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Is today the biggest game of Daniel Jones’ career?

CMicks3110 : 12/4/2022 7:29 am
I have to think so. And he must know it too. Jones has always shown himself to be very competitive and tough. I wonder how the added pressure impacts how he performs. Does he/can he pull an Eli and win over the fans, front office and league?
Probably Yes  
M.S. : 12/4/2022 7:31 am : link

And it is also the biggest game of Head Coach Brian Daboll's career.
Guess you could say that  
j_rud : 12/4/2022 7:31 am : link
On the bright side he usually shows up big vs Washington
RE: Probably Yes  
bluefin : 12/4/2022 7:34 am : link
In comment 15930172 M.S. said:
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And it is also the biggest game of Head Coach Brian Daboll's career.

True, and they’ll both do a great job today.
Yes.  
mfjmfj : 12/4/2022 7:55 am : link
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So far I’d say so  
Tuckrule : 12/4/2022 8:09 am : link
If they win then the next game is the biggest game etc. he’s not the type to crumble under pressure. In fact, he plays well in the hurry up and 2 min drill. Looking forward to his performance today but I think they ride saquon similar to the Texans game. I’m expecting close to 30 touches for him today.
RE: Probably Yes  
Sean : 12/4/2022 8:14 am : link
In comment 15930172 M.S. said:
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And it is also the biggest game of Head Coach Brian Daboll's career.

I’d add Barkley too.
Here’s why it’s big  
Sean : 12/4/2022 8:15 am : link
In my opinion, there is no way Jones returns if this team misses the playoffs. None. These 6 games are enormous for him.
Yes...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/4/2022 8:19 am : link
Until the next one.
If Jones wants a contract  
BigBlueShock : 12/4/2022 8:25 am : link
From either the Giants or another team these are the games he absolutely has to win. Not be a passenger, but be the reason they won. Or at least one of the reasons they won. Go do it.
Good point on Barkley too.  
mittenedman : 12/4/2022 8:32 am : link
This is easily the most important game of SBs career. I want to see a dog today. If he’s looking for a soft place to fall down, good riddance.
the playoffs have begun  
fkap : 12/4/2022 8:47 am : link
more or less

He's never been in this position before.

Yeah, there's another game next week, win or lose, but hopes of playing more than 17 games diminish a lot with a loss.

However, good performances down the stretch, even if the playoffs are slipping away, can still bolster a pay day future. I don't think DJ has ever looked really bad this year, and I don't expect today to be any different.
RE: So far I’d say so  
JFIB : 12/4/2022 8:57 am : link
In comment 15930187 Tuckrule said:
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If they win then the next game is the biggest game etc. he’s not the type to crumble under pressure. In fact, he plays well in the hurry up and 2 min drill. Looking forward to his performance today but I think they ride saquon similar to the Texans game. I’m expecting close to 30 touches for him today.


I hope that if Saquan looks more like he has for the past two weeks and less like he did earlier in the season, the coaches recognize it and give the bulk of the carry’s to Brieda and Brightwell.
the pressure is really on now  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 8:57 am : link
in a way it's never been before. So, yes this is his biggest game to date. It's the first game he's ever played that had direct playoff implications. The team has also been told that December football is meaningful football, and that that is why they play the game.

Absolutely,without a doubt.  
FStubbs : 12/4/2022 8:58 am : link
Barring another cavalcade of injuries, we'll find out a lot about Jones and Barkley today.
Washington is favored and will have more talent on the field today.  
FStubbs : 12/4/2022 8:59 am : link
Jones needs to put this team on his back and win the ballgame. Period.
Barkley already showed you he is the dealwhen healthy  
Atari2600 : 12/4/2022 9:03 am : link
I don't expect much different today. This team has won with Jones having 17 pass attempts and is one of the most run heavy in the league. I don't expect today to be any different or indicative of anything. Unless something like washingtons secondary totally jv because injury -- the giants and jones especially will be riding Barkley coattails. We have not seen anything different yet this season --why now?
They are all huge games  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/4/2022 9:08 am : link
and I think its great that we had/have this closing last 7 games schedule that is now down 6 with still 4 division games.

He could stink today and then be lights out the next 5. He could be great today and then lose play horrific later in a play and get in game.

Let is all play out imv. In the interim enjoy one or two Jones threads till the end of the season.
It's going to be tough sledding  
Simms11 : 12/4/2022 9:27 am : link
inside today against that Washington front. Barkley needs to stop his tip toeing and get through a crack and break it outside. Going to be an very close game.

Go GMen!
After so many awful years, it is a pleasure to have a meaningful game  
chick310 : 12/4/2022 9:36 am : link
in December for a change. Love the 1pm start-time as well

And yes, the fortunes of Daniel Jones will also continue to play out in some form or fashion later today. A good game may not really signify much, but continuing to put up non-impactful performances almost certainly will.

Hopefully Jones shines and the good guys put up a "W".

I don’t think so.  
CV36 : 12/4/2022 9:37 am : link
I could see the giants losing this game and the the first Eagles game then beating Washington, the Colts and Vikings and building a little momentum at the end when players start coming back from injury. If the eagles have the conference wrapped up the last week maybe even winning that game.
It may be  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2022 9:44 am : link
But if the Giants can run the ball and play defense and they win the game 13-10 with Jones throwing 15 times for 120 yards? I don’t know that kind of win means much for Daniel Jones. He has already shown he can not lose a game where the running game is working and the defense is playing well. What everyone is waiting on is to see if Daniel Jones can be the star of the show when they need him most.

If the Giants can’t run the ball but Jones can make plays to get us to a win, this game can be huge for him. But it is time for him to show he can win when he isn’t along for the ride.
Mike  
cosmicj : 12/4/2022 9:47 am : link
Agree. And I think Jones posting 300 “empty yards” with like 14 points scored doesn’t advance his case either.

Barkley’s hurt. The OL is ailing. Jones needs to overcome all these negatives and generate points. Not easy, for sure, but you don’t get paid $30 million for doing easy things.
RE: I don’t think so.  
FStubbs : 12/4/2022 9:57 am : link
In comment 15930232 CV36 said:
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I could see the giants losing this game and the the first Eagles game then beating Washington, the Colts and Vikings and building a little momentum at the end when players start coming back from injury. If the eagles have the conference wrapped up the last week maybe even winning that game.


The Eagles will play all out if the Giants need to win that game, regardless of where they sit.
RE: Mike  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15930237 cosmicj said:
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Agree. And I think Jones posting 300 “empty yards” with like 14 points scored doesn’t advance his case either.

Barkley’s hurt. The OL is ailing. Jones needs to overcome all these negatives and generate points. Not easy, for sure, but you don’t get paid $30 million for doing easy things.


That is exactly my point. I see posts on here about re-signing Jones if the Giants beat Washington and I am baffled by them. I don’t care what Jones’ stats look like at the end of the game. I want to see a guy make difficult plays to elevate the team. I don’t want to sift through more excuses of “the line didn’t protect well and the receivers didn’t get open, so obviously that isn’t fair to Jones and we should give him a huge contract.”

The guy needs to show the ability to be an above average starter in this league or the team needs to find someone who can be. No more giving him credit when the team wins and no blame when they lose completely absent of any individual analysis. This guy isn’t a rookie learning the NFL game.
RE: Mike  
FStubbs : 12/4/2022 10:00 am : link
In comment 15930237 cosmicj said:
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Agree. And I think Jones posting 300 “empty yards” with like 14 points scored doesn’t advance his case either.

Barkley’s hurt. The OL is ailing. Jones needs to overcome all these negatives and generate points. Not easy, for sure, but you don’t get paid $30 million for doing easy things.


It's on Jones. Washington will absolutely sell out to stop the run and their defensive line can easily do it. Our WRs might be trash but Jones needs to make something happen.
Yes  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2022 10:13 am : link
Because the doubts and attrition will keep coming if they lose and they have games against Vikes and Eagles still to come this month, in essence the bottom could fall out.
110% yes  
JerrysKids : 12/4/2022 10:36 am : link
this is his biggest game and every game following will be the next biggest game. I'm optimistic DJ will do his part but some of the other especially the defense might not show up.
RE: RE: I don’t think so.  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/4/2022 10:37 am : link
In comment 15930249 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15930232 CV36 said:


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I could see the giants losing this game and the the first Eagles game then beating Washington, the Colts and Vikings and building a little momentum at the end when players start coming back from injury. If the eagles have the conference wrapped up the last week maybe even winning that game.



The Eagles will play all out if the Giants need to win that game, regardless of where they sit.


Like they did against Washington a few years ago when it meant the NFC East crown and the playoffs to Washington with the Giants getting in if Washington lost?
Every game until our playoff status  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2022 10:52 am : link
is determined will be the biggest game. And I hate to say this, because it's really gotten old, but the upcoming games, with this OL and cast of receivers will still not give us a clear view of Jones. Unfortunately for him, that's just the way it is, and a decision will have to be made.
I think Daboll and Kafka need to open up to allow defense more flexibi  
MeanBunny : 12/4/2022 11:14 am : link
Running super tight conservative games was OK early on but the defense is just as hobbled and are giving up big scores faster than Jones can land a TD.
And Slayton didn't practice this week?
RE: Every game until our playoff status  
bw in dc : 12/4/2022 11:25 am : link
In comment 15930317 Bill in UT said:
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is determined will be the biggest game. And I hate to say this, because it's really gotten old, but the upcoming games, with this OL and cast of receivers will still not give us a clear view of Jones. Unfortunately for him, that's just the way it is, and a decision will have to be made.


I agree with this, particularly re: this game being no more vital than the next game with the playoffs still in the balance.

Don't get me wrong. Winning today helps in that it creates more distance between us and WC. But it doesn't seal anything yet.
Probably just about every Giant!!!!!  
Carl in CT : 12/4/2022 11:30 am : link
95% haven’t made the playoffs
Yes,  
AcidTest : 12/4/2022 11:38 am : link
it is.
Easily  
PaulN : 12/4/2022 11:39 am : link
And Jones is going to go put there today and win over Giants Nation. He is ready. As Phil Simms famously said, just win the game. Jones can and will go out and win this game for the Giants. And don't let one of those great Eagle recievers get hurt, because if that happens he is going to beat them next. My big worry is their recievers. Maybe Lady Luck will finally pay us back.
Channeling  
Giant volunteer 79 : 12/4/2022 11:57 am : link
my inner Randy Quaid from Major League. It’s not happening boys, pack it in. Losses from here on out. Their all bums.
If it is  
Joe Beckwith : 12/4/2022 1:12 pm : link
He’s flubbed the early grading.
it's early but Jones v. Pressure  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 1:44 pm : link
and things on the line ... no bueno

not a good recipe for championship football
I see -- it's dig a hole and climb out of it  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 1:54 pm : link
football
No bueno  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 4:32 pm : link
!
I though Jones was  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2022 4:44 pm : link
the best player on the Giants' O today. Better play calls at the end of both halves, Slayton hanging onto that long ball and James and Barkley not running into each other on 3rd down and he could have won this game, despite a lousy IOL
Yeah, I just didn’t see that Bill.  
bwitz : 12/4/2022 4:49 pm : link
A franchise QB finds a way to win that game. Jones always seems to come up small when the moment is big.
RE: Yeah, I just didn’t see that Bill.  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2022 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15932228 bwitz said:
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A franchise QB finds a way to win that game. Jones always seems to come up small when the moment is big.


We'll let Sy break the tie :)
RE: I though Jones was  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2022 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15932187 Bill in UT said:
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the best player on the Giants' O today. Better play calls at the end of both halves, Slayton hanging onto that long ball and James and Barkley not running into each other on 3rd down and he could have won this game, despite a lousy IOL


Cutest pig at the mud hole, frankly.
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