CFB Championship Saturday

Looks sharp early.

Does anyone find it somewhat ironic that Ohio State is likely already in...yet they are the one team that doesn't have to play today.

The three that are...Michigan, Georgia, and likely TCU will get in no matter what happens, so why bother playing and risking injuries...if the ultimate goal is winning a national championship.

Crazy that Ohio State has the advantage of not having to play and risk anyone getting hurt, while the other three do.

In comment 15929660 giants62 said:

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Does anyone find it somewhat ironic that Ohio State is likely already in...yet they are the one team that doesn't have to play today. The three that are...Michigan, Georgia, and likely TCU will get in no matter what happens, so why bother playing and risking injuries...if the ultimate goal is winning a national championship. Crazy that Ohio State has the advantage of not having to play and risk anyone getting hurt, while the other three do.

True. But they’re also stuck likely playing Georgia and can’t improve their positioning.

That was likely to happen in any case since they probably wouldn't want a big ten rematch until the final. I'm just saying, other than a conference championship there is very little incentive for any of the teams to play today and risk injury to some of their better players. It's like that third game of the world cup where France sat everyone because they had already advanced. Realistically, all three of the teams playing today have already advanced. So again, why risk injury?

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In comment 15929666 giants62 said:

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other than a conference championship there is very little incentive

Conference championships are VERY meaningful.

Has improved every season of college ball.

Quick release. Love the placement on that deep ball to QJ early, and under duress, hit him in stride on the sideline shoulder. Just a thing of perfection.

is a shoe in. There are still some things that can happen that shake things up imv. It's gonna be hard to avoid pretty significant controversy however it ends up but at least they are now expanding the CFP.

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In comment 15929693 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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is a shoe in. There are still some things that can happen that shake things up imv. It's gonna be hard to avoid pretty significant controversy however it ends up but at least they are now expanding the CFP.

If TCU loses, they are.

probably. What if Michigan loses? Even a extremely close game can change some things imv. It's not likely but I think there is a path for that to happen where they get left out.

Utah over USC. Absolutely took it to them. Couldn’t be happier.

In comment 15929706 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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probably. What if Michigan loses? Even a extremely close game can change some things imv. It's not likely but I think there is a path for that to happen where they get left out.

Michigan is in no matter what, but they could drop to 4 with a loss.

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In comment 15929706 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: probably. What if Michigan loses? Even a extremely close game can change some things imv. It's not likely but I think there is a path for that to happen where they get left out. Michigan is in no matter what, but they could drop to 4 with a loss.

I agree with this. I also think it changes the equation for Ohio State and opens it up for another team.

Big turnover after a big fourth down stop by TCU.

Barring an unlikely blow out

USC loss = OH in

TCU loss, they are out, Bama in. Like it or not late season losses hurt more

If it happened that way and all three lost, what other team would they take over a one loss Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia and TCU?

Alabama or Clemson with 2? LSU with 3?

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If it happened that way and all three lost, what other team would they take over a one loss Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia and TCU? Alabama or Clemson with 2? LSU with 3?

Alabama. Probably would depend on how close a loss by TCU.

fumble

In comment 15929660 giants62 said:

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Does anyone find it somewhat ironic that Ohio State is likely already in...yet they are the one team that doesn't have to play today. The three that are...Michigan, Georgia, and likely TCU will get in no matter what happens, so why bother playing and risking injuries...if the ultimate goal is winning a national championship. Crazy that Ohio State has the advantage of not having to play and risk anyone getting hurt, while the other three do.

The gambling industry would be pissed if they didn't play!

should replace Daniel Jones!

In comment 15929730 joeinpa said:

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Barring an unlikely blow out USC loss = OH in TCU loss, they are out, Bama in. Like it or not late season losses hurt more

I said this on the USC/Utah thread - Bama should not be in over a one loss TCU.

In comment 15929660 giants62 said:

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Does anyone find it somewhat ironic that Ohio State is likely already in...yet they are the one team that doesn't have to play today. The three that are...Michigan, Georgia, and likely TCU will get in no matter what happens, so why bother playing and risking injuries...if the ultimate goal is winning a national championship. Crazy that Ohio State has the advantage of not having to play and risk anyone getting hurt, while the other three do.

I posted last week ohio state would end up 4th and it was inferred I was crazy and that USC was a better team. :shrug:

In comment 15929780 RCPhoenix said:

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In comment 15929730 joeinpa said: Quote: Barring an unlikely blow out USC loss = OH in TCU loss, they are out, Bama in. Like it or not late season losses hurt more I said this on the USC/Utah thread - Bama should not be in over a one loss TCU.

If your basing it strickly off of whose the better team, then they should be in over a 0 loss TCU

Faulters just little, OSU is in at 4.
If UM faulters, they are “3.
If both , then they move in OSU to 2, UM to 3, and Alabama to 4.
Ya think Ga-Bama & OSU- UM will get a few viewers?
It’s about the $$$.

OSU is already in regardless, USC is out

TCU opens the door for alabama.

That's PI? Questionable.

Come the fuck on TCU. I so don't wanna see 'Bama in the CFP.

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by this QB.

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I think that gets TCU in over Alabama even if they lose.

If TCU wins they are 3 seed. If they lose they are 4 and OSU is 3. OSU plays Michigan. Alabama is out regardless

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I think that gets TCU in over Alabama even if they lose.

I agree with this even thought I think Bama has the potential to be a better playoff team.

In comment 15929845 jmalls23 said:

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If TCU wins they are 3 seed. If they lose they are 4 and OSU is 3. OSU plays Michigan. Alabama is out regardless

I don’t think they want another OSU-Michigan game in the semis. TCU to stay at 3

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I think that gets TCU in over Alabama even if they lose.

I agree - especially since if they lose today it will be close

As much as I hate 'Bama, their two losses were by a combined 4 points to the Vols & Tigers.

In comment 15929849 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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As much as I hate 'Bama, their two losses were by a combined 4 points to the Vols & Tigers.

If that’s the argument to get Alabama in over Ohio State, I agree with you. But not TCU.

I'd put Alabama in over OSU. But that's me. I do think if it comes down to the two, OSU will get in.

Don't see how this game hasn't locked up the Heisman for Duggan, especially if TCU wins here in OT.

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In comment 15929849 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: As much as I hate 'Bama, their two losses were by a combined 4 points to the Vols & Tigers. If that’s the argument to get Alabama in over Ohio State, I agree with you. But not TCU.

This has been my argument. Especially if Purdue keep it close today. Give me Saban/Young over Day/Stroud. SEC pver Big 10.

I have no faith in the Boilermakers keeping it close to the Wolverines.

In comment 15929864 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I have no faith in the Boilermakers keeping it close to the Wolverines.

I have not seen them. Up in the thread I put that this game could change things and impact Ohio State. A close game to me diminishes the Big 10 and Ohio State which opens it up for Bama. Longshot. I think TCU should be in regardless how this ends.

K-State goal line stand.

In comment 15929877 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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K-State goal line stand.

Thought they scored on third down based on the overhead view. Surprised it didn’t get a longer look.

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Comeback was good enough to get TCU in.

I thought so too.

Tough loss for TCU, but I still think they should get in.

My CFP projections: 1) Georgia, 2) Michigan, 3) 'Bama, 4) TCU.

with a huge upset....Playoffs jumbled up outside of Michigan and Georgia.

In comment 15929883 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I thought so too. Tough loss for TCU, but I still think they should get in. My CFP projections: 1) Georgia, 2) Michigan, 3) 'Bama, 4) TCU.

Yeah, I think so too

ND fan as I think you are. 2 loss Bama still gets the nod? Enough already.

I hope TCU still gets in.

Ohio State will get it over Alabama, even though they don’t deserve to. Georgia-Ohio State, Michigan-TCU

but better than USC haha

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In comment 15929883 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: I thought so too. Tough loss for TCU, but I still think they should get in. My CFP projections: 1) Georgia, 2) Michigan, 3) 'Bama, 4) TCU. Yeah, I think so too

Ohio State will be in over a 2 loss Alabama

I think 'Bama is a superior team to OSU. & the CFP committee will do WHATEVER they can to get them in.

just to sure that it really is about TV and big money.

Georgia vs. OSU
Michigan vs. Alabama

Do it. The ratings will be huge.

I might be wrong & OSU gets in over 'Bama. But I think 'Bama is a better team. And I hate Alabama.

I'll be the first to go on record and say

1)Georgia
2)Michigan
3)OSU
4)Alabama

TCU was always a long shot to get in unless they stayed perfect and they didn't. CFP loves Alabama. I think this will push them to get in. These are also the best 4 teams in the country and would probably also bring in the most viewers

In comment 15929891 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I think 'Bama is a superior team to OSU. & the CFP committee will do WHATEVER they can to get them in.

If USC had won everyone seems to agree they’d be in the CFP. Now only 2 teams have 1 loss. What has changed that now one of them is bounced by a team with 2 losses?

I think TCU should still get in regardless of this loss. Look @ their resume...damn impressive.

OSU's resume is weak AF IMO. And this is coming from a dude who roots for a team that loss to them.

one top 20 victory. They got blown out in the 4th at home. I agree with SFG and unless Purdue plays a very close game I think OSU gets in but shouldn't. I want Bama in but not over TCU. TCU has I think three top twenty wins. They deserve it imv.

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I'll be the first to go on record and say 1)Georgia 2)Michigan 3)OSU 4)Alabama TCU was always a long shot to get in unless they stayed perfect and they didn't. CFP loves Alabama. I think this will push them to get in. These are also the best 4 teams in the country and would probably also bring in the most viewers

TCU played a tougher schedule than Ohio State. Ohio State has no business getting in over them.

If the Trojans win last night, they're a lock. Throw their loss in with TCU & it gets interesting AF. If chalk held last night & today, this would have been a wrap.

I think I just have the Bama fatigue at this point. 2 losses so was like ok they are out. Only team in the country that would be considered with 2 losses based on expectations not results.

Oh, trust me. I have Bama fatigue too. I can't stand them or Saban. But I think their resume is far superior to OSU. And I don't think it's a ?.

In comment 15929900 jeff57 said:

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In comment 15929894 outeiroj said: Quote: I'll be the first to go on record and say 1)Georgia 2)Michigan 3)OSU 4)Alabama TCU was always a long shot to get in unless they stayed perfect and they didn't. CFP loves Alabama. I think this will push them to get in. These are also the best 4 teams in the country and would probably also bring in the most viewers TCU played a tougher schedule than Ohio State. Ohio State has no business getting in over them.

That's cool and all, but OSU is still OSU and they sell more tickets and get more tv viewers. Same reason why a 2 loss Alabama will likely get in.

I don't like the 2 loss precedent being set, but that won't matter when it goes to 12 so whatevs I guess

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If the Trojans win last night, they're a lock. Throw their loss in with TCU & it gets interesting AF. If chalk held last night & today, this would have been a wrap.

I really don’t think it’s any more complicated than how many losses they have. And 2 teams -as of now - only have 1 loss.

Trust me, as a Michigan fan who was in Indy last year at this time I hate Ohio State and don’t want to see them advance, but I just don’t see how it doesn’t happen.

You very well might be right. It'd piss me off if one got in ahead of TCU, especially OSU.

Daniels looks good so far for LSU

In comment 15929899 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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one top 20 victory. They got blown out in the 4th at home. I agree with SFG and unless Purdue plays a very close game I think OSU gets in but shouldn't. I want Bama in but not over TCU. TCU has I think three top twenty wins. They deserve it imv.

Not arguing who should be in. But again, late season losses for some reason get weighed heavier. Add in SEC bias and a case can be made for Bama.

However, if I had to lay money on it:

Georgia and Michigan in

TCU 3. OH 4

Imagine if LSU had won last week AND beat Georgia this afternoon. The Tigers would be a lock.

IT's A LIVE BALL FFS!

Georgia runs it back for a TD

Did they forget a blocked FG is a live ball? Heads up play by GA

I agree the committee already established Ohio State as 5. I was just suggesting a close game between Purd/Mich should change that imv.

For a TD

By refs on that spot where Duggan came close to scoring. Should’ve been spotted on 1 inch line. Instead of 1 yard line. Even the replay showed it correctly. The refs screwed them

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I agree the committee already established Ohio State as 5. I was just suggesting a close game between Purd/Mich should change that imv.

Not following how that would impact OH. You mean higher than 4?

is worth first round pick, upgrade from what we have now.

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A blocked FG back for a TD?

In comment 15929945 joeinpa said:

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In comment 15929930 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: I agree the committee already established Ohio State as 5. I was just suggesting a close game between Purd/Mich should change that imv. Not following how that would impact OH. You mean higher than 4?

Out of curiosity, why do you keep referring to Ohio State as “OH”? Is this supposed to be some clever dig at them, calling them Ohio instead of Ohio State?

For whatever it is worth, Pat Forde said UGA Michigan TCU & OSU in CFP.

I will be very surprised if Dawgs don't repeat.

In comment 15929962 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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For whatever it is worth, Pat Forde said UGA Michigan TCU & OSU in CFP.

Think he’s right

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Prospects. I think both have starting potential down the road.

McCall is coming off a foot injury so what he does today is just gravy. Pratt is just fucking impressive.

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And Loveland is quite a player - as a freshman

12-1 loss in OT
Play calling sucked on goal line
OS no way deserves to get in at 11-1

Michigan has been a second half team all season though - given that pattern they’ll probably pull away from Purdue.

Interviews Nick Sabin during halftime so he can lobby for his team. Shouldn’t all other coaches on the fringe get that type of exposure?

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Interviews Nick Sabin during halftime so he can lobby for his team. Shouldn’t all other coaches on the fringe get that type of exposure?

Seriously

In comment 15929956 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 15929945 joeinpa said: Quote: In comment 15929930 Lines of Scrimmage said: Quote: I agree the committee already established Ohio State as 5. I was just suggesting a close game between Purd/Mich should change that imv. Not following how that would impact OH. You mean higher than 4? Out of curiosity, why do you keep referring to Ohio State as “OH”? Is this supposed to be some clever dig at them, calling them Ohio instead of Ohio State?

Lol No, just being lazy. But this place will lead to suspicions like yours

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Michigan has been a second half team all season though - given that pattern they’ll probably pull away from Purdue.

And now it’s 28-13 with 10:32 left in the 3rd quarter

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Yep -

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... play at the next level?

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In comment 15930142 Brown_Hornet said:

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... play at the next level?

Yes, he torched Michigan and Penn State, both teams with really strong secondaries. May not be a star, but should be able to have success in the nfl.

its nice to feel this way a 2nd year in a row!

Harbaugh certainly responding after some heat with back to back Big 10 titles. Like the way they play. We will see how they match up on the lines soon enough.

Answering why I thought a close Mich/Purd game could have impacted Ohio State. I used the final top 25 rankings.

Bama had wins over MiSU (25) and Texas (20 who also beat KSU 12). Two losses on the road Tenn. (7) and LSU (11) by four total points.

Ohio State. Only win against Penn State (8). Lost Michigan (2) by 15 at home.

The thing I saw Penn State. Penn State does not have a win against a top 25 team all season (based on final rankings).

Bama Strength of schedule 8. Ohio State 67.

The fact that the committee already put OSU at 5 makes it hard to change now imv. If Purdue (unranked) played a really close game and lost I think it further diminished the Big 10 strength and Ohio States one win over a top 25 team.

I also think Bama is a team who could give Georgia a game. Maybe OSU will shine in the playoffs if things stay as they most likely appear they will. I think should absolutely be in.

No 2-loss team belongs .... period !!!! Has NEVER happened before. Adios Alabama.
Georgia and Michigan #1 and #2. TCU with first loss, and Ohio State with 1 loss, both get in. Ohio State will be #4 since committee doesn't want a repeat of a recent game in the semi's (Wolverines and Buckeyes). UGA beats Ohio State, Michigan beats TCU. UGA beats Michigan just as bad as last year. Dawgs repeat as CF Champions and then plan for three in a row next year !!!!

The win over LSU gave Georgia its "fifth" win over a team ranked in the College Football Playoff top 25 rankings. Ohio State and Alabama have a "combined" four such wins.

In comment 15930212 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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Bama had wins over MiSU (25) and Texas (20 who also beat KSU 12). Two losses on the road Tenn. (7) and LSU (11) by four total points. Ohio State. Only win against Penn State (8). Lost Michigan (2) by 15 at home. The thing I saw Penn State. Penn State does not have a win against a top 25 team all season (based on final rankings). Bama Strength of schedule 8. Ohio State 67. The fact that the committee already put OSU at 5 makes it hard to change now imv. If Purdue (unranked) played a really close game and lost I think it further diminished the Big 10 strength and Ohio States one win over a top 25 team. I also think Bama is a team who could give Georgia a game. Maybe OSU will shine in the playoffs if things stay as they most likely appear they will. I think should absolutely be in.

Very good points. Agree 100%. Bama should definitely be in.

When they rolled Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas was 20th in the rankings. And when they won in Ole Miss, Ole Miss was 11th.

I have no doubt if they played Georgia, it's a 50/50 game Bama is equally as talented. And built for that game.

Just did it on PFN Mock Draft Simulator

1) WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
2) WR Xavier Hutchinson - Iowa State
3) TE Darnell Washington - Georgia
3) IOL Jarrett Patterson - Notre Dame
4) ILB Owen Pappoe - Auburn
5) QB Michael Pratt - Tulane
6) RB Roschon Johnson - Texas
7) DL PJ Mustipher - Penn State