mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
with the run d looking like this...he might have to.
mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
nothing sarcastic in it. It just wasn't a good way to start. Put it behind you and lets core!
RE: RE: RE: I'm really tired of all of the sarcastic posts every time DJ makes a
We follow a turnover with a three and out, punctuated by a whiff by Glowinski. (Gates also whiffed on the first drive.) But a lot of the problem was the first down run by Barkley. When he didn't get much it put us an obvious passing situation.
after year we can't get the OL fixed. The interior is horrific, and all we're doing is proving that the shortest distance between two points really is a straight line.
after year we can't get the OL fixed. The interior is horrific, and all we're doing is proving that the shortest distance between two points really is a straight line.
Put Phillips in for Glowinski.
Atleast it is only the interior we are complaining about now. I'd say that is great progress
And though other areas are obvious problems two things stand out to me:
1) we are pretty average rushing the passer..
2) Barkley is back to running very soft. Twice today I have seen him slow up where plowing ahead was the course of action , including turning his back again (ala last season)..
Our execution so far sucks.
Barkley does look a little tentative, and we need an interior OL.
Defense: continually faked out on pitches.
I don't know if Barkley's tentative, but I agree - even on the good design plays like that pitch to the left, the Commanders owned us man on man. No good blocking out there.
on both sides of the ball. This is why I always go back to building the team from the inside out.
People love to talk about receivers, running backs and QBs. Yes the QB is the most important position on the field. However, if you cannot run the ball of stop the run, the team has no shot. We are seeing that now
The biggest game of the year was vs Detroit. Then it was the Dallas game. Now it is this game. If we lose today, next week is the biggest game of the year.
First off every year Giants seem to lose more players to injuries week in and out. Is their Strength and Conditioning coach that bad or teaching something that others in NFL are not and
Secondly given lack of doing anything I thought kiwanukua was already gone for year missing in action
Roster has always sucked this year. Daboll and Wink were able to do some hocus-pocus for a few weeks, but this is the shit team I was expecting from Week 1.
Fumble and 3 and out on offense and give up 3 and 6 on defense. <claps sarcastically>. Way to show up. Gonna get blown out at home by a Heinecke led-team. Just wow.
No fire no energy from the players. It’s disappointing but I saw it coming. I can’t defend DJs fumble it was so critical. It was a epic mistake and maybe the play that ends his career with the Giants. This team better wake up and score a TD right now.
I’m sure it’s cause of the lack of good players but we run the same shit over and over again. How many times have we seen that rollout or the unsuccessful 3rd down play to James?
I’m sure it’s cause of the lack of good players but we run the same shit over and over again. How many times have we seen that rollout or the unsuccessful 3rd down play to James?
On that play, Slayton was running a go all the way down field. I get that the idea was for him to pull defenders down field with him, but it left Jones with no shorter options to throw to other than where the ball went.
Looks like we had someone open in midfield on that dump off.
Looks like the d lineman was in Jones' face right away. You understand when the d line gets through that easy the QB doesn't have time to look go thru progressions, right. If he had turned to look to the middle of the field he would have been sacked, and the field goal likely would have been a punt.
stop, but we almost gave up a third and 13, and on a screen pass. Why does this team always have so much difficulty getting off the field on third and long?
Moreau is 28 years old and he's been playing football for
stop, but we almost gave up a third and 13, and on a screen pass. Why does this team always have so much difficulty getting off the field on third and long?
And to the player you knew they were going to go to
stop, but we almost gave up a third and 13, and on a screen pass. Why does this team always have so much difficulty getting off the field on third and long?
Giants have been struggling with Screen pass plays. Teams are starting to pick up on it.
with that burst he'd still be running if he hadnt reached the endzone.
Don't get people saying it looks like he lost a step, he looked like he was shot out of a cannon on that
agree but has seemed off lately, but he looked like the fastest guy on the field right there. imagine if the line could open holes like that more often.
made a great throw to Slayton who made an equally terrific catch. But this team has no intermediate passing game. Jones is being relentlessly pressured. He has no time to throw. Feliciano and Glowinski are being destroyed. Bellinger has whiffed as well, but I give him a pass because this is his first game back in almost five weeks after a very serious eye injury.
has two minutes and all three time outs. Let's see what he and Kafka can do. No chicken shit runs to Barkley. Plenty of time to work the middle of the field.
i think the contact was mostly incidental...and the pass was way short
could have been holding...i would have been pissed if it was called interference
Ball on 30 with two timeouts and a minute to go….to advance 20 fucking yards and finish with a FG with 2 seconds left. Horribly conservative….playing for a tie
end zone. He’s not fooling anyone with that 3rd down call. At some point they need to let Jones play. If he makes a mistake, he makes a mistake. Too conservative
I think Daboll took the TO because he thought James got the first.
The running to Barkley worked but it was very predictable and conservative. And that third down run by Jones was the same. Daboll either doesn't trust him or the receivers, or both.
they need more points. This D has not been what it was early in the season and we have key guys out. Can't bank on them keeping the score down. The O outside of the terrible fumble is pretty much performing based on the talent imv.
Ball on 30 with two timeouts and a minute to go….to advance 20 fucking yards and finish with a FG with 2 seconds left. Horribly conservative….playing for a tie
if the properly spotted the ball we could have had one or two shots to the end zone. Whoever is spotting the ball needs to wake up.
i was basically gonna say the same thing. Is it him or receivers but he was perfect in the half and your afraid to throw in the end zone once your in FG range?
clear that for a variety of reasons, Daboll and Kafka don't want to throw unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. To varying degrees they don't trust Jones, the WRs, or the OL. The main focus of the offense continues to be Jones and Barkley running, even though teams are now game planning to stop them.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
Barkley runs out of bounds while moving forward. He was not pushed backwards with forward progress stopped before going out of bounds.
So, why did the clock continue to run?
Under 2 minutes in the 1st half and under 5 in the 2nd half the clocks rules change
unfortunately that does not explain it. The time was about 2:05 when Barkley went out of bounds.
That's the point. Up until 2:00 left in the first half, and up until 5:00 in the second, the clock only stops long enough for the ball to be spotted, when a runner goes out of bounds. Then the clock runs.
they need to have two back on the field together if you are going to try and tun this out. Brightwell is capable and a threat when touches the ball. Let's close them out on D!
But why do some assume it is a referendum on Jones?
How about that it says what they think of our OLine and receivers?
The receivers are having a very good game. Slayton made a great play adjusting to that 55 yard pass which was a little underthrown. Blevins made a great play keeping that last drive going with an individual effort to get the first down marker.
Olins is struggling but the receivers are playing well.
RE: Giant took what WSH gave them and got an easy 3pts
before the half and left no time for WSH to get the ball back. Step off the ledge folks.
When you have the ball on the ten with 20 seconds to go, most people would like to see at least a pretend effort at a touchdown in a game that is going to be close.
clear that for a variety of reasons, Daboll and Kafka don't want to throw unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. To varying degrees they don't trust Jones, the WRs, or the OL. The main focus of the offense continues to be Jones and Barkley running, even though teams are now game planning to stop them.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
This game is very winnable.
Acid, they were dropping in cover 3 zone. Do you know what that means?
I think that play call was more about stupid things happening on a pass play there. Sack, maybe there’s a penalty. Who knows. Just take the points because of that bad spot.
won't do it, but I'd like to see Phillips instead of Glowinski. He and Feliciano area a real liability in the passing game, even more than our limited WRs.
There it is people - play call should tell us all we need to know about what they think of DJ
some of you guys who are saying this may be missing a chromosome.
DJ fumbled earlier in the game while running the ball. So, they called a run play for him down there because they dont trust him?? That makes no sense at all. If anything, they would have wanted to take the ball out of his hands.
Maybe they are just shitty play calls. No need to look beyond that. Washington had their secondary standing on the goal line.
clear that for a variety of reasons, Daboll and Kafka don't want to throw unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. To varying degrees they don't trust Jones, the WRs, or the OL. The main focus of the offense continues to be Jones and Barkley running, even though teams are now game planning to stop them.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
This game is very winnable.
Acid, they were dropping in cover 3 zone. Do you know what that means?
I know what it is. We rarely throw, and there is no intermediate passing game. Something should be available since teams are gearing up to stop Barkley with eight man boxes. As I said, the coaches don't trust Jones, the OL, and the WRs, but I'd still like to see less first down running by Barkley.
It was 1 play, lol. It’s funny to an attempt in the end zone means they trust Jones and a run (a Jones run I might add) means they don’t.
You guys are a bunch of whiners.
Don't know who you are addressing but I never said they don't trust Jones. But it's obvious that without 1 attempt at putting the ball in the endzone they don't trust the offense as a whole
It was 1 play, lol. It’s funny to an attempt in the end zone means they trust Jones and a run (a Jones run I might add) means they don’t.
You guys are a bunch of whiners.
Don't know who you are addressing but I never said they don't trust Jones. But it's obvious that without 1 attempt at putting the ball in the endzone they don't trust the offense as a whole
They only had 1 play after getting screwed by the spot. And yeah, with the OL and WRs and Jones not being an elite passer, I’m sure they don’t trust the offense but that’s the whole unit not 1 player.
like an arrow route by Hodgins. Well done. Great run by Jones as well on third down. We are definitely not a modern offense. Tons of running. Very little passing. But we're 7-4 and now ahead 20 - 13.
I don't mind Kenny Albert at all, even with the weird way he side eyes and nods when he's listening on camera.
But every single commentator in the game, they need a strict word budget. Less is more. Don't need to over explain. Don't need a "screenplay about the player's internal monologue" (LOL!). I do realize this is ironic coming from me.
I don't mind Kenny Albert at all, even with the weird way he side eyes and nods when he's listening on camera.
But every single commentator in the game, they need a strict word budget. Less is more. Don't need to over explain. Don't need a "screenplay about the player's internal monologue" (LOL!). I do realize this is ironic coming from me.
too much reliance on Barkley. Breida and Brightwell are fresher. Defenses would also be less likely to key on them, which could open up opportunities in the passing game.
Lousy run blocking there - can't get 2 yards on two runs
too much reliance on Barkley. Breida and Brightwell are fresher. Defenses would also be less likely to key on them, which could open up opportunities in the passing game.
Third and short should dictate a 2 back set.
3 potential ball carriers!
gets four or five yards running on a much more regular basis. This lead won't hold up IMO, especially if Williams can't return. We need to do something on offense.
is down to there third RG, and are still running the ball very effectively. I assume that is partially because their WRs keep us from putting more men in the box.
They held Washington to a FG off the turnover, forced a turnover for a short field, and got a sack to force a long FG after a 3 and out. While being severely undermanned.
Kafka refuses to do anything on first down except run Barkley, which everyone knows is coming. That just puts us behind the chains on a team with no receivers and a bad OL.
Way too conservative and forces the defense to be perfect which they haven't been until today which is why they have been losing recently ,and also way too predictable with his Barkley runs up the middle .
If you are going to be run heavy at least mix it up a little bit
must have Daboll's permission to call all these first down runs to Barkley. I don't care how bad the passing game is, throw the fucking ball on first down at least occasionally. Use Barkley as a decoy.
Even the teams with the very best running backs use the backups. The coaching staff will misuse and overuse Barkley next year. Pass on resigning for me. Of course as soon as I write this he will break one.
I'm beginning to think Kafka is the main reason we never score 30 points in a game. Does he understand that this is essentially a playoff game for the Giants?
I like to use play count (at times) and WFT which they are winning 57-32. Not good with our depth and Williams out. Giants 3 and outs this half are killing them...put D right back on the field.
terrified of DJ turning it over. No other theory makes sense.
Or they are terrified of turning it over because our receivers don't get separation and the QB, whoever it is, has to throw into a very small hole.
The two times they’ve thrown the ball deep the last two weeks Slayton has made tremendous plays on the ball. 90% of windows in the NFL are small. At some point, trust your guys to make plays.
Times of possession was pretty much even at the half. The D gave up an 8 minute drive and a 6:12 drive the last two times Washington had the ball. They have plenty of responsibility for them being worn out.
I'm beginning to think Kafka is the main reason we never score 30 points in a game. Does he understand that this is essentially a playoff game for the Giants?
It's a curious thing, but of the 8 games currently active, most with around 7 minutes remaining, only one team out of sixteen has made it to 30 points.
Detroit has 30, Philly has 28. Lot of low scoring around.
If there is nobody open, do you want him to force it? Throwing it away means nothing. We were punting anyway. Holding it is the right thing to do there.
Let's get filthy rich off this league where we cause crippling injuries and neurological damage in young men but must, at all costs have them behave perfectly between plays
what the Giants have on offense, pretty much nothing. Aside of Barkley, Jones, and maybe Slayton, they have nothing. What they have been doing so far is short of amazing.
I feel like we treated this game like it's a meaningless September out of conference game instead of the game that is going to determine whether or not we make the playoffs this season. First time I've had some real worry about this new regime.
both Daboll and Kafka need to be questioned for how they are coaching this offense . This is Joe Judge level ineptitude and you have a Qb playing well today on top of it
It's a team loss. The D helped to keep the Giants in the game but WAS didn't help themselves with all the penalties in the second half. There is a lot of blame to go around.
half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
this is a great question. it’s like he started the season playing with nothing to lose and didn’t expect to be playing for playoffs, wilting with real pressure.
Daboll and Kafka have been awful for a month now . I dont know who to blame specifically but all the creativity and aggressiveness from beginning of the season is gone. Might as well be Joe Judge coaching at this point
half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
Jones was fine on that drive. Slayton looked like shit.
half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
A blind man can see that second deep pass was an obvious pass to try and get a PI call! It's a cheap way to move the offense. A gamble. Stupid.
RE: Funny to see the posters who wanted Daboll to trust Jones in the first
half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
Fine with them taking a shot on 1st down, the low % 2nd down shot was stupid given the field position and clock situation.
half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
Jones was fine on that drive. Slayton looked like shit.
i agree. its unfortunate that we have to rely on slayton as our #1
Daboll and Kafka have been awful for a month now . I dont know who to blame specifically but all the creativity and aggressiveness from beginning of the season is gone. Might as well be Joe Judge coaching at this point
Coached this like a man that was coaching players to not loss. Very tight, I don’t think I have seen as tight a coaches game. He has nothing to lose. Where is the swagger?
and execution were terrible once again the Giants offense is good for 20 23 points a game. The Giants defense is terrible, they allows Heinicke to carve them, he dinked and dunked the Commies right to td! Oh well, they won 4 more games than last year with a chance for one more win.
Daboll and Kafka have been awful for a month now . I dont know who to blame specifically but all the creativity and aggressiveness from beginning of the season is gone. Might as well be Joe Judge coaching at this point
This is a Joe Judge game...
If you told me a month ago Judge came back and is running the team from upstairs in the booth i would believe it
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
RE: We just never call the right play at the right times
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
I guess you missed the 55 yarder. Because Slayton made a great play on that
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
I guess you missed the 55 yarder. Because Slayton made a great play on that
great play? Every nfl WR makes that catch. great play.
Flushed this game down the toilet with the worst play calling all season. Horrendous, and unforgivable. I will take a long time to get over this bullshit crap. Horrendous is the only word.
RE: RE: KAfka and barkley are the biggest reasons they lose this game
Flushed this game down the toilet with the worst play calling all season. Horrendous, and unforgivable. I will take a long time to get over this bullshit crap. Horrendous is the only word.
They are moving the ball well through the air the entire series but lets do some bullshit with Richie James in the most important snap of the game. Yeah Fuck Kafka
Sorry but jones running qb draws was a fucking joke
Jones has to be able to pass to win games…you can’t run 1000 times
Daboll blew this game
Good grief. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if you have no one who can catch or get open.
Then go out a get a wr
We are in playoff Contention. You pass to be able to pass. We didn’t even throw for 200 yards with 5 quarters of play. Absolutely joke. We go conservative and run qb draws before half and play for a FG. Then second half we stay conservative….next drive throwing ball 40 yards downfield twice
Do you know where this team would be this year without Jones? A two win fucking team. That’s what. Felicano better not be active next week. Set the fucking culture.
Have not been here long?
LMAO
Turn the ball over.
Lol
We still need those QB runs, if this offense is going to have any chance to put up points
Lol
When they were winning
Can save a lot of money asking Tyrod Taylor to fumble on the opening drive instead of DJ.
I'm tired of the senstive ones who make sorry excuses for bad plays. We want him to do well. Don't take it personally.
We don’t want him to fail, he just not good enough to be the Giants qb. He is average.
To start.
Where’s the confidence they once had?
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mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
I'm tired of the senstive ones who make sorry excuses for bad plays. We want him to do well. Don't take it personally.
haven't seen anyone make an excuse?
I really wish they went back to these permanently.
Too easy
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
The guy is a liability in the run game
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mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
with the run d looking like this...he might have to.
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mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
We don’t want him to fail, he just not good enough to be the Giants qb. He is average.
Dude had 6 turnovers in his first 11 games. We don't need to hear how terrible he is every fucking mistake. It's tiring.
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mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
Hey man, I'm pulling for this statline from DJ now:
300+, 2 TDs in the air, 1 on the ground and 1 fumble, no ints. I just don't have much faith in him carrying this team with that statline. Do you?
nothing sarcastic in it. It just wasn't a good way to start. Put it behind you and lets core!
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mistake. A bunch of Giants fans rooting for him to fail.
We don’t want him to fail, he just not good enough to be the Giants qb. He is average.
Dude had 6 turnovers in his first 11 games. We don't need to hear how terrible he is every fucking mistake. It's tiring.
DJ comes up small when you need him. It is simple as that. Still a long way to go, let's see what he's got.
Can we do something on offense besides have Jones and Barkley run the ball? Everyone is geared to stop them. Do something else Kafka.
He fell on it but it was officially a fumble on the stat sheet.
As in Joe Judge broken
Next year, every year.
And the defense!!!
Would be surprised if we win more than 1 game the rest of the year
He looked like Hernandez right there...
Interior O-lineman.
Maybe more than you might expect.
oh no... the wife has other plans for you?
So much to get rowdy over
the line isn't doing him any favors so far. But yeah, I was hoping for that very thing
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by halftime again.
oh no... the wife has other plans for you?
Yes, your wife likes it when I pay attention to her.
Put Phillips in for Glowinski.
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I get that the start was not what was hoped for but it barely sounds like there is a crowd there at all.
I heard boos after that third down screen so they are making some noise.
Terribly executed play
Barkley does look a little tentative, and we need an interior OL.
Defense: continually faked out on pitches.
Put Phillips in for Glowinski.
Atleast it is only the interior we are complaining about now. I'd say that is great progress
It was a 48 yard punt with a 6 yard return. Net 42 yards. What do you consider good.
1) we are pretty average rushing the passer..
2) Barkley is back to running very soft. Twice today I have seen him slow up where plowing ahead was the course of action , including turning his back again (ala last season)..
We ain't giving them shit to cheer for.
Barkley does look a little tentative, and we need an interior OL.
Defense: continually faked out on pitches.
I don't know if Barkley's tentative, but I agree - even on the good design plays like that pitch to the left, the Commanders owned us man on man. No good blocking out there.
true. so did barkley...2 weeks ago.
We’ll be talking more about the Giants draft than the actual game.
on both sides of the ball. This is why I always go back to building the team from the inside out.
People love to talk about receivers, running backs and QBs. Yes the QB is the most important position on the field. However, if you cannot run the ball of stop the run, the team has no shot. We are seeing that now
Nah, we can beat the Colts.
both.
on both sides of the ball.
Don't say it. That would be a disaster.
The biggest game of the year was vs Detroit. Then it was the Dallas game. Now it is this game. If we lose today, next week is the biggest game of the year.
We are nowhere near where we should be
Long game, get it together gmen
I’ll take a 7-10 season at this point. Better draft position.
It would be that play
It's not really close. At full health? We're equal if not better.
Who was looking past them?
I have a feeling Jones is already gone. They’ll probably draft a guy and have him compete with Taylor in camp.
Huge game and Jones opens up by putting the ball on the ground. Sets the tone for the whole day.
But I was told Gettleman did a great job and left the new regime with a ton of talent
We’ll be talking more about the Giants draft than the actual game.
Losing today pretty much starts that
Never works
First off every year Giants seem to lose more players to injuries week in and out. Is their Strength and Conditioning coach that bad or teaching something that others in NFL are not and
Secondly given lack of doing anything I thought kiwanukua was already gone for year missing in action
Exactly. Schemes and strategies simply cannot make up for the fact that you have a roster laden w XFL quality players.
I thought Washington would win pretty easily, but not this way, with no resistance from the Giants.
Terrible.
at least he runs hard and hits the LOS at speed and not tippy tapping
We have pass rushers that simply can't get home... how many games do we give them passes ?
- equal QB
- close at RB
- superior WR
- superior TE
- superior OL
- equal DL
- superior LB
- inferior S
- equal CB
- inferior K
- superior P
Not sure what you're seeing.
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understand the roster that is on the field. BBI is delusional in thinking these players are better then they really are.
Exactly. Schemes and strategies simply cannot make up for the fact that you have a roster laden w XFL quality players.
I understand the roster, but you're a professional sports team..mercy
Yes they can. Still early.
Although you are correct that it was a bad decision, we are losing on the line of scrimmage, not in the secondary.
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Put the nail in this defense. Absolutely awful decision making by Daboll to be doing that AFTER McKinney was hurt.
Although you are correct that it was a bad decision, we are losing on the line of scrimmage, not in the secondary.
+1. It's been this way since basically Baltimore, imho.
you are a hater?
No... we picked up more yards than the penalty would have yielded
Yea the offense has been the bigger problem than the defense imo
Is there no one else?
Is there no one else?
lol um...no. there isn't. sick Slayton maybe?
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or penalty there?
No... we picked up more yards than the penalty would have yielded
...and to think we tried cutting him but he accepted vet minimum.
yeah but it was still a poor play design...
Problem is with the way this interior line is playing they can’t, Jones has no time whatsoever.
Looks like we had someone open in midfield on that dump off.
I'm confused right now
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Problem is with the way this interior line is playing they can’t, Jones has no time whatsoever.
+1. Gates was beaten badly again. Jones wanted to throw down field but didn't have the time to do so.
On that play, Slayton was running a go all the way down field. I get that the idea was for him to pull defenders down field with him, but it left Jones with no shorter options to throw to other than where the ball went.
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Problem is with the way this interior line is playing they can’t, Jones has no time whatsoever.
+1. Gates was beaten badly again. Jones wanted to throw down field but didn't have the time to do so.
Sorry, it was Bellinger.
He was about to get slammed, had no choice
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Looks like we had someone open in midfield on that dump off.
Looks like the d lineman was in Jones' face right away. You understand when the d line gets through that easy the QB doesn't have time to look go thru progressions, right. If he had turned to look to the middle of the field he would have been sacked, and the field goal likely would have been a punt.
are you at the game? you have no idea who is covered.
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or penalty there?
No... we picked up more yards than the penalty would have yielded
yes, the way the official announced the penalty sounded like we took the penalty
The five yard holding penalty was added to the end of the run gain.
sadly....you really dont know what you are looking at
Gotta secret.
Our back 7 can’t tackle.
right??? Jesus, just make a clean catch!
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life.
right??? Jesus, just make a clean catch!
Agree, very frustrating
And to the player you knew they were going to go to
Stop
Big play to that BS
Giants have been struggling with Screen pass plays. Teams are starting to pick up on it.
lol an absolute dime with a guy about to blast him...
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Underthrown
Stop
Looked under thrown to me.
55 and compete though Need 7
And TD Saquon!
Blocking!!!
Slayton Barkley and Jones.
Big hole on the TD run.
He is looking FAST.
with that burst he'd still be running if he hadnt reached the endzone.
Don't get people saying it looks like he lost a step, he looked like he was shot out of a cannon on that
same.
Agree its deceptive watching it
He is fast, he split the D on his earlier big run, turned on the jets and go
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with that burst he'd still be running if he hadnt reached the endzone.
Don't get people saying it looks like he lost a step, he looked like he was shot out of a cannon on that
agree but has seemed off lately, but he looked like the fastest guy on the field right there. imagine if the line could open holes like that more often.
Yes! Now let’s hope they keep doing that!
Yes. Preferably Ezudu
and boom, we start getting creative...
that is why we MUST continue to mix in runs with Jones. It softens the middle of the field and makes our offense more difficult to defend.
this exactly
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Underthrown
Stop
Looked under thrown to me.
55 and compete though Need 7
It was right on the money. The CB made a horrible play on it too
obviously nobody else can tackle
For 55
That penalty, instead of a punt will result in potentially 7 points for them.
Destroying us. Can't imagine if DJ had just one receiver like McLaurin.
Lets fucking go!! Pressure too
I have fios not me
Probably b4 the flag was picked up.
I have it and no problems.
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I have fios not me
Maybe just my area but it cleared up now.
i think the contact was mostly incidental...and the pass was way short
could have been holding...i would have been pissed if it was called interference
Agree. This guy is covering well, just keep your hands off man!! So dumb. Bank on the fact Heinicke is not very accurate!
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Hoping they make some kind of change at halftime
Tho whom? He's the 3rd corner in there because on injury
A shame Adoree is injured, huh.
So, why did the clock continue to run?
So, why did the clock continue to run?
So, why did the clock continue to run?
Under 2 minutes in the 1st half and under 5 in the 2nd half the clocks rules change
The spot
More effort in one play than we’ve seen from Golladay all season
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Hodgins
More effort in one play than we’ve seen from Golladay all season
+1
I thought he was dead at the 22. Fantastic job.
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Barkley runs out of bounds while moving forward. He was not pushed backwards with forward progress stopped before going out of bounds.
So, why did the clock continue to run?
Under 2 minutes in the 1st half and under 5 in the 2nd half the clocks rules change
unfortunately that does not explain it. The time was about 2:05 when Barkley went out of bounds.
you dont think they were sitting back and taking the back end away from us??
Same. Very odd.
That was awful.
Great effort to tie this game at halftime!!!
Team showed a lot of toughness!!!
I thought so too. Weird stuff.
Ball on 30 with two timeouts and a minute to go….to advance 20 fucking yards and finish with a FG with 2 seconds left. Horribly conservative….playing for a tie
he was 10 for 10...
if they don't trust him then they should be done. take a fuckin shot.
They went for 3 and it sucks.
Completely Agree.
The running to Barkley worked but it was very predictable and conservative. And that third down run by Jones was the same. Daboll either doesn't trust him or the receivers, or both.
And bad clock management too.
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I thought so too. Weird stuff.
I was sure that was a 1st down!
Ball on 30 with two timeouts and a minute to go….to advance 20 fucking yards and finish with a FG with 2 seconds left. Horribly conservative….playing for a tie
How about that it says what they think of our OLine and receivers?
Wrong. That’s on the play caller. He fucked up.
Yep, 3 is better than 0.
Yeah should have called for a booth review.
That threw it all off.
Our offense is moving the ball now, 13 pts in their last 3 possessions.
Big balls Daboll from week 1 has disappeared.
they were fucking 10 for 10 on that drive...do you think they knew that?
Yup
Conversely Glowinski is not holding up well in the pass protection.
Hodgson showed something with that extra effort. Slayton continues to step up.
Fabian Moreau just looks over matched, I think he's still battling injures too but is struggling mentally and physically
Jones is playing lights out and making great decisions in the pocket.
Jaylon Smith gets better each week. KT is disruptive every play. Love is co-leader in this defense
Love these uniforms so much.
pc
These threads are fun.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
This game is very winnable.
Likely means who's going to catch it.
Double Slayton or bracket him, who else will scare them over the top? This skill position crew is lacking if you haven't noticed.
are you stable minded? It's not a unknown here that the Giants dont have the offensive weapons to be risky in the endzone.
If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
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Barkley runs out of bounds while moving forward. He was not pushed backwards with forward progress stopped before going out of bounds.
So, why did the clock continue to run?
Under 2 minutes in the 1st half and under 5 in the 2nd half the clocks rules change
unfortunately that does not explain it. The time was about 2:05 when Barkley went out of bounds.
That's the point. Up until 2:00 left in the first half, and up until 5:00 in the second, the clock only stops long enough for the ball to be spotted, when a runner goes out of bounds. Then the clock runs.
How about that it says what they think of our OLine and receivers?
The receivers are having a very good game. Slayton made a great play adjusting to that 55 yard pass which was a little underthrown. Blevins made a great play keeping that last drive going with an individual effort to get the first down marker.
Olins is struggling but the receivers are playing well.
When you have the ball on the ten with 20 seconds to go, most people would like to see at least a pretend effort at a touchdown in a game that is going to be close.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
This game is very winnable.
Acid, they were dropping in cover 3 zone. Do you know what that means?
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it's week fucking 13. if you don't trust your offense in the red zone...just pack it up
are you stable minded? It's not a unknown here that the Giants dont have the offensive weapons to be risky in the endzone.
If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
dude...they didn't even attempt to throw it into the endzone. If nothing is there you can throw it away...
It's not rocket science.
Ya think? Lol. Of course that's what it is.
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it's week fucking 13. if you don't trust your offense in the red zone...just pack it up
are you stable minded? It's not a unknown here that the Giants dont have the offensive weapons to be risky in the endzone.
If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
dude...they didn't even attempt to throw it into the endzone. If nothing is there you can throw it away...
It's not rocket science.
But I just learned that a cover 3 zone is an impenetrable force which cannot be thrown upon.
some of you guys who are saying this may be missing a chromosome.
DJ fumbled earlier in the game while running the ball. So, they called a run play for him down there because they dont trust him?? That makes no sense at all. If anything, they would have wanted to take the ball out of his hands.
Maybe they are just shitty play calls. No need to look beyond that. Washington had their secondary standing on the goal line.
They trust Jones, at least on crossing patterns.
But who is he throwing it to? 86 or Barkley? We have nothing (fast).
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it's week fucking 13. if you don't trust your offense in the red zone...just pack it up
are you stable minded? It's not a unknown here that the Giants dont have the offensive weapons to be risky in the endzone.
If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
dude...they didn't even attempt to throw it into the endzone. If nothing is there you can throw it away...
It's not rocket science.
like...
throw to who? Slayton whos double covered, James where they are setting 2 LB's back in the middle, Hodgson is not fast enough. TE's are used to block
sooo..barkley? that will work ...
Trevor, not Dexter
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clear that for a variety of reasons, Daboll and Kafka don't want to throw unless it is absolutely necessary to do so. To varying degrees they don't trust Jones, the WRs, or the OL. The main focus of the offense continues to be Jones and Barkley running, even though teams are now game planning to stop them.
They also apparently have little interest in letting Breida or Brightwell run the ball, which is a mistake IMO. They could put either in the backfield and split Barkley out wide as a slot receiver.
On defense, somebody besides Moreau has to cover McLaurin, or we at least need to give him safety help. We also need to get more pressure on Heinicke, although we were doing a better job of that near the end of the half.
This game is very winnable.
Acid, they were dropping in cover 3 zone. Do you know what that means?
I know what it is. We rarely throw, and there is no intermediate passing game. Something should be available since teams are gearing up to stop Barkley with eight man boxes. As I said, the coaches don't trust Jones, the OL, and the WRs, but I'd still like to see less first down running by Barkley.
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If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
dude...they didn't even attempt to throw it into the endzone. If nothing is there you can throw it away...
It's not rocket science.
But I just learned that a cover 3 zone is an impenetrable force which cannot be thrown upon.
seriously...did he mention it was a cover 3 zone?
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it's week fucking 13. if you don't trust your offense in the red zone...just pack it up
are you stable minded? It's not a unknown here that the Giants dont have the offensive weapons to be risky in the endzone.
If you know football you'd recognize that they are dropping in cover 3 zone and waiting to make that interception.
get with it dude.
dude...they didn't even attempt to throw it into the endzone. If nothing is there you can throw it away...
It's not rocket science.
It was 1 play, lol. It’s funny to an attempt in the end zone means they trust Jones and a run (a Jones run I might add) means they don’t.
You guys are a bunch of whiners.
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With a bad knee injury it looks like.
Trevor, not Dexter
jeez..
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It was 1 play, lol. It’s funny to an attempt in the end zone means they trust Jones and a run (a Jones run I might add) means they don’t.
You guys are a bunch of whiners.
Don't know who you are addressing but I never said they don't trust Jones. But it's obvious that without 1 attempt at putting the ball in the endzone they don't trust the offense as a whole
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It was 1 play, lol. It’s funny to an attempt in the end zone means they trust Jones and a run (a Jones run I might add) means they don’t.
You guys are a bunch of whiners.
Don't know who you are addressing but I never said they don't trust Jones. But it's obvious that without 1 attempt at putting the ball in the endzone they don't trust the offense as a whole
They only had 1 play after getting screwed by the spot. And yeah, with the OL and WRs and Jones not being an elite passer, I’m sure they don’t trust the offense but that’s the whole unit not 1 player.
Like him..
He showed better vision than Barkley on that run
Very awesome!!!
Gotta keep it going!!!
You've got it backwards, now they don't trust Barkley
He is a beast
I'm sorry what was that?
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great cut!!!!
He showed better vision than Barkley on that run
He's a little narrower, too. Easier to slip through a 20-inch gap.
exactly. I trust Daniel Jones.
If only we could find a way to get Jones 5+ untouched seconds per dropback. :(
Keep it up defense. This is a huge “shut down drive” here. Gotta have a zero and get it back to the offense to pass a lead for once.
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Lol
You've got it backwards, now they don't trust Barkley
LOL...I see what you did there
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If only we could find a way to get Jones 5+ untouched seconds per dropback. :(
is that how long it took hodgins to run that route? seemed like 2 maybe 3
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You've got it backwards, now they don't trust Barkley
Play to play trust is razor thin around here
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I think it is a combo of that, WRs and interior OL. Plus Jones is effective running.
Wasn’t being serious
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If only we could find a way to get Jones 5+ untouched seconds per dropback. :(
Typical moronic post from you.
He is a beast
Defensive mvp this season
But every single commentator in the game, they need a strict word budget. Less is more. Don't need to over explain. Don't need a "screenplay about the player's internal monologue" (LOL!). I do realize this is ironic coming from me.
But every single commentator in the game, they need a strict word budget. Less is more. Don't need to over explain. Don't need a "screenplay about the player's internal monologue" (LOL!). I do realize this is ironic coming from me.
That’s why I watch but listen to banks and papa
Anyone see the injury?
i agree with that
ILB has been a black hole for years
if it's Daniel Jones...yes
Terry will embarrass these corners if they try to jam and run with him. they are playing a good amount of zone as well
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Might be the most underrated WR in the league.
i agree with that
+2. Every time I see him, he's making plays.
I think that was a fumble as well.
A block in the back?
A block in the back?
Didn’t look like it
Agreed.
Just said the same thing
I thought the Olineman caught it
what holes?
If there is actually a hole. If not you wait. Thats what you do
NFL.com says sacks and fumble.
No rest for the defense
Agreed !!
Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite us..
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Quicker
what holes?
He's going down way to easy tho. Grind your legs for an extra yard.
Or let the other guys grind
Something
Right and on 3rd down, we have nobody open for a 3 yard pass.
Barkley was a pussy on that run. He needed to be a dick and slam that hole hard
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Quicker
what holes?
He's going down way to easy tho. Grind your legs for an extra yard.
Or let the other guys grind
Something
dont move the goal post. What you referenced was something else completely and has nothing to do with hitting the hole faster.
No rest for the defense
That was not good complementary football. D in a ax spot now.
With Barkley
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wouldn't mind seeing more breida or brightwell on the next series
With Barkley
sure. Killer B's
Papa and banks blasting tgen for that
Third and short should dictate a 2 back set.
3 potential ball carriers!
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and two and we don't convert in two plays. The second down run to Barkley was again too predictable.
Papa and banks blasting tgen for that
Keep being way too conservative
Wishg we had more Love on the team. No pun intended
foriegn concept. Jones and Barkley wouldn't know what to do if our Oline blocked.
We really need a stop here on this drive.
was getting his neck looked at
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Leonard Williams (neck) return is questionable. #Giants
They just showed him on tv getting his neck worked on.
Wasn't he limited in practice with a neck injury?
Us up
Momentum now with Washington
bye week???? LOL
if you say it they will come :-)
By Big Dex!
Great open field tackles today, right?
Gotta give D a blow!
Lets go offense!!!
are you blind?
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Great open field tackles today, right?
Love him. I think Belichick would have loved him on the old Giants' defenses he used to coordinate.
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Great open field tackles today, right?
Love him. I think Belichick would have loved him on the old Giants' defenses he used to coordinate.
Absolutely!
i think we have bigger needs, but they could use a 4th or something on one.
Need to be aggressive on offense.
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To win this
are you blind?
They held Washington to a FG off the turnover, forced a turnover for a short field, and got a sack to force a long FG after a 3 and out. While being severely undermanned.
We also need Wrs .... and Interior Olinemen ... and linebackers while I am at it.
Just letting down the team down now
It’s pathetic and really frustrating
when it’s only ever been a possibility under the playoff format for a couple years.
Suck mode
Kafka refuses to do anything on first down except run Barkley, which everyone knows is coming. That just puts us behind the chains on a team with no receivers and a bad OL.
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Great open field tackles today, right?
Hell yes - I think I counted at least 3 1 on 1 textbook open field tackles.
If you are going to be run heavy at least mix it up a little bit
With first down -1 by Saquon
Kafka too busy studying for his HC interviews i guess.
And we get that shit?
Could have put Washington into huge hole.
Giants offense digging its own hole.
Put in fresh legs!!!
With first down -1 by Saquon
They run on 1st an almost ridiculous amount especially when it gets tight
You better believe this is Daboll's gameplan
One time!
But we need a quarterback. Like, one that throws the ball
Get a grip dude.
For sure this is Joe Judge level fear.
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the way Barkley runs.
Put in fresh legs!!!
Give me a break. Barkley runs 1-2 times per series. He has fresh legs.
Make some damn holes for him..
But we need a quarterback. Like, one that throws the ball
You do realize he has been practically perfect throwing it today.
We couldn’t run screens before Tiki
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the way Barkley runs.
Put in fresh legs!!!
THIS! Guarantee we'd get at least one first down.
I'm beginning to think Kafka is the main reason we never score 30 points in a game. Does he understand that this is essentially a playoff game for the Giants?
That's true and very strange considering all the head coaches we've had.
Told yall he's making business decisions for the rest of the year
Yall said I was crazy
That penalty
Or they are terrified of turning it over because our receivers don't get separation and the QB, whoever it is, has to throw into a very small hole.
I like to use play count (at times) and WFT which they are winning 57-32. Not good with our depth and Williams out. Giants 3 and outs this half are killing them...put D right back on the field.
Really, why?
That's exactly it,and I thought Judge's new job was with Boston Demolitions
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Not sure its quite that bad
That's exactly it,and I thought Judge's new job was with Boston Demolitions
Get some points and make this chump throw
No shit. Please!
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terrified of DJ turning it over. No other theory makes sense.
Or they are terrified of turning it over because our receivers don't get separation and the QB, whoever it is, has to throw into a very small hole.
The two times they’ve thrown the ball deep the last two weeks Slayton has made tremendous plays on the ball. 90% of windows in the NFL are small. At some point, trust your guys to make plays.
To make a few plays here!
Something we've not been able to do this entire half.
Get a FG and the game is over.
It will be wide open
I think he finally learned his lesson
Yes it has
I'm not going to be happy until Jones is 25 of 20 passing.
Times of possession was pretty much even at the half. The D gave up an 8 minute drive and a 6:12 drive the last two times Washington had the ball. They have plenty of responsibility for them being worn out.
In suck mode
I'm beginning to think Kafka is the main reason we never score 30 points in a game. Does he understand that this is essentially a playoff game for the Giants?
It's a curious thing, but of the 8 games currently active, most with around 7 minutes remaining, only one team out of sixteen has made it to 30 points.
Detroit has 30, Philly has 28. Lot of low scoring around.
Didn't he do that 2 years ago too?
no.
a 3rd round pick who is younger, cheaper,and runs harder then Barkley
If there is nobody open, do you want him to force it? Throwing it away means nothing. We were punting anyway. Holding it is the right thing to do there.
Is Joe Judge mode.
At exactly the wrong time.
And in great field position too!
a 3rd round pick who is younger, cheaper,and runs harder then Barkley
he gets more yards because washington has receivers that actually need to be covered. this idiocy needs to stop
Not sure about that. They’re in a playoff race and not like the Giants offense is a powerhouse
not nearly as pathetic as a grown man who runs across the field to flex his biceps and costs his team a win.
according to the new rules that was ABOLUTELY the wrong thing to do!!
Stupid stupid stupid
6 minutes left and they call that?
And that bad spot at the half. Ref making some mula on the side.
it was a bs call...but why even give them a reason? what has JF ever done to flex like that?
He stinks... get over it.
he was flexing supporting Slayton and his strength for fighting to get the 1st down.
come the fuck on.
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is Exhibit A why you pass on re-signing Barkley.
a 3rd round pick who is younger, cheaper,and runs harder then Barkley
he gets more yards because washington has receivers that actually need to be covered. this idiocy needs to stop
He’s also a very good runningback who is always picking up positive yards even when he’s contacted early
Very dislikeable part of the NFL. Stupid rule.
third game in a row
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is Exhibit A why you pass on re-signing Barkley.
a 3rd round pick who is younger, cheaper,and runs harder then Barkley
he gets more yards because washington has receivers that actually need to be covered. this idiocy needs to stop
No he gets more yards because he doesn't tap dance and he runs through contact
you people are not smart.
Dumbass is not the word, he deserves a Daboll sideline grilling....
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that Jones will never do enough for some fans.
He stinks... get over it.
lol is this real?
Yep they’d have thrown the flag if the receiver was the defender
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99% of the time taunts result in nothing but old owners getting their panties in a bunch have ruined the fucking game.
+ infinity.
They were in FG range at that point. Amazing how these guys can be so stupid.
not nearly as pathetic as a grown man who runs across the field to flex his biceps and costs his team a win.
Yeah, right, you expect our receivers to get separation in 1 second?
it is. but the refs bet wash
Spit the bit
Zero first downs in last 3 (4?) drives?
Just terrible play
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Washington brought the house. Somebody must have had an edge. Jones can’t process quick enough
Yeah, right, you expect our receivers to get separation in 1 second?
Jones is perfect on the day except for the spike and you have assholes like this
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99% of the time taunts result in nothing but old owners getting their panties in a bunch have ruined the fucking game.
+ infinity.
They were in FG range at that point. Amazing how these guys can be so stupid.
not nearly as pathetic as a grown man who runs across the field to flex his biceps and costs his team a win.
he was flexing to support Slayton.
really annoying you guys dont have the critical thinking skills to know the difference here.
Yep
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Washington brought the house. Somebody must have had an edge. Jones can’t process quick enough
Yeah, right, you expect our receivers to get separation in 1 second?
Jones is perfect on the day except for the spike and you have assholes like this
For how many yards? How many first downs n the second half? The defense is playing lights out a stud offense is dead.
But high completion percentage! Yay!
Over our Joe Judge offense.
Ineptitude at a very high level.
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Washington brought the house. Somebody must have had an edge. Jones can’t process quick enough
Yeah, right, you expect our receivers to get separation in 1 second?
Jones is perfect on the day except for the spike and you have assholes like this
For how many yards? How many first downs n the second half? The defense is playing lights out a stud offense is dead.
But high completion percentage! Yay!
Without Slayton making a great play they’d be averaging 4.7 yards an attempt
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Being tentative? I know he doesn’t have big lanes but not hitting the hole hard.
I noted that earlier on game discussions.
third game in a row
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Washington brought the house. Somebody must have had an edge. Jones can’t process quick enough
Yeah, right, you expect our receivers to get separation in 1 second?
Jones is perfect on the day except for the spike and you have assholes like this
For how many yards? How many first downs n the second half? The defense is playing lights out a stud offense is dead.
But high completion percentage! Yay!
And he's leading the team in rushing. Yay! How about expecting something from another player too at some point
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99% of the time taunts result in nothing but old owners getting their panties in a bunch have ruined the fucking game.
+ infinity.
They were in FG range at that point. Amazing how these guys can be so stupid.
not nearly as pathetic as a grown man who runs across the field to flex his biceps and costs his team a win.
he was flexing to support Slayton.
really annoying you guys dont have the critical thinking skills to know the difference here.
There is no difference, it's still a penalty
We should cut him!
Veteran player that sucks and then does something stupid like that to knock us out of field goal range. What a moron. I'd be fine with this.
with what receivers?
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not have come to this. I love Daboll as the coach, but we played scared on offense. Lack creativity with the commander keying the run.
with what receivers?
No TE's either
dumb penalty.
soft running.
how about we cut you instead?
It’s a tie game
3 and out.
Oh and fuck you Xavier Mckinny....
Blame the defense BUT, the offense could have put this game away three times here in the second half! Now you have to win it with the offense!
+1
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getting to the Qb
We should cut him!
Pointing out facts means he should be cut ?
this
Oy veh
Playing like absolute PUSSIES!!!
was jones out there as a cornerback on that drive? didn’t see that.
Maybe on that drive, but not the game
Blame the defense BUT, the offense could have put this game away three times here in the second half! Now you have to win it with the offense!
Especially after McKinney hurt himself on break
With their center out too
Bag of shit
jesus...he's the only guy on offense
your a special kind of retard
He’s got a mediocre roster to 7-4 with a chance to be 8-4.
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and we wonder why we can't score 30 points.
your a special kind of retard
You’re*
3 and out
And his receivers are a heck of a lot more open. Bitch about Jones all you want, but if you don't see the difference you're not looking.
That 3 and out hurts….
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Sorry, but it’s true.
And his receivers are a heck of a lot more open. Bitch about Jones all you want, but if you don't see the difference you're not looking.
Go ahead and give him $30M per year.
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and we wonder why we can't score 30 points.
your a special kind of retard
How special?
Please, elaborate.
the ball hit him in his fucking hands
Yeah. Too bad we don't have a big softy bitch WR #19?
Just fuck off, youre an idiot.
Thibs needs to show up. Tired of almost..
Yep. Can’t say that around here though.
Because he dropped the fucking ball!
His great play earlier in the game that’s like 60% of our passing yards doesn’t count anymore?
Just fuck off, youre an idiot.
You so quick to suck coaches dick that walks through that door, that is why we keep hiring the same bumbs over and over.
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Will say Slayton needed to make "a heroic catch." Or the ball "was at his ankles" Or he was going full speed.
the ball hit him in his fucking hands
The ball went through Barkley's hands too. That didn't stop them.
That 3rd and 10 play was something he's been doing since college
Slightly overthrown, but he got two hands on it. You HAVE to catch that.
The other two throws from Jones were trash, but NFL WR's have to hold onto that.
Are you surprised?
They should have gone for Peters / McDaniels
They should have gone for Peters / McDaniels
LOL. Because the Raiders are just thriving?
BBI wanted Kafka to "open it up".
They got their wish.
A ball that hit Slayton in his hands is a low chance throw ?
Horrible play calling
Running qb draws and then wants to throw 50 yards down field back to back plays
Joke
This is on the head coach, another phony.
They should have gone for Peters / McDaniels
I can't believe you've been here since 2006. I thought this was going to be a 12/2022 account.
Heinicke has made some terrible throws today but his receivers are 10x better . Doesn't matter to the Jones haters though
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The luster is off.
They should have gone for Peters / McDaniels
Dolphins coach. McDaniel. Sorry this game has made me drink.
LOL. Because the Raiders are just thriving?
but we were not going to be in FG range
The only reason they’ve won 7 games is the coaching staff.
Showed the desperation of Daboll and Kafka
Total rookie coaching fuck ups
Total
I think that's about five for the game.
Seems like that would open up the QB run as well
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Lmao
A ball that hit Slayton in his hands is a low chance throw ?
Downfield throws are low percentage plays. Always have been.
this is a great question. it’s like he started the season playing with nothing to lose and didn’t expect to be playing for playoffs, wilting with real pressure.
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good to these qb gurus
Heinicke has made some terrible throws today but his receivers are 10x better . Doesn't matter to the Jones haters though
Jones was fine on that drive. Slayton looked like shit.
Did we have today?
A dozen?
A blind man can see that second deep pass was an obvious pass to try and get a PI call! It's a cheap way to move the offense. A gamble. Stupid.
Fine with them taking a shot on 1st down, the low % 2nd down shot was stupid given the field position and clock situation.
This is his first career game lol
To start with the ball in over time???
What coaching
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half to go get a touchdown now want to fire Daboll/Kafka because they were trying to complete a few passes downfield to go win the game in regulation. Do you trust Jones or not? Insane.
Jones was fine on that drive. Slayton looked like shit.
i agree. its unfortunate that we have to rely on slayton as our #1
From Wisconsin
This is a Joe Judge game...
Exactly
100% agree
What coaching
Shut up dumbass. The first ball should have been caught. Such assholes on this site
You are legit my favorite member of this site.
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They throw deep 3 times when they did not throw deep all game
What coaching
Shut up dumbass. The first ball should have been caught. Such assholes on this site
Blame the QB
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They throw deep 3 times when they did not throw deep all game
What coaching
Shut up dumbass. The first ball should have been caught. Such assholes on this site
But it wasn't. The next pass was a true head scratcher. Why!!!!
Agreed.
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Daboll and Kafka have been awful for a month now . I dont know who to blame specifically but all the creativity and aggressiveness from beginning of the season is gone. Might as well be Joe Judge coaching at this point
This is a Joe Judge game...
If you told me a month ago Judge came back and is running the team from upstairs in the booth i would believe it
Showed the desperation of Daboll and Kafka
Total rookie coaching fuck ups
Total
If they had just handed off to Barkley or threw short passes you'd complain they didn't throw down the field.
In the pocket at least, I’ve seen fat girls make quicker decisions at the cake counter
They better win this one. They aren't beating Philly.
i don’t know which one you’re talking about but i agree.
Interior o-lineman and DTs
So much for that.
wrong!!
I would have subbed for him in the 3rd. he's running soft. we needed to loosen Washington up with some hard runs.
How do you call that shitty Barkley play ( he hasn't run strong and we have been awful pulling and in power) and then third down just awful..
Now our Punter is trash!
The Giants punter
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i don’t know which one you’re talking about but i agree.
LOL
what would you have him do there? heave it up?
It does not matter what anyone here thinks. The Giants will let us know this off season by their actions
So much for the "Scottish Hammer"
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
Is safe save out OTs
Always excuses for Jones.
He sucks. Face facts.
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can barely catch
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
Kafka has been calling shit games for WEEKS now.
Same OL that got them to 7-2 is it not?
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can barely catch
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
I guess you missed the 55 yarder. Because Slayton made a great play on that
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can barely catch
You must have missed the game today. The receivers are fine. One catch they could have made it didn’t because Jones almost completely missed a guy standing all by himself.
I watched every play Mike. They don't make plays, they don't get open, and they drop a lot of balls. That's the bottom line.
I guess you missed the 55 yarder. Because Slayton made a great play on that
great play? Every nfl WR makes that catch. great play.
lets be fair... this defense let them drive down to the 40 quicky
Not the same blocking
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the line of scrimmage. Tom Brady would get killed with this line
Same OL that got them to 7-2 is it not?
All one score games. Like today
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Anybody who wants Barkley back after the way he has played the last month is nuts. A 3rd round pick will do better next season
Not the same blocking
The QB as well, dont forget the most important position on the field.
Kafka calls the O plays genius.
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albatross offense now trots onto the field.
lets be fair... this defense let them drive down to the 40 quicky
defense has gotten it done today missing two of its best players in the secondary.
These fucking guys cannot do anything...
Yeah let’s have Richie James in the most critical play of the game
That’s on James. He’s supposed to be behind
That you Joe Judge?
That you Joe Judge?
JOE FUCKING JUDGE SHIT.
EMBARRASSING.
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That’s on James. He’s supposed to be behind
They are moving the ball well through the air the entire series but lets do some bullshit with Richie James in the most important snap of the game. Yeah Fuck Kafka
Giants ran into one another
Let the ineptitude roll
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Wow. What a fucking waste of time.
That you Joe Judge?
JOE FUCKING JUDGE SHIT.
EMBARRASSING.
This offense deserve the L
His worst game calling plays... and he had a real bad one a few weeks ago
tie. Wow.
[quote] a saftey to win would have been something. [/quote
It was close!
yep. unbelievably stupid.
No, he had to maintain his lane. It was Thibs that fucked up that run
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10 seconds left on the play clock! let them run the play and call it after that play
yep. unbelievably stupid.
He called it earlier and they gave back the time.
Phew
they better. wash the stink of this game off the team.
get a FG.
The wound thr clock back to 1:26 from 1:10
Fuck you ass
unreal.
Jones has to be able to pass to win games…you can’t run 1000 times
Daboll blew this game
are you serious??
Lol 58 yards is a historic distance.
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Fuck em both
Fuck you ass
They have been awful for a month now. Sorry truth hurts Mrs. Daboll
LOL, really? It looked like shit right off the foot
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
Jones has to be able to pass to win games…you can’t run 1000 times
Daboll blew this game
Good grief. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if you have no one who can catch or get open.
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
are you serious??
+1
They put the time back on the clock.
No, the refs messed up. The timeout was called after the play. They put time back on the clock
Actually, the whole NFCE could go and the tie makes that more likely.
Isn't watering-down wonderful.
I agree. Why did they go to 10 minutes for OT again?
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Sorry but jones running qb draws was a fucking joke
Jones has to be able to pass to win games…you can’t run 1000 times
Daboll blew this game
Good grief. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if you have no one who can catch or get open.
Then go out a get a wr
We are in playoff Contention. You pass to be able to pass. We didn’t even throw for 200 yards with 5 quarters of play. Absolutely joke. We go conservative and run qb draws before half and play for a FG. Then second half we stay conservative….next drive throwing ball 40 yards downfield twice
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
hits 63 against us with a plenty left but 5 yards short on 58? pathetic.
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Sorry but jones running qb draws was a fucking joke
Jones has to be able to pass to win games…you can’t run 1000 times
Daboll blew this game
Good grief. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if you have no one who can catch or get open.
When they didn’t pick up a receiver when they could Schoen kissed the season goodbye.
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
hits 63 against us with a plenty left but 5 yards short on 58? pathetic.
5 years ago..
100%. They add an extra game to seventeen and they continue with the hideous Thursday product.
Yet the league is worried about an extra five minutes in OT.
Just a joke...
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
hits 63 against us with a plenty left but 5 yards short on 58? pathetic.
5 years ago..
he's the 4th highest paid kicker in the league. make the kick or gtfo
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
hits 63 against us with a plenty left but 5 yards short on 58? pathetic.
Far from pathetic. The chances of hitting a 58 yarder are NOT automatic just because he got LUCKY hitting a 63 yarder 5 years ago.
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fuck you gano short from 58 wtf
You think 58 yards is a chip shot? 😏
hits 63 against us with a plenty left but 5 yards short on 58? pathetic.
Far from pathetic. The chances of hitting a 58 yarder are NOT automatic just because he got LUCKY hitting a 63 yarder 5 years ago.
he was at least 8 yards short. so he would've been short from 50 which is sad for an NFL kicker to miss for a game winner