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The Giants Have Not Scored 30 Points This Season

gidiefor : Mod : 12/3/2022 10:27 am
or in the last three years

How can anyone rationalize that they can score 30 points right now ?????
We chose not  
Jolly Blue Giant : 12/3/2022 10:31 am : link
To score 30 against Baltimore.
Scored 34 in 2020 in 37-34 loss at Dallas  
shyster : 12/3/2022 10:39 am : link
Game where Dak got hurt and Andy Dalton closed it out.
Even  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 10:41 am : link
if we exempt the Baltimore game, that's still just one time in the last three years. I don't think we'll come close to scoring 30 points this season. Our main weapons on offense are Jones and Barkley running, and teams have not surprisingly figured out how to stop them.
RE: Scored 34 in 2020 in 37-34 loss at Dallas  
AcidTest : 12/3/2022 10:41 am : link
In comment 15929499 shyster said:
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Game where Dak got hurt and Andy Dalton closed it out.


You're right. I forgot about that game.
Although I  
g56blue10 : 12/3/2022 10:45 am : link
Understand your point the part about you don’t think will come close to scoring 30 this season makes no sense. Even in your post you acknowledge we could have against Baltimore. We also scored 27 against the packers and 24 a couple more times.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2022 10:48 am : link
An amazing stat when one thinks about it.
What is your point?  
Archer : 12/3/2022 10:53 am : link
If your point is that the Giants are not a high scoring team, I think that is obvious.

This is not a team that is built to score a lot.

Scoring 30 points is not the formula that the Giants rely upon for success.

There may be a time when the offense can score 30 points with regularity, but for that to occur the Giants need quality playmakers.
If you add the points up,  
MOOPS : 12/3/2022 10:54 am : link
we're waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy over 30.
I wonder if  
cjac : 12/3/2022 10:59 am : link
This is going to turn into a Daniel Jones sucks thread
The offensive gameplan isn't geared to get 30 points  
PatersonPlank : 12/3/2022 11:09 am : link
its geared to win TOP and the field position battle. We did have a chance to score 30 a few times and basically chose not to (like Balt).
RE: ...  
Ron Johnson : 12/3/2022 11:14 am : link
In comment 15929513 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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An amazing stat when one thinks about it.


Not when you consider that the gameplans for 3 years have been to keep the games within one score in the 4th quarter and try to steal the game at the end. Fewer possessions, fewer turnovers, no receivers, bad pass protection ... fewer points.

By design.
Tomorrow Blue 31 Red 13  
No Where Man : 12/3/2022 11:24 am : link
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Predictions  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/3/2022 11:27 am : link
that have the Giants or Commanders winning in a blowout don't make sense either. That's not the way these two teams play.
Scoring is down throughout the league  
Spiciest Memelord : 12/3/2022 11:45 am : link
the days of Peyton Manning pre-snap reading a D and Marino throwing at the old drop back in zone and break on the ball shit that no longer works are over. Something the Giants are/were too slow to recognize.

Until the NFL changes rules in favor of offense again.
Not sure why tha tis important, I am happy if the Giants win 6 - 3!  
Jack Stroud : 12/3/2022 11:49 am : link
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I think that Daboll and Schoen  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/3/2022 11:51 am : link
Have seen enough from Jones to see him for what he is. The poor Int in week one, to that poor throw on 4th down with the game in the balance, I doubt they hitch their wagon to him going forward. I could see a guy like Jones going to a established team with an aging out QB and doing well. But I think our new management will want to go their own way just my opinion
Pauline, there’s no qb in the draft who is better than DJ. So I doubt  
plato : 12/3/2022 12:02 pm : link
Giants let DJ go. His pluses are there, and he has had a good year up till now.
Don't really see the offensive team  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/3/2022 12:08 pm : link
for that. The defense has been good at keeping points down for the most part. Giants are running a lot and have had lots of long time consuming drives. When they have won this has mostly been the case.
Its semantics,  
bLiTz 2k : 12/3/2022 12:14 pm : link
but they did give up an easy TD late in the packer game in order to run out the clock.
I suspect  
ChicagoMarty : 12/3/2022 12:16 pm : link
that the only games we will score 30 will be those games where we get major contributions from either our ST or the D takes a strip sack to the house or generates a pick six or two.

It could happen...
RE: I think that Daboll and Schoen  
Maijay : 12/3/2022 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15929620 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Have seen enough from Jones to see him for what he is. The poor Int in week one, to that poor throw on 4th down with the game in the balance, I doubt they hitch their wagon to him going forward. I could see a guy like Jones going to a established team with an aging out QB and doing well. But I think our new management will want to go their own way just my opinion

DJ at best will be a good backup QB in the NFL. Maybe for the Giants he could be the transition QB if a QB is available in 2023 Draft. This scenario assumes Daboll and Schoen want him with a fair contract acceptable to all parties.
Giants will score  
jvm52106 : 12/3/2022 12:31 pm : link
31 this Sunday..


Sticking to that. These teams play odd games agai st each other and I think the GMEN played super conservative in the late second half against Dallas to protect Jones and Oline health wise.. They looked at tomorrow as the start of the run to the finish line..
Having an OL,  
Joe Beckwith : 12/3/2022 12:33 pm : link
especially the middle, and WRs that could run good routes, and actually HOLD ONTO , the ball, would help, a lot.
RE: Scored 34 in 2020 in 37-34 loss at Dallas  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2022 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15929499 shyster said:
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Game where Dak got hurt and Andy Dalton closed it out.

technically....Fackrell had a defensive TD in that game, the offense hasn't score 30 going all the way back to 2019.

RE: Not sure why tha tis important, I am happy if the Giants win 6 - 3!  
joeinpa : 12/3/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15929615 Jack Stroud said:
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It s not important, just a stat shared with no context
If you think it’s important to score 30 points then  
chick310 : 12/3/2022 1:22 pm : link
build a passing game.

Running the ball as a focal point isn’t going to do it unless your defense is creating a ton of turnovers.
RE: Giants will score  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/3/2022 2:01 pm : link
In comment 15929656 jvm52106 said:
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31 this Sunday..


Sticking to that. These teams play odd games agai st each other and I think the GMEN played super conservative in the late second half against Dallas to protect Jones and Oline health wise.. They looked at tomorrow as the start of the run to the finish line..


You see this is what I am talking about -- jvm -- you are a knowledgeable poster, but that's unrealistic. The Giants are just not going to score 30 points tomorrow. Not the way they are built right now.

It's going to be a grind it out game on both sides. Washington is actually built more to score than the Giants are, but in this case, these are two teams that play each other twice a year. They both play a similar grind out the clock game.
RE: Scoring is down throughout the league  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15929611 Spiciest Memelord said:
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the days of Peyton Manning pre-snap reading a D and Marino throwing at the old drop back in zone and break on the ball shit that no longer works are over. Something the Giants are/were too slow to recognize.

Until the NFL changes rules in favor of offense again.


It’s down 1.4 points a game from last year and still a top 25 scoring year all time.
RE: I think that Daboll and Schoen  
kickoff : 12/3/2022 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15929620 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Have seen enough from Jones to see him for what he is. The poor Int in week one, to that poor throw on 4th down with the game in the balance, I doubt they hitch their wagon to him going forward. I could see a guy like Jones going to a established team with an aging out QB and doing well. But I think our new management will want to go their own way just my opinion

Let me understand, so you think Daboll and Schoen are going to make their decision on DJ based on 2 interceptions. Especially when he's only thrown 4 on the year so far.
Other than not picking up Jones 5th year option, which had to be done  
Ivan15 : 12/3/2022 2:48 pm : link
Before they had seen Jones play a meaningful minute, nothing Schoen/Daboll has said or done suggests that they have made a decision on Jones. Just the opposite. They haven’t benched him for even one series except when he was hurt.
Jones will start for the rest of the year, and we will know when they know.
RE: Other than not picking up Jones 5th year option, which had to be done  
joeinpa : 12/3/2022 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15929803 Ivan15 said:
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Before they had seen Jones play a meaningful minute, nothing Schoen/Daboll has said or done suggests that they have made a decision on Jones. Just the opposite. They haven’t benched him for even one series except when he was hurt.
Jones will start for the rest of the year, and we will know when they know.


This sentiment has no place on a thread about Daniel Jones…..it s too dam logical 👍
I think the decision on Jones  
Dave on the UWS : 12/3/2022 4:19 pm : link
will be HEAVILLY influenced by these last 6 games. He has shown he can be a "functional" QB, bottom 3rd starter in the league type. Now, can he lift his level and the team's level and be a "winning" QB. He gets his first chance Sunday.
This doesn't mean he has to light it up for 400 yards, it means make the plays when they are there and lead the team to a win. That's what Schoen and Daboll need to see to offer him the kind of contract he will want.
Yep. 40 games  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 12/3/2022 7:55 pm : link

without scoring over 30 points.
RE: Other than not picking up Jones 5th year option, which had to be done  
chick310 : 12/4/2022 9:50 am : link
In comment 15929803 Ivan15 said:
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Before they had seen Jones play a meaningful minute, nothing Schoen/Daboll has said or done suggests that they have made a decision on Jones. Just the opposite. They haven’t benched him for even one series except when he was hurt.
Jones will start for the rest of the year, and we will know when they know.


Schoen/Daboll don't have access to film of Daniel Jones during his career at Duke and the last three years with the Giants to watch even a meaningful minute?

Wow, that is surprising.
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