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| Michael Marino @MarinoMLB 33m As more teams convey interest to free agent CF Brandon Nimmo, the probability of a Mets return decreases. It’s still very possible he returns to the club, but his market is robust and it wouldn’t be shocking to see him get the AAV and years he was looking for elsewhere. |
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| Michael Marino @MarinoMLB 19m My understanding is bringing back Jacob DeGrom remains the Mets top priority. If it was up to them, they’d take Jake over JV/Rodon/Senga. Question remains if there’s another suitor that’s willing to match what Mets would pay him. Doubt exists that the other suitor is ATL/TBR/LAD. Michael Marino @MarinoMLB 19m The Rangers are believed to be better positioned to land free agent left hander Carlos Rodon, but as we know, these things are fluid and can change with one phone call. The Phillies have talked with Jake as well, but some uncertainty there too as to how in they really are. |
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MarinoMLB's avatar Michael Marino @MarinoMLB Replying to @AdamBabetski @realjoshgreen12 I don’t think they’d be able to get Rodon AND DeGrom if that’s what you’re asking. Senga and DeGrom is possible, but like I reported earlier, he’s garnering a ton of interest. |
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| Michael Marino @MarinoMLB Replying to @bulkypenguin47 @AdamBabetski @realjoshgreen12 Because they still want to add to bullpen and potentially add another bat. They are watching the Steve Cohen tax and are wary they may exceed it by too much…it’s a hefty tax. |
Nimmo is tricky. I've seen comparisons to the Ellsbury contract (i think maybe from rosenthal?) and I think he is similarly going to be a risky deal for a player who has had numerous injury issues, athleticism dependent, and moving to the wrong side of 30.
5 years 100m-120m you can swallow and hope to get 3 good years out of 5. If the deal ends up more like 7 years 150m though that's risky and nowhere near the upside of what JDG represents in 1 healthy year.
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I may be in the minority, but if I had to choose, I think I'd rather have Nimmo and get one of Rondon/JV/Senga. I love Jake, but given his age and recent injury history, I think the chance of him being a good ROI is slim.
Nimmo is tricky. I've seen comparisons to the Ellsbury contract (i think maybe from rosenthal?) and I think he is similarly going to be a risky deal for a player who has had numerous injury issues, athleticism dependent, and moving to the wrong side of 30.
5 years 100m-120m you can swallow and hope to get 3 good years out of 5. If the deal ends up more like 7 years 150m though that's risky and nowhere near the upside of what JDG represents in 1 healthy year.
For sure, Nimmo is a risk, too.
If Nimmo goes, they BETTER get Jake; losing both would be such a huge kick in the nuts, from a morale standpoint (not to mention talent)
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I may be in the minority, but if I had to choose, I think I'd rather have Nimmo and get one of Rondon/JV/Senga. I love Jake, but given his age and recent injury history, I think the chance of him being a good ROI is slim.
Nimmo is tricky. I've seen comparisons to the Ellsbury contract (i think maybe from rosenthal?) and I think he is similarly going to be a risky deal for a player who has had numerous injury issues, athleticism dependent, and moving to the wrong side of 30.
5 years 100m-120m you can swallow and hope to get 3 good years out of 5. If the deal ends up more like 7 years 150m though that's risky and nowhere near the upside of what JDG represents in 1 healthy year.
For sure, Nimmo is a risk, too.
If Nimmo goes, they BETTER get Jake; losing both would be such a huge kick in the nuts, from a morale standpoint (not to mention talent)
i can see the arguments all ways. diaz imo was the essential guy to bring back. but with JDG and Nimmo, there are a lot of ways you can spend 70m.
Senga, Rodon, Contreras as one example would be a pretty decent consolation.
but i do think they will get at least 1 of them back with JDG sounding more likely. and since he has as high of an upside as any player in MLB, i think that's the right call. healthy and in form in a postseason, he could be the guy that carries any team to a WS and with Buck and the existing roster I think it's likely they are in the postseason again.
generally agree because they have mcneil. moving him up to leadoff would be pretty much no drop off with the lineup so it's just finding a solid replacement who can play a good CF.
if the projections hold up for him at a 3 year deal around 20m i think he'll be one of the best values of the offseason.
does he have the JDG upside? obviously not. but he was reliable and i wouldn't be shocked at all if he ends up being very productive.
in a way sort of reminiscent of when Bartolo's reliability led him to leading the mets in wins from 2014-2016 with 44 even with all the higher upside guys around him we were all (rightfully) more excited about. sometimes slow and steady wins the race.
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a tweet from one of the Mets bloggers who said Bassitt is likely coming back to the Mets regardless of deGrom/JV/Rodon
if the projections hold up for him at a 3 year deal around 20m i think he'll be one of the best values of the offseason.
does he have the JDG upside? obviously not. but he was reliable and i wouldn't be shocked at all if he ends up being very productive.
in a way sort of reminiscent of when Bartolo's reliability led him to leading the mets in wins from 2014-2016 with 44 even with all the higher upside guys around him we were all (rightfully) more excited about. sometimes slow and steady wins the race.
I have no issue with Bassitt as the 3rd starter. I just got the sense he didn't want to be in NY, if he does, at those $$'s I'm all for it.
I’m a little surprised at that. Bassitt was very critical of Mets fans late in the year, so I got the sense he didn’t like NY very much. I have zero problem bringing him back.
Rodon also will cost a 2nd and 5th round pick, plus $1 million in int'l money I believe. I'd rather stick with Jake
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a tweet from one of the Mets bloggers who said Bassitt is likely coming back to the Mets regardless of deGrom/JV/Rodon
I’m a little surprised at that. Bassitt was very critical of Mets fans late in the year, so I got the sense he didn’t like NY very much. I have zero problem bringing him back.
Money talks, I guess. I thought for sure he was a goner after making those comments.
That would be good value at those numbers...
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a tweet from one of the Mets bloggers who said Bassitt is likely coming back to the Mets regardless of deGrom/JV/Rodon
I’m a little surprised at that. Bassitt was very critical of Mets fans late in the year, so I got the sense he didn’t like NY very much. I have zero problem bringing him back.
Same thoughts on him. Liked him as a #3, but surprised at the talk he is coming back. I thought for sure he was a goner because of those comments
2. the last 2 starts tainted the perception of the quality of his performance this year from the fan side. which is understandable. he crapped the bed in the only games that mattered.
if he doesn't eagerly want to come to the nym and isn't animated to prove he can come up big in big games, i think re #1 he's kind of a phony. but based on canha's comments that he knows he wants to come back i don't think that's the case.
re #2, i think those 2 starts probably did give the mets a little less urgency to prioritizing him. they may have other guys they'd rather spend money on (jdg obviously but maybe even a guy like senga who is younger and maybe higher upside) and he may get better money elsewhere so even if both sides want a reunion it may not fit. based on what we've heard the last week or so though it sounds like there's a better chance bassitt is back than nimmo.
It is such a long season and Max & deGrom didn't pitch all of it like Bassit did....so I may be all wrong.
However, it seemed like Max, deGrom & Bassit were pretty tight and if deGrom signs back with the Mets..maybe that will influence Bassit to as well.
It is such a long season and Max & deGrom didn't pitch all of it like Bassit did....so I may be all wrong.
However, it seemed like Max, deGrom & Bassit were pretty tight and if deGrom signs back with the Mets..maybe that will influence Bassit to as well.
i agree 100% that he liked being the big 3. in some ways hes closer to them than given credit for even though the talent level is obviously a different level. but at 50% of their cost and more reliable he's almost over-discounted.
Alvarez 10%
Mauricio 9.98%
Baty 9.3%
Vientos 9.2%
For reference, Alonso led the MLB roster at 9.8% and MLB league average is 7.7%. and that's before considering Mauricio also added 20 SB which may as well be XBH. Keep all 4 and if even just 2 pan out in the next few years it will be huge.
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The Tigres del Licey have an afternoon game today and Ronny Mauricio is already knocking the ball around:
1st at-bat: league-high 14th double
2nd at-bat: RBI triple
Mauricio’s updated OPS is a league-leading .892.