Ranaan thinks OBJ wants to be Giants

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than saying that Victor Cruz or Hakeem Nicks is coming back.

The Giants future receivers are somewhere buried in the next 2 draft classes. Go find them.

BOTH WERE great players ...

BOTH ARE BROKEN ....

BOTH ARE expensive ...

Golladay is quiet; OBJ has a mouth ...

The Giants need to move on from BOTH

As some have mentioned he might not contribute much this year but he is really looking for a 20223 contract.

Looking at NYG realistically, DJ8 might actually walk and we'd have TT as QB or a rookie. Not ideally, situation and I know $$$ play a factor. We should be getting younger not older. As other have noted we have one highly paid WR who is not living up to the stupid contract that was offered him.

Yes. I like a good Hollywood ending to stories,but not in this case. Pass and move onto the draft. It is very unlikely he is adding anything to the team this year. Long to the future and the long term viability of the team.

If he has a plan let’s see it unfold. Do I want him back? Yes, but let’s see what happens.

In comment 15929641 Jim in Tampa said:

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In comment 15929634 bw in dc said: Quote: the last thing this team needs under this new regime is distractions. And OBJ has distraction written all over him. Let another team deal with him. Please. Remember all the OBJ distractions the Rams when through on their way to a Super bowl championship? Yeah, me neither.

Are you comfortable that that wasn't the exception rather than the rule?

what contract would they offer him to improve the 2023 roster since WR is an obvious weakness and he might be the best WR available.

that's it.
anything in 2022 is gravy.

clearly they have some level of interest, which is unlikely to be based on anything he can do in 2022, and clearly they should be aware of what anderson and ranaan have now reported that OBJ is looking for a place he can play for multiple seasons.

so what is their level of multi-year interest? what is a reasonable projected multi-year value for OBJ?

is it similar to the 11.5m AAV Gallup got last offseason while rehabbing his ACL (term adjusted for age)?

when he brings on next year's rookie class.

It is highly likely that the Giants will draft a WR on either day one or day two and will add more receiving talent on day three.

It would be nice to have a seasoned professional in the room mentoring the rookies and showing them how an NFL wideout prepares for game day.

In comment 15929739 Hammer said:

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when he brings on next year's rookie class. It is highly likely that the Giants will draft a WR on either day one or day two and will add more receiving talent on day three. It would be nice to have a seasoned professional in the room mentoring the rookies and showing them how an NFL wideout prepares for game day.

Nothing he has ever done would suggest that OBJ is a leader or a good mentor. Did you not follow the lead up to the playoff game with the Packers? That was his opportunity to lead. Basically, he led the tank job. Hiring OBJ is only about his on-field performance. There is no other value to him.

In comment 15929453 Tuckrule said:

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OBJ wants to be a giants. Unfinished business……..AS LONG AS HE GETD PAID. Thanks Jordan for the awesome report!

It would not have been unfinished business if he had not tanked the playoff game.

we can't pretend it's March.

in March, OBJ would be able to show whether he's still got any legs. Right now, IF he's not working out, it's a guessing game whether OBJ can still run and cut.

For a minimal contract, it might be worth a risk.

OBJ has matured; he’s got a ring and I think he wants back here to alter people’s perception of him. I’m all for it, I’d be thinking the signing is all about next season when perhaps the Giants will definitely be able to compete for a title.

Right away becomes the best receiver the Giants have had since, well since himself.

In comment 15929814 fkap said:

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we can't pretend it's March. in March, OBJ would be able to show whether he's still got any legs. Right now, IF he's not working out, it's a guessing game whether OBJ can still run and cut. For a minimal contract, it might be worth a risk.

he's not likely to workout in march either. he's going to under go a physical and medical review like any other FA.

Mitchell and Garland leading the way. We have Randle and RJ. totally gross

wrong chat+

The issue about OBJ passing a physical - I legit do not know entirely what is included in the type of physical he would have to pass and if it is rigorous enough to truly demonstrate potential effectiveness if it doesn't include a workout as well. In any case, I trust JS and BD to make the best decision for the Giants both from the team and salary standpoint. And I haven't had this kind of trust of a GM and HC in a long time.

In comment 15929989 jpennyva said:

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The issue about OBJ passing a physical - I legit do not know entirely what is included in the type of physical he would have to pass and if it is rigorous enough to truly demonstrate potential effectiveness if it doesn't include a workout as well. In any case, I trust JS and BD to make the best decision for the Giants both from the team and salary standpoint. And I haven't had this kind of trust of a GM and HC in a long time.

that's the case with almost all free agents. in the nfl a bunch of guys sign in the middle of rehabs. bud dupree a few years ago in TEN. gallup extended last offseason in the middle of a rehab. the teams review the MRIs and medical info they get and rarely get veterans to work out for them.

mike mccarthy was asked the workout question re obj and here was what he said:



obviously none of us have the info and im sure even schoen like mccarthy wants to gather as much info as he can in the process.

my point is that they probably have about the same info they would have in march 2023 and that's how they need to look at the decision to add him. presumably they have, and still have interest or else why bother going through the dog and pony show?

In comment 15929542 CMicks3110 said:

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Have you seen the rest of free agent wide receiver class? It’s awful!

So what? Who says he's any better right now? He wants a big payday now to include the next 2-3 seasons. That is insane, especially considering he may not even do a damn thing this year.

In comment 15929661 Eric from BBI said:

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From what I've read, he isn't working out. He's meeting but he's not running routes. Jerry Jones said a week or two ago that he didn't know if Beckham could even pass a physical.

There's a good chance that's also Jones posturing so others are scared off.

In comment 15929731 bw in dc said:

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In comment 15929641 Jim in Tampa said: Quote: In comment 15929634 bw in dc said: Quote: the last thing this team needs under this new regime is distractions. And OBJ has distraction written all over him. Let another team deal with him. Please. Remember all the OBJ distractions the Rams when through on their way to a Super bowl championship? Yeah, me neither. Are you comfortable that that wasn't the exception rather than the rule?

Exactly. That's 1/2 of a season out of almost his entire career. Hell, he's not even on a team right now and he's a distraction for a number of them.

In comment 15929573 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15929542 CMicks3110 said: Quote: Have you seen the rest of free agent wide receiver class? It’s awful! How many times are we going to fall into this trap before you guys realize it's not the right move. I told BBI that the Nate Solder contract was stupid. The response was, "what choice do we have?" Dumb thinking.

Unbelievable, isn't it? Incredible how some on here on this thread haven't learned about Solder. Dealing for mediocrity while overpaying isn't smart. Mediocrity does absolutely nothing for this team by the time this guy is ready.

And after we sign him. and then when it doesn't work out, these same posters that wanted him so bad will make the same dumb comments that were made after the Solder failure that they knew it was dumb but the Giants HAD to do it.

he can't pass a physical exam?

In comment 15930156 jmdvm said:

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he can't pass a physical exam?

Is this a trick question?

it all. If this is the case, it ain't the NY Giants, not this year, and likely not next year. Let him be overpaid by Dallas or Buffalo. The Giants shouldn't be spending cap money on a receiver who likely lost his quickness and who might go down at any time.

In comment 15929592 bw in dc said:

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In comment 15929537 Eric from BBI said: Quote: Seems like a lot of NYG fans have nostalgia for guys like Beckham and Collins that don't seem to match up with the situation in 2022. Exactly. Throw JPP into that mix, too. Too many romantics in this fanbase...

Has always been the case. New Yorkers love a prodigal son story.

In comment 15930164 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 15930156 jmdvm said: Quote: he can't pass a physical exam? Is this a trick question?

Everyone is assuming his knee will pass a physical. What if it doesn't?

In comment 15930858 jmdvm said:

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In comment 15930164 BigBlueShock said: Quote: In comment 15930156 jmdvm said: Quote: he can't pass a physical exam? Is this a trick question? Everyone is assuming his knee will pass a physical. What if it doesn't?

Nobody but those whose salary depends on clicks is assuming anything (and even they aren't assuming he will pass a physical, they're just conveniently leaving it out of their report).