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Giantsfan79 : 12/2/2022 9:04 am
4th place in my league, playing the 3rd place team. We are both 7-4.

My current QB is Jimmy G. He's at home against Miami this week which is a good match-up.

But I'm the asshole in my league that stashed Deshaun Watson a few weeks ago. He's playing the Texans in Houston.

Who scores more points this week, Jimmy G or Deshaun Watson?
why are  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2022 9:06 am : link
you an asshole for that? I only ask because I have Watson too and I think it was a smart FF move.

I think Watson > Jimmy G and if those were my options I'd start Watson.
I'd play Watson  
US1 Giants : 12/2/2022 9:13 am : link
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QB decision  
US1 Giants : 12/2/2022 9:17 am : link
I have Fields, Watson, and Lawrence. Lucky to find Lawrence on the waiver wire last week with Fields out. He was a good replacement for that one week.

Afraid to play Fields this week even if he does play. Watson is in his first week back. Which of the 3 has the highest floor for this week?
RE: QB decision  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2022 9:25 am : link
In comment 15928580 US1 Giants said:
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I have Fields, Watson, and Lawrence. Lucky to find Lawrence on the waiver wire last week with Fields out. He was a good replacement for that one week.

Afraid to play Fields this week even if he does play. Watson is in his first week back. Which of the 3 has the highest floor for this week?


Lawrence vs DET is enticing, but I'd probably go Watson, it's not like he's coming back from injury though he could be rusty.

RE: why are  
Giantsfan79 : 12/2/2022 9:34 am : link
In comment 15928572 pjcas18 said:
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you an asshole for that? I only ask because I have Watson too and I think it was a smart FF move.

I think Watson > Jimmy G and if those were my options I'd start Watson.


tongue in cheek. My buddies (who were likely eyeing him anyway) gave me some shit for being the first to grab him.
RE: why are  
RC in MD : 12/2/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15928572 pjcas18 said:
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you an asshole for that? I only ask because I have Watson too and I think it was a smart FF move.

I think Watson > Jimmy G and if those were my options I'd start Watson.


One of the managers in my league (a new guy) did the same. He drafted D.Watson in the 11th Round and had him stashed all season. However, you can't stash SUSPENDED player on your IR spot, so D.Watson had taken up one of his bench slot all season. Well, our playoff started this weekend, and this manager finished 11th out of 12, so he won't be able to reap the benefit of stashing him. However, since ours is also a Keeper and a Superflex league, being able to keep D.Watson in exchange for a 10th Round pick is a total steal come next season.
Your buddies only gave you shit  
Kmed6000 : 12/2/2022 9:55 am : link
because they wanted Watson and you beat them to it. If you grabbed him early, then good job because they were all waiting to pounce.

That being said, I'm starting Tua over him in 2 of my leagues. First off, I think Tua is a top notch QB and isn't getting the respect he deserves and secondly Watson hasn't played in about 2 years. I gotta see something first.

Although it wouldn't surprise me if he had a good game against Houston, but I just don't see a 30+ pt performance from a guy that hasn't played in 2 years.
OP  
allstarjim : 12/2/2022 12:06 pm : link
I don't love it. Do you think Watson has been able to establish chemistry with his receivers? Do you think in his first game the gameplan will be to throw a decent amount?

Yeah, I get it, Watson can run. That's cool. Watson hasn't played in an NFL game in TWO YEARS. I don't trust that.

I was going to ask what the rest of your roster looks like, but I still think you have to play Jimmy G.

I'm a little surprised some of you would roll with Deshaun right away, I just think that's very risky. As for Trevor Lawrence, he's playing Detroit, there's no matchup better. I'm playing Trevor Lawrence this week even over Tua. I understand this is unconventional, but I need big upside this week, and I think Lawrence has more against the league-worst passing defense than does Tua playing San Francisco at home in Santa Clara.

I'd play Jimmy G this week, I'd give Deshaun Watson at least 1 week to acclimate himself back to NFL game action.
In my situation  
allstarjim : 12/2/2022 12:18 pm : link
Where I'm playing Lawrence, I do need upside. I'm playing the #1 team in our league, it's loaded, and I have a couple of would-be starters on bye, including DeAndre Hopkins.

I also need a win. I'm 6-6, in 5th place, 4 teams make the playoffs, and the breakdown is this:

1st: 9-3
2nd: 8-4
3rd: 8-4
4th: 7-5

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5th: 6-6 ME

I also probably need to win a spot outright, because I had a miserable stretch and have a low point total, and am highly unlikely to win any tiebreaker scenarios. So I need to go 3-0 and get help. I do play the 3rd place team weeks 14 and 15. If he loses this week and I win, I control my own destiny.

In any scenario, it's probably necessary to win out to get in.

I need a drop candidate...Hayden Hurst or Curtis Samuel. My starting TE is Dalton Schultz.
I’d play Watson  
eric2425ny : 12/2/2022 12:36 pm : link
To be honest I’m a Josh Allen owner and stashed Watson on my bench a few weeks ago.

I seriously debated playing him over Allen this week because I didn’t like Allen’s odds of a big point game against NE last night. I have a feeling I’m going to regret my decision to start Allen this week after Watson drops 30+ on Sunday.
Can I ask you guys a lower stakes question?  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/2/2022 12:39 pm : link
AJ Dillon or Tyler Boyd for my final flex. Who ya got?
RE: I’d play Watson  
allstarjim : 12/2/2022 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15928813 eric2425ny said:
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To be honest I’m a Josh Allen owner and stashed Watson on my bench a few weeks ago.

I seriously debated playing him over Allen this week because I didn’t like Allen’s odds of a big point game against NE last night. I have a feeling I’m going to regret my decision to start Allen this week after Watson drops 30+ on Sunday.


I get that it's Houston and Watson is going to want to ball out. Don't get me wrong, as an Amari Cooper owner I want him to throw 4 TDs to Amari. I'm a little conservative on the outlook given the amount of time away, though.

Michael Carter is doubtful and I should have added Zonovan Knight. I didn't, I suck, and now I am hurting at flex. Probably going to go with Zay Jones.

Guys please give me some feedback on this flex decision, as again, this is absolute must-win time against my toughest matchup of the season.

Here are guys in my flex now:

Tyler Boyd at home vs Chiefs (Chase probably returning but likely on a pitch-count, Mixon might be out and Perine in)

Miles Sanders at home vs Titans (Sanders had a big week but Titans 3rd fewest points allowed to RBs in .5 PPR, and 2nd fewest in standard and Sanders doesn't catch passes anymore anyway.

To be honest, they've been pretty dominant against ball carriers since Saquon week 1 and have allowed 23.3% fewer production to RBs than the average for the season. Over last 5 weeks, 25% fewer. This seems like a hard avoid, here, but my alternatives:

Zay Jones @ Detroit

As I said, starting Trevor, potential high-scoring game, can stack this, Jones is questionable but I don't know why he wouldn't play.


Curtis Samuel @ Giants - No.

I think I have to go Boyd and Jones, right?
RE: Can I ask you guys a lower stakes question?  
allstarjim : 12/2/2022 12:55 pm : link
In comment 15928819 Mike in Long Beach said:
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AJ Dillon or Tyler Boyd for my final flex. Who ya got?


If Aaron Jones plays, it's Boyd. And I think Jones is playing.

I get the fear with Chase coming back, but I do think he's going to be limited, this game has a potential for Burrow and Mahomes to throw it a combined 100 times. We might see 10 TDs in this game, I'm not joking.

I don't see how you can get away from playing just about any fantasy asset playing in this game.

The Chiefs have allowed the most TDs to WRs in the NFL, they've allowed the 6th most fantasy points, and this is Burrow and this trio of receivers, they want to throw it, I think just roll with Boyd.
RE: RE: Can I ask you guys a lower stakes question?  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/2/2022 1:06 pm : link
In comment 15928839 allstarjim said:
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In comment 15928819 Mike in Long Beach said:


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AJ Dillon or Tyler Boyd for my final flex. Who ya got?



If Aaron Jones plays, it's Boyd. And I think Jones is playing.

I get the fear with Chase coming back, but I do think he's going to be limited, this game has a potential for Burrow and Mahomes to throw it a combined 100 times. We might see 10 TDs in this game, I'm not joking.

I don't see how you can get away from playing just about any fantasy asset playing in this game.

The Chiefs have allowed the most TDs to WRs in the NFL, they've allowed the 6th most fantasy points, and this is Burrow and this trio of receivers, they want to throw it, I think just roll with Boyd.


I think you just convinced me.
RE: RE: I’d play Watson  
US1 Giants : 12/2/2022 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15928835 allstarjim said:
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In comment 15928813 eric2425ny said:


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To be honest I’m a Josh Allen owner and stashed Watson on my bench a few weeks ago.

I seriously debated playing him over Allen this week because I didn’t like Allen’s odds of a big point game against NE last night. I have a feeling I’m going to regret my decision to start Allen this week after Watson drops 30+ on Sunday.



I get that it's Houston and Watson is going to want to ball out. Don't get me wrong, as an Amari Cooper owner I want him to throw 4 TDs to Amari. I'm a little conservative on the outlook given the amount of time away, though.

Michael Carter is doubtful and I should have added Zonovan Knight. I didn't, I suck, and now I am hurting at flex. Probably going to go with Zay Jones.

Guys please give me some feedback on this flex decision, as again, this is absolute must-win time against my toughest matchup of the season.

Here are guys in my flex now:

Tyler Boyd at home vs Chiefs (Chase probably returning but likely on a pitch-count, Mixon might be out and Perine in)

Miles Sanders at home vs Titans (Sanders had a big week but Titans 3rd fewest points allowed to RBs in .5 PPR, and 2nd fewest in standard and Sanders doesn't catch passes anymore anyway.

To be honest, they've been pretty dominant against ball carriers since Saquon week 1 and have allowed 23.3% fewer production to RBs than the average for the season. Over last 5 weeks, 25% fewer. This seems like a hard avoid, here, but my alternatives:

Zay Jones @ Detroit

As I said, starting Trevor, potential high-scoring game, can stack this, Jones is questionable but I don't know why he wouldn't play.


Curtis Samuel @ Giants - No.

I think I have to go Boyd and Jones, right?


I have given up on Boyd and dropped him for Lawrence when Fields got hurt. Boyd was my 5th WR and not going to play
RE: RE: RE: I’d play Watson  
allstarjim : 12/2/2022 1:21 pm : link
In comment 15928856 US1 Giants said:
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In comment 15928835 allstarjim said:


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In comment 15928813 eric2425ny said:


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To be honest I’m a Josh Allen owner and stashed Watson on my bench a few weeks ago.

I seriously debated playing him over Allen this week because I didn’t like Allen’s odds of a big point game against NE last night. I have a feeling I’m going to regret my decision to start Allen this week after Watson drops 30+ on Sunday.



I get that it's Houston and Watson is going to want to ball out. Don't get me wrong, as an Amari Cooper owner I want him to throw 4 TDs to Amari. I'm a little conservative on the outlook given the amount of time away, though.

Michael Carter is doubtful and I should have added Zonovan Knight. I didn't, I suck, and now I am hurting at flex. Probably going to go with Zay Jones.

Guys please give me some feedback on this flex decision, as again, this is absolute must-win time against my toughest matchup of the season.

Here are guys in my flex now:

Tyler Boyd at home vs Chiefs (Chase probably returning but likely on a pitch-count, Mixon might be out and Perine in)

Miles Sanders at home vs Titans (Sanders had a big week but Titans 3rd fewest points allowed to RBs in .5 PPR, and 2nd fewest in standard and Sanders doesn't catch passes anymore anyway.

To be honest, they've been pretty dominant against ball carriers since Saquon week 1 and have allowed 23.3% fewer production to RBs than the average for the season. Over last 5 weeks, 25% fewer. This seems like a hard avoid, here, but my alternatives:

Zay Jones @ Detroit

As I said, starting Trevor, potential high-scoring game, can stack this, Jones is questionable but I don't know why he wouldn't play.


Curtis Samuel @ Giants - No.

I think I have to go Boyd and Jones, right?



I have given up on Boyd and dropped him for Lawrence when Fields got hurt. Boyd was my 5th WR and not going to play


This is probably the last week I will play him, but this is the week to do it.

Home vs Buffalo week 17 still an outside possibility, but outside of that, it's this week and feel free to drop unless Chase or Higgins gets hurt again.
RE: why are  
djm : 12/2/2022 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15928572 pjcas18 said:
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you an asshole for that? I only ask because I have Watson too and I think it was a smart FF move.

I think Watson > Jimmy G and if those were my options I'd start Watson.


Same here. I own Watson in a keeper league and have since his rookie year. I've held on for this long couldn't give a fuck less what others think about it, lol. All is fair in love and war.

I'd start Watson. I am starting him over Geno Smith who has been more FF productive than Jimmy G.
and for anyone  
djm : 12/2/2022 2:28 pm : link
curious about how well QBs look in their best game back after being out for a year or more, the star QB typically looks like...the same star QB he was prior.

Start Watson unless you have a top 3-4 guy already starting.
I can’t defend my take about watson  
djm : 12/4/2022 10:04 pm : link
Because I said it and meant it, but I changed my mind and went with Geno. Thank heavens I did because I definitely lose. Now might win as long as Pittman doesn’t go off second half.

Woke up this morning and realized Geno has been doing it all year why fuck with that. I almost fucked my season up real good by going watson.
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