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Any news on OBJ?

crooza172 : 12/1/2022 11:29 pm
I’m blown away by how quiet and secretive the giants have been with this visit given the media attention it has had. While Jerry is publicly licking the Beckham lolly pop, the giants have stay mostly quiet about and we haven’t heard a peep about today other than speculation.

Has anyone seen or heard any news of the visit? I’m guessing some people don’t want him but you are a different person when you get to your 30’s and have a child. It changes your perspective and I personally would love the signing given the state of our wr Corp and the sorry group of FAs in 2023.

Thoughts?
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From that list above  
AcesUp : 12/2/2022 11:12 am : link
I can see Parris Campbell being the head turning overpay next year. I don't want the Giants to be that team.
Eric on LI  
BillT : 12/2/2022 12:01 pm : link
“there is a chance he's still a productive player going forward”

A chance? So, you are going to spend guaranteed 2023 probably 2024 FA money on that chance. No one knows what he’ll be. How do you justify that. Just makes no sense to me. I get the FA pickings might be slim but spending on an unknown. ?
RE: Eric on LI  
riceneggs : 12/2/2022 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15928768 BillT said:
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“there is a chance he's still a productive player going forward”

A chance? So, you are going to spend guaranteed 2023 probably 2024 FA money on that chance. No one knows what he’ll be. How do you justify that. Just makes no sense to me. I get the FA pickings might be slim but spending on an unknown. ?


No team is going to give him a 2 year, 40 million fully guaranteed contract. Not sure why people think that

He'll get some guaranteed money and he'll have incentives built in.

There will be an injury clause as well
RE: RE: Eric on LI  
BillT : 12/2/2022 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15928787 riceneggs said:
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In comment 15928768 BillT said:


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“there is a chance he's still a productive player going forward”

A chance? So, you are going to spend guaranteed 2023 probably 2024 FA money on that chance. No one knows what he’ll be. How do you justify that. Just makes no sense to me. I get the FA pickings might be slim but spending on an unknown. ?



No team is going to give him a 2 year, 40 million fully guaranteed contract. Not sure why people think that

He'll get some guaranteed money and he'll have incentives built in.

There will be an injury clause as well

Well that’s interesting speculation but we’re still talking guaranteed money on some level (and I didn’t say 2y/40m). For me 0 guaranteed money sound about right for what we know about his condition which is also 0.
RE: Enough already  
kickoff : 12/2/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15928542 jc in c-ville said:
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OBJ was in the perfect situation last year with Kupp. He is nothing more than a possession WR at this point, 9 months removed from injury. He could care less about staying with a team for- multiple years. He is damaged goods living of his legacy and this is his farewell tour to secure as much money as possible. Stay away from him, please !!!

Agreed, stay away from the guy he could upset any progress made with this team so far.
RE: RE: this sounds like Beckham isn't going to be a factor this year  
Section331 : 12/2/2022 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15928697 djm said:
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Anyone expecting Beckham to play at all before January if at all this year is crazy. MAYBE he plays for a team by week 17 or 18. Slightly better odds he plays in January if his new team makes it there.

I think Beckham is more than capable to mentally prep for games if he's healthy enough. He's never been known to fail at playbook knowledge. If he's physically ready he will play late in the year, but it's going to take 2-3 weeks to ramp things up. It's already week 13. He aint playing in week 14-16 there's just no way.


It’s been reported that he’s been cleared to play. Now that may be smoke from his doctors, but the Giants could structure a multi-year deal that is only guaranteed if he is available to play in x number of remaining games.

Either way, the Giants have to make any deal on their terms. If Odell doesn’t agree, than move on.
If OBJ wants to play for NYG  
xtian : 12/2/2022 2:07 pm : link
then great, though I would be very surprised if he did. He would certainly upgrade out WR position. I have confidence that Schoen will not overpay.
RE: We desperately need receiver help  
Payasdaddy : 12/2/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15928584 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But I’d pass on OBJ. He’s 30 now coming off 2 ACLs, and an Achilles fracture. There’s no way he’ll be the same player again. We can’t look to our past for success.

Wtf is an achilles fracture? Think u meant ankle :)
RE: If OBJ wants to play for NYG  
Payasdaddy : 12/2/2022 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15928915 xtian said:
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then great, though I would be very surprised if he did. He would certainly upgrade out WR position. I have confidence that Schoen will not overpay.

He wouldnt be coming here if he had no interest
Money and timing with where we are as a team my not align but if he has matured he may think he has some unfinished business here
OBJ isn't going to upset anything  
djm : 12/2/2022 2:24 pm : link
my god some of you give a player way too much power or influence. OBJ might get hurt again. But that's the worst case scenario here. He isn't going to walk into the locker room and ruin anything.
RE: OBJ isn't going to upset anything  
Jim in Tampa : 12/2/2022 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15928932 djm said:
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my god some of you give a player way too much power or influence. OBJ might get hurt again. But that's the worst case scenario here. He isn't going to walk into the locker room and ruin anything.

Agreed.

I would even go as far to say that other than OBJ's Eli comment in his interview, he was a big-time positive influence in the locker room.

His teammates loved how hard OBJ played and how much he wanted to win.

Do fans rally think that mock-peeing like a dog in the endzone or hugging a kicking net ever upset any of his teammates?
We just got rid of one jackass...  
bw in dc : 12/2/2022 2:33 pm : link
in Toney.

Why would we bring in another one?
OB was traded because  
JonC : 12/2/2022 2:39 pm : link
was a walking distraction. You guys have short memories ...
RE: OB was traded because  
Larry in Pencilvania : 12/2/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15928945 JonC said:
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was a walking distraction. You guys have short memories ...


Shiny toy...oooooh so sparkly and ahhhhh
RE: OB was traded because  
riceneggs : 12/2/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15928945 JonC said:
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was a walking distraction. You guys have short memories ...


He was traded because he didn't want to be in NY at the time. Do you not remember the Josina interview?

The interview was a flash point  
JonC : 12/2/2022 2:56 pm : link
a public reason to trade him, but it wasn't the whole story.
And, don't you think not wanting to be in NY  
JonC : 12/2/2022 3:00 pm : link
was a distraction? Let's think ...
RE: And, don't you think not wanting to be in NY  
riceneggs : 12/2/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15928976 JonC said:
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was a distraction? Let's think ...


I thought you meant the kicking net stuff and boat trip

Anyway, I hope we sign him
None of that helped his case either  
JonC : 12/2/2022 3:07 pm : link
it's just the stuff the fans watching TV might focus on as core reasons.
Yes. NEWS ALERT: OBJ's still an attention-seeking butthead  
David B. : 12/2/2022 5:17 pm : link
Who wants a lot of money.

Unfortunately, he's 30 and has 2 ACLs, and is at best a #3 WR at this point.

Thanks for stopping by. Regards to Jerry.
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