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NFT: FIFA World Cup, Saturday 12/3, USA DAY

bluefin : 12/3/2022 7:19 am
Round of 16

10:00 AM - USA vs. Netherlands

2:00 PM - Argentina vs. Australia

Both games broadcast on FOX

Bracket (thanks to Optimus)

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Quality of Dutch in the box versus the USA struggles in the box  
Rick in Dallas : 12/3/2022 10:48 am : link
We are so challenged to finish chances
RE: Carter-Vickers  
bluefin : 12/3/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15929491 ColHowPepper said:
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would be > better on set pieces, both ways

time to put him in
We did everything but score  
M.S. : 12/3/2022 10:49 am : link

They did nothing but still scored

Gotta bring scorers to the World Cup

We brought passers



Dutch Exposing US on Both Ends  
Jeffrey : 12/3/2022 10:51 am : link
We have been exposed for our inability to finish and our struggles to defend in the box. Last goal seemed destined with US looking a little panicky. Hate to be a pessimist but barring something extraordinary or lucky this game is over.
Need to bring on Reyna and Aaronson  
Kevin in Annapolis : 12/3/2022 10:52 am : link
For the 2nd half
RE: We did everything but score  
Producer : 12/3/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15929517 M.S. said:
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They did nothing but still scored

Gotta bring scorers to the World Cup

We brought passers




The name of thw game is to get goals.

Finishing always a problem for this team. We don't have any truly undeniable players. And we cede a considerable size advantage.
We  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 10:53 am : link
can't score. We can't defend. It's not a good combination.

Bring in Wright and Reyna.
aaronson and reyna need to come in  
Eric on Li : 12/3/2022 10:54 am : link
and they need to go full tilt. that plays into the dutch but they have to at least get themselves within 1 and then it's a game again.

the 2nd goal was inexcusable but the play in the 10-15 minutes before that up the right side through dest was encouraging.
Scoring has been a constant problem, this isn't a new  
PatersonPlank : 12/3/2022 10:54 am : link
phenomenon. We were able to squeeze through the group round because we had a relatively easy group, but its not going to cut it against the better teams. Our midfield looks like they can play with the big teams, however I think our defensive stats were masked by a weaker group and a weaker CONCCAF.

So we can build on our field players, but improvement is really needed at both ends of the field.
Pulisic is gutting it out  
bluefin : 12/3/2022 10:57 am : link
looks like he’s laboring, maybe stiffening up, but giving it all he can.
No scoring threat  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/3/2022 10:59 am : link
Dutch can just wait for the US to pass it around with no threat and let the midfield and fullbacks tire themselves out. Lack of any type of goal scorer threat at forward has killed the team through 4 games.
the right side of the back line has been bad  
ColHowPepper : 12/3/2022 11:01 am : link
Yes, play in final third through Dest good, but he's been late and out of position in defending third. No way Zimmerman should have been re-inserted.

Musah has been invisible, a turnstyle
It’s incredible to me that the USMNT has never had a WC striker  
Rick in Dallas : 12/3/2022 11:03 am : link
So hard to be impactful in box without one
The problem for the USMNT is that we have sucked at set pieces which use to be our strength
Also not having Miles Robinson at center back was a problem on set pieces
Point  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:06 am : link
blank range again and we still don't score. Maybe we should ask the other team not to use their goalie.
the inability of the US  
PA Aggie : 12/3/2022 11:08 am : link
to get the ball into the threatening portion of the penalty box is amazing. As someone said before, one pass too many.

But the rare time we DO get it in, an orange jersey is always there first. It's like our O player doesn't even challenge, especially in the air.
Waited 4 years to get Dutch ovened  
Longtimelurker : 12/3/2022 11:10 am : link
Maybe we are a second half team.
Nice  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:10 am : link
build up, but we again send the ball over the bar.
RE: It’s incredible to me that the USMNT has never had a WC striker  
Producer : 12/3/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15929540 Rick in Dallas said:
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So hard to be impactful in box without one
The problem for the USMNT is that we have sucked at set pieces which use to be our strength
Also not having Miles Robinson at center back was a problem on set pieces


US has never been able to produce an undeniable superstar striker. A Lukaku, a Saleh, A CR.

When we do, it will change the entire landscape of US soccer.
We've  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:15 am : link
had several decades to produce world class strikers and never have, despite being a country with more than 300 million people and essentially unlimited resources. I doubt we ever will.
altidore at the end had a chance to be exactly what this team needs  
Eric on Li : 12/3/2022 11:15 am : link
he looked like he'd matured and finally figured out how to put it all together. just unfortunate timing with the non-qualifying and the program being a mess.
Weah should take this  
ColHowPepper : 12/3/2022 11:16 am : link
.
Virgil is  
bluefin : 12/3/2022 11:18 am : link
a wall.
the last cross  
PA Aggie : 12/3/2022 11:18 am : link
not a single O player jumped. Just one assertive orange jersey. Can we not read a ball in the air?
RE: Virgil is  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15929560 bluefin said:
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a wall.


He's 6'8". He's basically plastic man.
Could Ricardo Pepi become a top striker?  
uconn18 : 12/3/2022 11:19 am : link
He was one of the top scorers in qualifying games and he’s only 19.
Surprised be was omitted from the WC roster.
more possession, more shots, etc.  
LittleBlue : 12/3/2022 11:19 am : link
and it still feels like we are getting worked over
RE: the last cross  
Kevin in Annapolis : 12/3/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15929561 PA Aggie said:
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not a single O player jumped. Just one assertive orange jersey. Can we not read a ball in the air?


Yes, we should be challenging for that ball. But that is not the way we are got to score
Netherlands isn't that great moving forward either  
PatersonPlank : 12/3/2022 11:19 am : link
but they have a solid counter attack and some world class defenders (like van Dijk)
Let's  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:20 am : link
see if Reyna can give us a lift.
RE: more possession, more shots, etc.  
Producer : 12/3/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15929564 LittleBlue said:
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and it still feels like we are getting worked over


Possession isn't the name of the game here. The Dutch are intentionally ceding possession.
got lazy on the second goal  
LittleBlue : 12/3/2022 11:22 am : link
we are pushing the play. if it were 1-0 i would feel optimistic…
RE: RE: more possession, more shots, etc.  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:23 am : link
In comment 15929568 Producer said:
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In comment 15929564 LittleBlue said:


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and it still feels like we are getting worked over



Possession isn't the name of the game here. The Dutch are intentionally ceding possession.


^This. The Dutch have essentially decided to base most of their offense on counterattacks.
i’ve watched all four games  
LittleBlue : 12/3/2022 11:24 am : link
and can’t remember a single medium-quality chance for US on a corner/set piece.
Why Weah??  
ColHowPepper : 12/3/2022 11:25 am : link
?
RE: Why Weah??  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:29 am : link
In comment 15929575 ColHowPepper said:
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?


Probably fatigue.

Nice saves by Turner.
A  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:32 am : link
very heavy touch by Wright created a bad angle for the shot.
Yeah!  
rnargi : 12/3/2022 11:33 am : link
Not done yet!
Yes!  
bluefin : 12/3/2022 11:33 am : link
Slick goal!
LFG  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2022 11:33 am : link
!
What  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:33 am : link
a lucky goal, but we'll take it. Now push everyone forward. Probably 20 minutes to go.
Lol  
ColHowPepper : 12/3/2022 11:33 am : link
.
Haji Wright from the Turkish League!  
Producer : 12/3/2022 11:36 am : link
.
Pulisic's set piece services are uninspiring  
Producer : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
not that he has any great targets.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
Well, that's all she wrote.
That's  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
it. More terrible defense from the U.S. Our goal was lucky. Theirs were not.
that was some terrible defending  
Del Shofner : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
right there
defense  
LittleBlue : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
three goals from completely unmarked players
Completely  
bluefin : 12/3/2022 11:38 am : link
unmarked
More defending  
PatersonPlank : 12/3/2022 11:39 am : link
We defend like an England League 2 team.
Unmarked  
UConn4523 : 12/3/2022 11:39 am : link
Awful
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