Herbie Teope
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Getting off the practice field just now. RB Jerick McKinnon (hamstring) back to work with his helmet. WR Kadarius Toney (hamstring) the only player missing.
doesn't mean we haven't moved on, or that we "care". It was a trade, and we often on this fanboard discuss how the trade is working out ... did we make the right move, did we hurt ourselves, did our GM get bamboozled, were we mistaken about him, etc. It's typical fan board stuff, not a pathology.
Look, some people were insistent that trading him was this huge error
And that he would suddenly turn into Jerry Rice for the Chiefs. Given that, yes, I'm going to laugh every time about Toney pulling the same bullshit in KC.
He's gone, move on. A lot of people complain they didn't want him here and then when he's gone keep bringing the guy up. Same shit happened with OBJ. This isn't directed at anyone specific, just a general observation.
Because the Giants are absolutely desperate for receivers and this guy forced his way off the team midseason. Weak sauce.
This 100%. We wasted a #1 pick on him. And then he did NOTHING here and half assed it the whole way. He never seemed to give a shit. So yes, screw him.
Because the Giants are absolutely desperate for receivers and this guy forced his way off the team midseason. Weak sauce.
This 100%. We wasted a #1 pick on him. And then he did NOTHING here and half assed it the whole way. He never seemed to give a shit. So yes, screw him.
I think he wants work life balance like Tom Brady.
That there are still a few posters showing up to defend Toney on this and the other Toney injury update threads. Why do you some of you feel a sense of protection towards him
The prior regime screwed the situation up from the start. I also find it funny that there were a group on here screaming how could they dump a first round pick when they are dying for WRs. I think that the fact they dumped him and he still can't stay healthy shows on Toney not the current Giants FO
When a guy pulls a hammy, it’s one of those injuries that are always obvious. Some guys hop, some guys sorta limp a little, others grab at it. But it’s almost always obvious the exact moment it happens.
Also, depending on the severity from cramp to a pull to a full tear, guys miss a game to a month.
Yet with Toney, he’s had how many hamstring injuries so far? And I can’t recall more than once seeing him and saying “yup, that’s a hammy”. AND he’s always out for way longer than most are for the same injury…
When a guy pulls a hammy, it’s one of those injuries that are always obvious. Some guys hop, some guys sorta limp a little, others grab at it. But it’s almost always obvious the exact moment it happens.
Also, depending on the severity from cramp to a pull to a full tear, guys miss a game to a month.
Yet with Toney, he’s had how many hamstring injuries so far? And I can’t recall more than once seeing him and saying “yup, that’s a hammy”. AND he’s always out for way longer than most are for the same injury…
Just…. Oddd. Isn’t it?
I mean, the last hammy injury he had with the Giants he apparently got during a walk through practice. Allegedly. Tells you all you need to know about that guy…
What grabbed my attention is that Toney is the ONLY
Have in common? Two groups who just don’t get that th rest of us don’t care what you do but can not give the same courtesy. Don’t open the thread. W and the. To post to tell others to move on? Lol. Then again maybe they are vegans and KT fans. Would explain a lot.
I think reading the word HAMstring might trigger them.
He's gone, move on. A lot of people complain they didn't want him here and then when he's gone keep bringing the guy up. Same shit happened with OBJ. This isn't directed at anyone specific, just a general observation.
This^^^.
Toney was an absolute turd who gave two shits about football. He's been gone for months. Ostensibly, he's been gone even longer than the trade. I don't get why people care about a player who most likely won't be in the league within 2 years. Good riddance.
If you don't get it, maybe that's a you thing. It's not for lack of explanation. Most are quite willing to explain why, and do.
player missing practice for KC this week. And then look at our injury report. Depressing.
There's that scatterplot of NFL team injuries where the Giants are an outlier all by their lonesome on the the far right of the graph. The only place I've seen an outlier like that was a scatterplot that proved a player was cheating at online poker because their winning was such an outlier - the player was an employee computer progammer at the online poker company.
I think every one of our draft picks this year missed significant time this year? Yeesh.
RE: If you don't think coverage of a traded 1st round pick
Have in common? Two groups who just don’t get that th rest of us don’t care what you do but can not give the same courtesy. Don’t open the thread. W and the. To post to tell others to move on? Lol. Then again maybe they are vegans and KT fans. Would explain a lot.
I think reading the word HAMstring might trigger them.
He's gone, move on. A lot of people complain they didn't want him here and then when he's gone keep bringing the guy up. Same shit happened with OBJ. This isn't directed at anyone specific, just a general observation.
I defended him (somewhat) and thought he might still contribute.
When he played, he played hard.
But I knew the trade made sense and its even more apparent now
Very strange kid
He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
RE: the word on the inside is that he is not good at the rehab process
To practice/play? And this is now after he was traded to maybe the best possible situation for him. It’s truly mystifying how this kid is thumbing his nose at an opportunity millions would kill for.
He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
RE: RE: If you look back at Sy’s pre-draft write-up
He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
Ok, what was it, then?
RE: RE: RE: RE: If you look back at Sy’s pre-draft write-up
He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
Ok, what was it, then?
The Giants had a tier of names that they were going to draft at #20 but they were all taken before their pick. So they defaulted to adding a playmaking WR to help Jones (which was always an offseason goal stated by Mara/DG anyway). Toney got pulled up on to be the pick amongst several available WRs. It wasn't a Judge or a DG pick, it was the consensus of them all.
The video of DG pacing around the war room and Judge looking at him oddly was during round 2 the next evening. And it was likely due to them trading down once again and DG being unnerved in that strategy as names of guys on their board being taken in front of them for the second straight round. It's not in his DNA to trade down and what you saw was how he reacted when pursuing/agreeing to such a strategy finally in a draft.
What is the over/under for when KC flushes this turd ???
I think all of Toney's "injuries" were soft tissue injuries?
I'm salty over it. I care.
Don’t be sore just because fans criticize your former employer
This 100%. We wasted a #1 pick on him. And then he did NOTHING here and half assed it the whole way. He never seemed to give a shit. So yes, screw him.
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for the owner of the forum to be a shit stirring poster? I understand that it drives traffic, but I still don’t think it’s necessary.
Don’t be sore just because fans criticize your former employer
Shhhhh
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Because the Giants are absolutely desperate for receivers and this guy forced his way off the team midseason. Weak sauce.
This 100%. We wasted a #1 pick on him. And then he did NOTHING here and half assed it the whole way. He never seemed to give a shit. So yes, screw him.
I think he wants work life balance like Tom Brady.
Like Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Also, depending on the severity from cramp to a pull to a full tear, guys miss a game to a month.
Yet with Toney, he’s had how many hamstring injuries so far? And I can’t recall more than once seeing him and saying “yup, that’s a hammy”. AND he’s always out for way longer than most are for the same injury…
Just…. Oddd. Isn’t it?
Also, depending on the severity from cramp to a pull to a full tear, guys miss a game to a month.
Yet with Toney, he’s had how many hamstring injuries so far? And I can’t recall more than once seeing him and saying “yup, that’s a hammy”. AND he’s always out for way longer than most are for the same injury…
Just…. Oddd. Isn’t it?
I mean, the last hammy injury he had with the Giants he apparently got during a walk through practice. Allegedly. Tells you all you need to know about that guy…
I think reading the word HAMstring might trigger them.
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He's gone, move on. A lot of people complain they didn't want him here and then when he's gone keep bringing the guy up. Same shit happened with OBJ. This isn't directed at anyone specific, just a general observation.
This^^^.
Toney was an absolute turd who gave two shits about football. He's been gone for months. Ostensibly, he's been gone even longer than the trade. I don't get why people care about a player who most likely won't be in the league within 2 years. Good riddance.
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for the owner of the forum to be a shit stirring poster? I understand that it drives traffic, but I still don’t think it’s necessary.
Don’t be sore just because fans criticize your former employer
Shhhhh
lololololololol dat shit be lame to me......
There's that scatterplot of NFL team injuries where the Giants are an outlier all by their lonesome on the the far right of the graph. The only place I've seen an outlier like that was a scatterplot that proved a player was cheating at online poker because their winning was such an outlier - the player was an employee computer progammer at the online poker company.
I think every one of our draft picks this year missed significant time this year? Yeesh.
Succinctly and well stated.
I think reading the word HAMstring might trigger them.
Because it's funny.
Don't cry, okay?
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in the same season is relevant to football discussion and the Giants - I really don't know why you'd be a member of a forum such as this.
Succinctly and well stated.
I just feel badly for those who feel like they’re forced to read the thread and post on it even though they claim not to care
Thoughts and prayers
When he played, he played hard.
But I knew the trade made sense and its even more apparent now
Very strange kid
at this rate hes not going to make it to his contract year.
Nothing forcing you to patronize his website.
shocking!
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
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He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
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He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
Ok, what was it, then?
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In comment 15940804 gersh said:
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He mentioned there were red flags. He was more diplomatic about it after the Giants drafted him, but clearly there was intel about Toney being a risk. That the Giants (Gettleman) drafted him after the deandre baker fiasco is even more perplexing.
I believe that I read the DG did not want Toney and this pick was totally Judge. The video of DG pacing angrily is just before the pick IIRC. I think DG want one of the oline.
No, that's not what occurred.
Just an item that is rumored/repeated on this site often enough that it becomes fact.
Ok, what was it, then?
The Giants had a tier of names that they were going to draft at #20 but they were all taken before their pick. So they defaulted to adding a playmaking WR to help Jones (which was always an offseason goal stated by Mara/DG anyway). Toney got pulled up on to be the pick amongst several available WRs. It wasn't a Judge or a DG pick, it was the consensus of them all.
The video of DG pacing around the war room and Judge looking at him oddly was during round 2 the next evening. And it was likely due to them trading down once again and DG being unnerved in that strategy as names of guys on their board being taken in front of them for the second straight round. It's not in his DNA to trade down and what you saw was how he reacted when pursuing/agreeing to such a strategy finally in a draft.