy16 : 12/2/2022 8:28 am : link
What Bill is doing with Patricia as the OC. He was his DC for years.
If any other HC ran out Patricia/Judge  
BigBlue7 : 12/2/2022 8:47 am : link
as joint OCs, they would have been fired already
RE: I still don't understand  
HomerJones45 : 12/2/2022 9:03 am : link
In comment 15928557 Costy16 said:
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What Bill is doing with Patricia as the OC. He was his DC for years.
He's trying to give him experience on the offensive side of the ball. Same with Judge.
RE: RE: Allen is just that much  
HomerJones45 : 12/2/2022 9:06 am : link
In comment 15928502 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Better than most QB's. He will be to the QB draft of 2018 what Marino is to the QB draft of 1983..



I agree. He makes throws you just don't see any other QB making.
Some BBI notables: "arm talent is overrated."
RE: Those helmets so much better than the modern Patriots  
Joe Beckwith : 12/2/2022 9:23 am : link
In comment 15928435 Producer said:
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helmet. But the great Patriot dynasty was played in those crap helmets, so now we're stuck with them


You mean The Flying Elvis?
+1.
I think those Pats uniforms  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/2/2022 9:25 am : link
were from the 1980's. Only thing missing was Jones having a big neck role on.
Listening to Cowherd’s podcast this morning  
Sean : 12/2/2022 9:30 am : link
He made a good point - when fans blame everything else for their QB not performing it’s a sign the QB isn’t the guy.

He pumped in Daniel Jones & Mac Jones in this category.
RE: RE: RE: Allen is just that much  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/2/2022 10:29 am : link
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Better than most QB's. He will be to the QB draft of 2018 what Marino is to the QB draft of 1983..



I agree. He makes throws you just don't see any other QB making.

Some BBI notables: "arm talent is overrated."


I guess the Giants should draft the best "arm talent (ed)" QB in the 2023 draft and call it a day. That should fix all the O issues.
RE: RE: I still don't understand  
Joe Beckwith : 12/2/2022 10:37 am : link
In comment 15928569 HomerJones45 said:
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What Bill is doing with Patricia as the OC. He was his DC for years.

He's trying to give him experience on the offensive side of the ball. Same with Judge.


Maybe BB is setting them up to battle for heir-apparent when he does move on, and with his kids there, the Krafts have multiple choices for HC, and the others can possibly stay or are now better trained to move on.
RE: RE: I still don't understand  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/2/2022 10:40 am : link
In comment 15928569 HomerJones45 said:
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What Bill is doing with Patricia as the OC. He was his DC for years.

He's trying to give him experience on the offensive side of the ball. Same with Judge.


It's good coaching that knows what the other side is trying to do and their reads and designing plays to take advantage of that, like prophylactic moves in chess, and so I thought Patricia as OC might be another good Belichik outside the box thinking move.

Boy was I wrong. Have no idea wtf he was thinking with Judge.
Judge was a QB  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/2/2022 10:45 am : link
and his father (who coached) was a long time high school coach. So its not like he has no familiarity with the position. Patricia came up on the offensive side (ass't OL coach) with the Pats before moving to defense.

BB has long brought in coaches and moved them all over at different coaching spots on both sides and special teams. BB himself started out on special teams.
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