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| Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 2m BREAKING: Right-hander Jacob deGrom has signed a five-year, $185 million contract with the Texas Rangers, sources tell ESPN. Physical is passed. Deal is done. Includes conditional sixth-year option that would take total deal to $222 million. Full no-trade clause. A massive haul. Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 2m Last year, the Rangers started their rebuild by committing $500 million to Corey Seager and Marcus Semien. Now, they’ll build their pitching staff around Jacob deGrom, whose five-year, $185 million deal has no deferrals. Between that and no state tax, the money is enormous. Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 2m In Jacob deGrom, the Rangers get the most talented pitcher in the world. They are also placing an enormous bet on his health, signing the 34-year-old to a five-year deal at $37 million a season. The Rangers saw the reward for the two-time Cy Young winner well worth the risk. @JeffPassan The question for the New York Mets is now: How do they replace deGrom? Is it Carlos Rodón? Justin Verlander? They’ve pursued all of the top pitchers, including Kodai Senga and Chris Bassitt. The ~$40 million a year earmarked for deGrom can go a lot of different places. |
While factually accurate it's such a disingenuous statement..
1st year was Covid, he made every start and was one rough start away from a Cy Young
Then he missed 1 calendar year of baseball from July to July. If he has missed one full season instead the narrative would be so different.
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Per @martinonyc, the Mets are looking to acquire two starting pitchers in each of these two categories:
Aces: Justin Verlander, Carlos Rodón
Mid-rotation: Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, Ross Stripling, Jose Quintana, Kodai Senga
bassitt is kind of a tweener of those 2 groups so will be interesting to see what happens with him. I'd have personally tried to get him signed and dumped Carrabba's $ because I think he's a full step above Carrasco and the price difference would have been worth it.
2 starting pitchers in each category?? Does he mean 1 from each??
I'd of course prefer 2 from each...that's what they actually need. But I don't think it will happen.
If he signed the same contract with Mets, he would pay about 27 million more in state and city taxes over the life of the contract.
Mets would have had to offer around 5/215 to make the offers comparable and that's not even factoring in the higher cost of living in NY.
If there is a non-monetary factor, it's probably the direction the city has taken. But even then, he would be a Met if Stevie offered an amount that exceeded the Rangers, factoring in taxes but that obviously wasn't happening.
it's kind of hard to then argue against adding an extra 45m total more for 2 extra years.
and the longer contract would have actually lowered the AAV for lux tax purposes.
as we've learned with cespedes and wright, in the event of catastrophic injury the contract is insured. so the main risk of extra years is ineffectiveness more than injury, which is hard to imagine with JDG when he's throwing so hard they were trying to get him to throw easier to preserve his arm. if aging slows him down naturally, we know he can be effective 4-5 mph slower because that's what he was from basically 2014-2017.
so im not sure i buy that the mets wouldn't have matched the deal he got. so it really does seem a lot like syndergaard where jdg just wanted to leave even though he's going to a team that's likely less of a contender and didnt even give them a chance. between harvey's career getting torpedo'd by injury and the old regime kicking wheeler on the way out, maybe the well was just too far tainted to the point where they didn't even try to leverage more cash out of cohen then they got?
If he signed the same contract with Mets, he would pay about 27 million more in state and city taxes over the life of the contract.
Mets would have had to offer around 5/215 to make the offers comparable and that's not even factoring in the higher cost of living in NY.
If there is a non-monetary factor, it's probably the direction the city has taken. But even then, he would be a Met if Stevie offered an amount that exceeded the Rangers, factoring in taxes but that obviously wasn't happening.
if it was the money why not engage the mets before the deal was done and get some bidding?
the mets offer was reportedly 3 years 120m so while i agree they'd have had to go above texas to match the post-tax, i don't think it's as extreme as your suggesting because of the travel. JDG is going to play a lot of games against LAA and Oak getting taxed close to nyc.
I have a felling he would have made a lot more starts last year if he had financial security. I think once Mets did not give him a contract, he made a business decision not to push it.
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Per @martinonyc, the Mets are looking to acquire two starting pitchers in each of these two categories:
Aces: Justin Verlander, Carlos Rodón
Mid-rotation: Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, Ross Stripling, Jose Quintana, Kodai Senga
bassitt is kind of a tweener of those 2 groups so will be interesting to see what happens with him. I'd have personally tried to get him signed and dumped Carrabba's $ because I think he's a full step above Carrasco and the price difference would have been worth it.
2 starting pitchers in each category?? Does he mean 1 from each??
I'd of course prefer 2 from each...that's what they actually need. But I don't think it will happen.
i think they meant 1 from each. they already have Max/Carrasco so they aren't paying 6 SP 10m+.
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I don't buy he did not want to be here and instead wanted to move to Arlington to play for 70 win team.
If he signed the same contract with Mets, he would pay about 27 million more in state and city taxes over the life of the contract.
Mets would have had to offer around 5/215 to make the offers comparable and that's not even factoring in the higher cost of living in NY.
If there is a non-monetary factor, it's probably the direction the city has taken. But even then, he would be a Met if Stevie offered an amount that exceeded the Rangers, factoring in taxes but that obviously wasn't happening.
if it was the money why not engage the mets before the deal was done and get some bidding?
the mets offer was reportedly 3 years 120m so while i agree they'd have had to go above texas to match the post-tax, i don't think it's as extreme as your suggesting because of the travel. JDG is going to play a lot of games against LAA and Oak getting taxed close to nyc.
I did not factor in property taxes and cost of living, so I don't think 27 million is an overestimate. Now Texas has some other taxes but overall i think it is ballpark accurate to say the deal is worth 5 million more per season in Texas.
I do think Jake is a family man and probably somewhat conservative. So maybe he prefers Texas. But he was going to whoever paid the most.
Mets can't afford the risk of a five year deal
The idea that Jake could miss a large part of the season and come back and dominate proved false. Last five starts (including playoffs), he was not the Jake of old. 7 HRs allowed in 5 games.
Now they can get two starters to pair with Max, Carrasco, and DP.
And allows them to move Megill to pen.
Mets can't afford the risk of a five year deal
The idea that Jake could miss a large part of the season and come back and dominate proved false. Last five starts (including playoffs), he was not the Jake of old. 7 HRs allowed in 5 games.
Now they can get two starters to pair with Max, Carrasco, and DP.
And allows them to move Megill to pen.
DeGrom is not going to be again the best pitcher in baseball. Heck he isn’t even in top 10-15 anymore and it was somewhat debatable his last Cy Young win in NL 3 yrs ago whether he won more on previous rep from his prior years. Mets have a hole in their rotation but this was a really lucky escape for the Mets frankly and I think Met fans per usual are getting a little too sentimental which I respect. I’m glad he didn’t come back even on a 3 yr deal after seeing how terribly the Wright deal ended and caused various issues.
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Per @martinonyc, the Mets are looking to acquire two starting pitchers in each of these two categories:
Aces: Justin Verlander, Carlos Rodón
Mid-rotation: Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, Ross Stripling, Jose Quintana, Kodai Senga
bassitt is kind of a tweener of those 2 groups so will be interesting to see what happens with him. I'd have personally tried to get him signed and dumped Carrabba's $ because I think he's a full step above Carrasco and the price difference would have been worth it.
2 starting pitchers in each category?? Does he mean 1 from each??
I'd of course prefer 2 from each...that's what they actually need. But I don't think it will happen.
i think they meant 1 from each. they already have Max/Carrasco so they aren't paying 6 SP 10m+.
Yes I agree... just poor writing
I just don't think its enough.
I know it's only December 3rd but I just don't see how the Mets will be able to go into 2023 with a better roster on paper than they had going into 2022...
Meanwhile, the Phillies are going to add a superstar and the Braves starting roster just got naturally better with rookies turning into stars.
I suppose the Mets have to hope that a couple of Alvarez, Baty, Vientos, and Mauricio can do what Michael Harris and Vaughn Grissom did for the Braves... but Mets have no Spencer Strider waiting in the wings.
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SNY Mets @SNY_Mets
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Per @martinonyc, the Mets are looking to acquire two starting pitchers in each of these two categories:
Aces: Justin Verlander, Carlos Rodón
Mid-rotation: Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, Ross Stripling, Jose Quintana, Kodai Senga
bassitt is kind of a tweener of those 2 groups so will be interesting to see what happens with him. I'd have personally tried to get him signed and dumped Carrabba's $ because I think he's a full step above Carrasco and the price difference would have been worth it.
2 starting pitchers in each category?? Does he mean 1 from each??
I'd of course prefer 2 from each...that's what they actually need. But I don't think it will happen.
i think they meant 1 from each. they already have Max/Carrasco so they aren't paying 6 SP 10m+.
Yes I agree... just poor writing
I just don't think its enough.
I know it's only December 3rd but I just don't see how the Mets will be able to go into 2023 with a better roster on paper than they had going into 2022...
Meanwhile, the Phillies are going to add a superstar and the Braves starting roster just got naturally better with rookies turning into stars.
I suppose the Mets have to hope that a couple of Alvarez, Baty, Vientos, and Mauricio can do what Michael Harris and Vaughn Grissom did for the Braves... but Mets have no Spencer Strider waiting in the wings.
Can’t really buy your way into success in modern MLB. Mets fans need to hope they nail the revitalization of the system/minors.
Really hope they can turn into huge plays in the International market. Would be great use of Cohens money.
It's very similar to what the Dodgers did prior to their run.
With Max FA next year and no real pitching prospect in sight this might be the last year they try to salvage the current roster.
Before you say Diaz, you can always move a elite closer mid season....
Or am I crazy to think this?
Estas MUCHO loco.
last year all of Baty, Mauricio, Alvarez, and Vientos were among the leaders in extra base hits at AA and up. All hit extra base hits at a higher rate than anyone on the mets except Alonso.
when Baty, Alvarez, and Vientos got called up, even in their small samples their exit velocity numbers were each the highest on the team.
counting his current run in the winter leagues, Mauricio has more extra base hits in his last 161 games than all but a few MLB players - Austin Riley led the NL with 79 last year, Mauricio has 75, and that obviously doesn't count his 28 SBs most of which are effectively turning 1b --> 2b.
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In 161 games this year (AA / DOWL), Mauricio has 40 2B, 5 3B, and 30 HR, along with 28/41 SB.
A nominal improvement in his plate discipline could turn this kid into a star.
lindor (29), alonso (27), mcneil (30) are part of the present and hopefully the future as well. there is no excuse to not get the latter 2 extended this offseason. if the organization made a mistake with degrom it was probably not tearing up his contract first thing when cohen took over to make him a met for life when they had the leverage. same with not getting nimmo extended before he changed to boras.
but as good as that group of homegrown guys was here the future of this organization is this next crop of minor leaguers, and this next group is by far the most promising group they've produced.
$37 Million a year so they can pull him after he gives up his first hit of the game in the sixth inning.
Next interesting watch is Nimmo but again if years and money are really high he can walk too. He’s had a real small sample size of success and I don’t believe in his defense holding up nor offensive consistency over a 5 yr period. Mets are going to pay Alonso on long term and Mets can’t keep loading anchor contracts no matter how much money Cohen has.
Eppler has his work cut out for him on both ML level (there’s bullpen needs too) and the minors as I don’t like his track record with Angels in that regard.
last year all of Baty, Mauricio, Alvarez, and Vientos were among the leaders in extra base hits at AA and up. All hit extra base hits at a higher rate than anyone on the mets except Alonso.
when Baty, Alvarez, and Vientos got called up, even in their small samples their exit velocity numbers were each the highest on the team.
counting his current run in the winter leagues, Mauricio has more extra base hits in his last 161 games than all but a few MLB players - Austin Riley led the NL with 79 last year, Mauricio has 75, and that obviously doesn't count his 28 SBs most of which are effectively turning 1b --> 2b.
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In 161 games this year (AA / DOWL), Mauricio has 40 2B, 5 3B, and 30 HR, along with 28/41 SB.
A nominal improvement in his plate discipline could turn this kid into a star.
lindor (29), alonso (27), mcneil (30) are part of the present and hopefully the future as well. there is no excuse to not get the latter 2 extended this offseason. if the organization made a mistake with degrom it was probably not tearing up his contract first thing when cohen took over to make him a met for life when they had the leverage. same with not getting nimmo extended before he changed to boras.
but as good as that group of homegrown guys was here the future of this organization is this next crop of minor leaguers, and this next group is by far the most promising group they've produced.
this is why - and I get it - this concept seems bizarre to most fans and they gasp and say I'm crazy or whatever - but this is why you trade Alonso now, before he needs an extension.
Yes, his bat is prodigious. But he is the most replaceable of any star and he is how you fill the pitching void.
If you can flip Alonso for someone's Spencer Strider and fill the Alonso void with a low cost option like Vientos or Baty for example defense is probably a wash at worst and even if you come up a little short on the offense (questionable) you can likely survive and then you can put that Alonso money into pitching and the team is more balanced, younger, and built more long-term.
Seems like these guys - Baty and Vientos specifically have defense concerns and Mauricio is likely moving off SS to either another IF position or I guess an OF spot, but point is 1B can become a logjam and that doesn't even consider it would be good for Alvarez to get some reps there to keep his bat in games if he needs to be lifted for late game defense behind the plate and you want someone else at DH.
Anyway, I know it's bizarre to most people and it's not that I don't value Pete - I do, I just think what he brings is replaceable at a good enough level it would help the team long-term.
buster doesn't have the best track record, but chris young running things like a pitcher and who knows maybe this was something they talked about with jdg? mccann did have a reputation of some SP really liking throwing to him.
@Buster_ESPN
As the Rangers look to build around Jacob deGrom, they could explore a deal with the Mets for James McCann, a veteran catcher widely known to be available. McCann is owed $24 million over the next two years, and the Mets could shed at least some of that salary.
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James McCann has caught 12 of deGrom's starts, 75 2/3 innings, and in that time, deGrom has a 1.67 ERA, with 114 strikeouts and 9 walks. You could look it up.
i assume the mets would give him away for basically any savings they can get.
and from the met side, i think pitchers are so much riskier assets health wise even if you got offered an equivalent one it's still risky.
i am a believer in lineup quality lifting everyone in that lineup, and alonso's bat in the lineup is going to help everyone around him - especially baty/alvarez/vientos/etc as they break in.
but if the brewers firesale is legit and lets say there was a 3 team deal out there where alonso goes to team 3, prospects go to milwaukee, and corbin burnes comes to the mets you have to consider it. though ultimately id rather just give up 1 or 2 of the top 6 prospects than alonso and make that a 2 team trade. or better just sign verlander for 2 or 3 years and give up nothing except cohen cash.
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Rangers might want to trade for McCann apparently. Yes please!!!
buster doesn't have the best track record, but chris young running things like a pitcher and who knows maybe this was something they talked about with jdg? mccann did have a reputation of some SP really liking throwing to him.
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As the Rangers look to build around Jacob deGrom, they could explore a deal with the Mets for James McCann, a veteran catcher widely known to be available. McCann is owed $24 million over the next two years, and the Mets could shed at least some of that salary.
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James McCann has caught 12 of deGrom's starts, 75 2/3 innings, and in that time, deGrom has a 1.67 ERA, with 114 strikeouts and 9 walks. You could look it up.
i assume the mets would give him away for basically any savings they can get.
LOL. Man, Mets should jump all over that right away.
If an aging Beltran could get Wheeler back from a team making a post-season push, who knows maybe Alonso gets back a 23-year old up-and-coming pitching prospect, cost controlled for the next 6 years (IOW some other team's Spencer Strider).
doesn't have to be that exact trade, but something like that.
I know its unpopular but I think it makes sense.
as it happens value wise whatever alonso's 2 years of control returns (an olsen type package) should actually be pretty close to whatever Burnes' 2 years of control return. so that seems a very realistic hypothetical. Burnes is projected to get 11m in arb so it's not even crazy to think the brewers might consider a straight swap since it's close to even salary.
but ultimately if that deal were offered id pass because id rather give alonso an olsen extension, and then either trade that type of prospect package for burnes or sign a FA and keep the prospects. Rodon has been almost as good the last 2 years and he's just 2 years older. verlander is probably an even bet to match him in the next 2 years even though he'll be more expensive.
unless there is something they dont like about alonso in the clubhouse, or he's unwilling to be reasonable to extend, i just dont see any reason to trade alonso now. at midseason if vientos, alvarez, and baty are all mashing and they need to find more playing time and alonso still hasn't extended, then it becomes a lot more palatable.
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outside of Lindor and maybe extension to Alonso or McNeil. Mets are close to a sell/rebuild.
It's very similar to what the Dodgers did prior to their run.
With Max FA next year and no real pitching prospect in sight this might be the last year they try to salvage the current roster.
Before you say Diaz, you can always move a elite closer mid season....
Or am I crazy to think this?
you are crazy. they had 5 guys get mvp votes last year, 4 are under 30, 4 made the all star game, and none of them were jdg. that 20% of the roster is still under contract for at least 2 years and doesnt even include scherzer. if they pivot and sign verlander he'd be #6.
they need young talent but their top 6 hitting prospects can hang with anyones top 6 and all could be at AA or higher next year.
I get that and Ill retract my statement but I based it on pitching. We really don't have a stud prospect coming up at this time and you need 2 of them to be playoff caliber.
If an aging Beltran could get Wheeler back from a team making a post-season push, who knows maybe Alonso gets back a 23-year old up-and-coming pitching prospect, cost controlled for the next 6 years (IOW some other team's Spencer Strider).
doesn't have to be that exact trade, but something like that.
I know its unpopular but I think it makes sense.
Alonso is not getting the best picture prospect in baseball. Balt doesn't want to pay anyone either. Sorry but it's a bad idea.
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NEWS: According to @martinonyc
, the #Mets are determined to sign either Justin Verlander or Carlos Rodon.
Additionally, they will acquire a mid-rotation starter. "Some of the main options in that category are Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, and Jose Quintana." #LGM
- 5th in CY voting in 2021 (132 innings, 2.37 era, 2.65 fip, 185 k's, 36 walks, 13 homers allowed)
- 6th in CY voting in 2022 (178 innings, 2.88 era, 2.25 fip, 237 k's, 52 walks, 12 homers allowed)
Verlander, entering age 40 season, projected contract 3x120m (mlbtr)
- won CY in 2019 (223 innings, 2.58 era, 3.27 fip, 300 k's, 42 walks, 36 homers allowed)
- won CY in 2022 (175 innings, 1.75 era, 2.49 fip, 185 k's, 29 walks, 12 homers allowed)
(out 2020/2021 TJS)
Rodon costs a pick so while the youth and lower AAV is appealing, the short term upside, pedigree, and future assets probably favor Verlander. both come with durability risks.
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NEWS: According to @martinonyc
, the #Mets are determined to sign either Justin Verlander or Carlos Rodon.
Additionally, they will acquire a mid-rotation starter. "Some of the main options in that category are Andrew Heaney, Kyle Gibson, Taijuan Walker, and Jose Quintana." #LGM
How are they putting Kyle Gibson in same category with those guys?? He can't hold Walkers jockstrap..
I'd rather have Thor back over Kyle freaking Gibson
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pretty sure that's the best top 5 in baseball and you have DH, C, 3B, and 1 OF spot basically open for Baty, Vientos, Alvarez, Mauricio to transition in over the next couple years.
- 5th in CY voting in 2021 (132 innings, 2.37 era, 2.65 fip, 185 k's, 36 walks, 13 homers allowed)
- 6th in CY voting in 2022 (178 innings, 2.88 era, 2.25 fip, 237 k's, 52 walks, 12 homers allowed)
Verlander, entering age 40 season, projected contract 3x120m (mlbtr)
- won CY in 2019 (223 innings, 2.58 era, 3.27 fip, 300 k's, 42 walks, 36 homers allowed)
- won CY in 2022 (175 innings, 1.75 era, 2.49 fip, 185 k's, 29 walks, 12 homers allowed)
(out 2020/2021 TJS)
Rodon costs a pick so while the youth and lower AAV is appealing, the short term upside, pedigree, and future assets probably favor Verlander. both come with durability risks.
Neither ideal... I think it's a coin toss. I guess go with whoever has better numbers vs Phillies and Braves players?
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pretty sure that's the best top 5 in baseball and you have DH, C, 3B, and 1 OF spot basically open for Baty, Vientos, Alvarez, Mauricio to transition in over the next couple years.
Yes I'm down with that... Then work the trade market mid season for starting pitching if needed
So maybe a 2-year deal for Verlander.
then it has to be a youth movement of some type if your top 2 SPs are over 40.
I still feel like though they need another mid-level starter even if they add Verlander and Walker. Plus with 2 starters 40 years old or greater, the 6th - 8th starters IMO take on even more importance than normal (and those #6 - #8 starting pitchers are unfortunately always important)
.284 avg (would be behind only mcneil, marte)
.394 obp (highest on mets)
.583 slg (highest on mets)
+61 DRS in the OF
entering his age 31 but bc he's a freak at 6'7 282 you have to think maybe he could continue to hit for a long time. in the last 6 years his lowest season RC was 140. Manny and Ortiz hit into their late 30's.
putting him behind mcneil and marte
with alonso and lindor protecting
i cant think of any modern era lineup better than that.
McNeil - RF
Marte - CF
Lindor - SS
Alonso - 1b
Baty - 3b
Alvarez - c
Mauricio- 2b
Vientos - DH
Cannha - LF
I know 4 rookies in a row, but I believe if you let them stay in the lineup 4-6 weeks at least 3 will mash. Defense be dammed. With the pitching next year, they are going to need runs.
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NEWS: According to @JonHeyman
, the #Mets are “in on” Jameson Taillon.
Taillon is expected to get a very good contract in this starting pitching market. #LGM
As for Judge, I doubt 6' 7'' guys 280 lbs are meant to last long in BB.
The only thing guaranteed with DeGrom and judge is they will be out a lot. At 40 million a year its a cost of $250,000 each game they sit out.
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pretty sure that's the best top 5 in baseball and you have DH, C, 3B, and 1 OF spot basically open for Baty, Vientos, Alvarez, Mauricio to transition in over the next couple years.
Yes I'm down with that... Then work the trade market mid season for starting pitching if needed
Actually if they don't bring back Nimmo then you almost have to go after Judge or one of the big SSs..
McNeil - RF
Marte - CF
Lindor - SS
Alonso - 1b
Baty - 3b
Alvarez - c
Mauricio- 2b
Vientos - DH
Cannha - LF
I know 4 rookies in a row, but I believe if you let them stay in the lineup 4-6 weeks at least 3 will mash. Defense be dammed. With the pitching next year, they are going to need runs.
Mauricio hasn't played 2b or 3b in mets org yet, so i think it's likely he starts in AA to get on track at one or the other, then moves up to AAA and is more of an option midseason or if a spot opens up. he only turns 22 in April.
Baty is imo the best bet to win a spot right away. I think has a role mixing in with Canha in LF and Escobar at 3b. Think of that as him replacing Naquin's roster spot.
Vientos can obviously take Ruf's roster spot, but unless he has a big ST it may make sense to have him start in AAA because he is always a slow starter.
Alvarez is a wild card - maybe he wins starting catcher or maybe they want him to start in AAA to work on some defense.
but if you look at this year's final 26 man in the SD series this is how i see it:
Catchers
Francisco Álvarez
Tomás Nido
James McCann
Infielders
Pete Alonso
Eduardo Escobar
Luis Guillorme
Francisco Lindor
Jeff McNeil
Daniel Vogelbach
Outfielders
Mark Canha
Terrance Gore --> baty (path to win roster spot)
Starling Marte
Brandon Nimmo (or external CF judge, bellinger, trade)
Darin Ruf --> vientos (path to win roster spot)
i don't think vogelbach's spot is set in stone but id guess he's back because he's cheap and a nice backstop at DH if all the kids start slow. there's a chance they trade him for something they need more though, like maybe a CF if they miss on the FAs.
Also dont think any of the rookies will be guaranteed spots, they will likely bring in some ST invite vet types to compete for those spots but be easy enough to cut when the time comes to elevate the kids.
his WL team requested it and the Mets approved it.
i still think they would be smart to try him in CF which was also suggested by Law last year. his XBH upside in CF would be huge, and his path to the majors gets a lot clearer. even if he settles into a corner the spots are there with Marte getting older and Canha having 1 year left.
For front office that has never won anything, the level of arrogance is incredible.
Here's what Law noted:
Using last year's FA as a guide the price per starting pitchers one win above replacement was worth $5,430,383.41.
So a JDG 7 fwar season = 38m of value per year, and hey! imagine that almost exactly what TEX is paying him!
note- he has only produced to that level twice in his career. His best year (2018) he was worth 9 fwar and his second best year (2019) he was worth 6.9 fwar. those were his b2b CYs. since he has continued to pitch at a near elite level even if infrequently, i think this is a fair aggressive projection.
so basically the whole contract comes down to how many of the 5 years you think JDG can accomplish that feat. Law seems overly bearish (imo) projecting JDG to make only 60 starts over the deal. 12 per year if he plays all 5 years or 15 per year if he misses 1 full year due to whatever.
the mets were willing to gamble on 3 (or maybe even 4) years presumably hoping they'd be contenders with or without him but hopefully have him in top form help them win a WS in 1 of them even if the total contract ended up under water.
texas is in a different position where they need JDG to carry them forward. that seems like a very risky bet and unless he ages like Verlander, it's tough to see it paying off.
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I am sad that Degrom is leaving. I still remeber him in the their Word Series run. Syndergarrd was a good pitcher too, he probably still is. That young class of Mets pitchers from 2015 was very exciting with even Gsellman; even though he looked like the least promising of them all.