Offensive playcalling was horrible. Even worse when we had the lead.
Defense going to strange 3 man rush when Ximenes was sent jogging to center from Thibs side.
Need to draft QB, WR, CB, OG and MLB. Were are 2 years from competing, re-building is killing me.
I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
You know, that was the funny thing. That's exactly what I said to my wife, so why was there a penalty? My wife said he may have also said something that of course we couldn't hear.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
against the hottest team in the league. We could have won but we didn't lose. We're playing meaningful games in December. Enjoy.
I agree with this statement but with two caveats:
(1) There was nothing enjoyable today about watching the Giants offense, especially in the second half;
(2) I would enjoy this team a lot more if I was still rooting for the same team through Week 7 against Jax. But this is not the same team with all the crazy injuries.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
There is no way we offer a decent FA contract to a guy who drops more balls than any other wr in the nfl
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
Agree, amazing that we went into season with this group on paper:
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
As the season has progressed, I think the chances of a full tear down with Jones and Barkley not returning has gone up significantly. My point being that the assets they have will be used to get a QB in the draft.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
As the season has progressed, I think the chances of a full tear down with Jones and Barkley not returning has gone up significantly. My point being that the assets they have will be used to get a QB in the draft.
Jones carried the O today and Barkley is obviously hurt. Got anything else?
There is no way we offer a decent FA contract to a guy who drops more balls than any other wr in the nfl
I never said anything about Slayton's compensation. If he is as bad as everyone says, then the other teams will think the same and we can get him cheap.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
Agree, amazing that we went into season with this group on paper:
I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
Our interior offensive line was knocked 3 yards into the backfield on 80% of the snaps, our best receiver is most teams #3 or #4 receiver and that one of our starting corners was on the practice squad last week, I thought they held up well. They just don’t have enough quality personnel yet.
There a lot of tough decisions coming for next year, quarterback,running back, but if they don’t fix the offensive line and get somebody to throw to it won’t matter, plus another starting corner.
Nobody saw this team playing meaningful games in December, they overachieved early and now have come back to earth, plus have had too many players out with injuries.
One more offseason with money to spend and one more good draft, then hopefully a year with less injuries.
I for one am happy to have a team playing for something this time of year.
Happy Holidays!
I guess I’m just a glass half full guy. I think we have the GM, the coaches and a base to build on.
Continues to infuriate me. They 100% were playing for the field goal before halftime. What did they use their first timeout with 30 seconds left? Horrible. Same thing they did against Dallas
Jones carried the O today and Barkley is obviously hurt. Got anything else?
Huh? I wasn’t being critical of Jones. I was just responding to the idea of the Giants bringing in a bunch of new receivers. I don’t foresee that because I think they’re tearing it down this offseason.
As this season has progressed, this looks very similar to Sean McDonough’s first year in BUF.
RE: Feliciano probably cost us the W in regulation
I was just responding to the idea of the Giants bringing in a bunch of new receivers. I don’t foresee that because I think they’re tearing it down this offseason.
I dont see Schoen tearing the team down. No way the fans are going to accept going backwards after finally having some success.
They will continue to build and will have to make some tough decisions, but they are NOT going to sacrifice next season. Not happening.
I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
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It was a penalty, you can't run 20 yards across the field,
and flex in front of three players, just stupid by a veteran player too! As Parcells likes to say, 'stupid players make stupid mistakes'.
It's true, he's right...
I was just responding to the idea of the Giants bringing in a bunch of new receivers. I don’t foresee that because I think they’re tearing it down this offseason.
I dont see Schoen tearing the team down. No way the fans are going to accept going backwards after finally having some success.
They will continue to build and will have to make some tough decisions, but they are NOT going to sacrifice next season. Not happening.
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They are still rebuilding, needs more players, still too many holes on this team. They are not a playoff team,
but actually could get there? This game ending was deflating a bit, but overall I was hoping for 7 wins, can't complain too much if they don't make playoffs.
Its amazing how much closer a tie feels to a loss than a win
I was actually sanguine watching the game. I thought WFT was going to pull it out.
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Once it went to OT, I agree with you. The Giants last drive in regulation was abysmal. TWO long bombs, and another incompletion. This with 3 timeouts, and 1:45 on the clock?
I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
Stupid for him to even being running down field doing that in that situation. But, you can see in the replays that he is looking at Slayton and runs right past the three Washington defenders. Even they didn't flinch as they would have if they thought he was directing it at them. I'm sorry, but this is where the refs are overly calling the game.
Love, the only starter, looked like Ronnie Lott out there. And Fabian Moreau, who was on a practice squad to begin the season, was assigned primary coverage on McLaurin. The rest of the players could barely keep up.
The fact that Wink was able to coax the unit into only allowing 20 points is incredible. Hats off to the guy.
Ojulari. I was expecting the guy to do nothing and play a small number of plays. Instead, he had a really strong game. He will help turn that front 7 into a force.
Even with several gaping talent gaps (does Jaylon Smith still have enough speed to play in the league?), this unit is an emerging force.
But the Daboll from Week One seemed to be gone today
Nope.
It’s almost never one play over 60 minutes.
This game is on our terrible offense 100% if you are looking for someone / some thing to blame this mess of a game on.
This. The penalty was also questionable. Our offense acts under the belief that it is illegal to score more than 21 points in a game. The third and 3 play exemplified it. Wonder who is at fault on that. Now I know why Kafka calla vanilla games: the players are simpletons.
is going to be tough to take. We need Brederson and Ezeudu back so we can put Gates at center. Feliciano needs a seat on the bench. If they play this conservatively, it’s going to get ugly.
But it was spectacularly stupid and actually one of the knocks against him when we signed him. Having a ten point lead late in the 4th would’ve been pretty nice.
Agreed. Didn't cost them the game, but it was an incredibly stupid penalty.
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did [/quote]
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
I think they can get two quality WRs this offseason and that will be a huge help.
In comment 15932191 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke. [/quote]
Ok, but I really think the play calling sucked - absolutely sucked in the 2nd half. Poor situational play calling. They kept trying to run Barkley and he kept getting stopped. No change of play calling. How many rollouts did they call in the 2nd half. I do not remember any and it was killing the WTFs in the 1st half.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
I think they can get two quality WRs this offseason and that will be a huge help.
What types though? Slot receivers? Tall contested-catch guys? Speedsters?
Is the most pressing need for this offense. After that, playmakers are needed at every position. Bellinger is a keeper but TE needs more. The rest of the playmakers all need upgrades. You can’t fix them all in one offseason, but there is nobody outside of the tackles that this offense can lose without being replaced. The rest of the talent is marginal.
Is the most pressing need for this offense. After that, playmakers are needed at every position. Bellinger is a keeper but TE needs more. The rest of the playmakers all need upgrades. You can’t fix them all in one offseason, but there is nobody outside of the tackles that this offense can lose without being replaced. The rest of the talent is marginal.
I agree but the talent vacuum at MLB is deep like the ocean.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: When I watch and don’t see much difference between Jones & Heinicke
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke. [/quote]
Mike, I usually agree with you. However, Heinecke has a much better cadre of receivers than Jones.
came down to a taunting penalty hat should never have been called. Aly other discussion really just ignores the fact that the NFL allowed a game to be decided by a guy flexing who didn't even do it to show up the opponent, Any other discussion is only to push a narrative that doesn't exist for this game
pass at mid field to Slayton was a drop needs to re watch. Jones’s throw could have been better (typical), but Slayton went up as high as he could and couldn’t maintain body control coming down. It was a high level play he didn’t make. Not on the level of his usual drops.
came down to a taunting penalty hat should never have been called. Aly other discussion really just ignores the fact that the NFL allowed a game to be decided by a guy flexing who didn't even do it to show up the opponent, Any other discussion is only to push a narrative that doesn't exist for this game
The game came down to the offense continually going three and out. The idea he did it to Slayton is just conjecture. The loss isn’t on the refs or the NFL.
pass at mid field to Slayton was a drop needs to re watch. Jones’s throw could have been better (typical), but Slayton went up as high as he could and couldn’t maintain body control coming down. It was a high level play he didn’t make. Not on the level of his usual drops.
came down to a taunting penalty hat should never have been called. Aly other discussion really just ignores the fact that the NFL allowed a game to be decided by a guy flexing who didn't even do it to show up the opponent, Any other discussion is only to push a narrative that doesn't exist for this game
He runs 10 yards down the field to flex his muscles at a couple of players? What kind of stupid shit is that? He should have been penalized for stupidity.
came down to a taunting penalty hat should never have been called. Aly other discussion really just ignores the fact that the NFL allowed a game to be decided by a guy flexing who didn't even do it to show up the opponent, Any other discussion is only to push a narrative that doesn't exist for this game
The game came down to the offense continually going three and out. The idea he did it to Slayton is just conjecture. The loss isn’t on the refs or the NFL.
LOL. We literally were in FG range until the refs called taunting.
Is your hatred of Jones so strong that you don't even know what the fuck happened??
Defense going to strange 3 man rush when Ximenes was sent jogging to center from Thibs side.
Need to draft QB, WR, CB, OG and MLB. Were are 2 years from competing, re-building is killing me.
Your point is a fair one.
And also, people will get sick of 'just happy to be here' very quickly.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
You know, that was the funny thing. That's exactly what I said to my wife, so why was there a penalty? My wife said he may have also said something that of course we couldn't hear.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
That is not possible. Some people are not happy unless they are miserable.
Draft capital to the LOS, both sides of the ball.
I agree with this statement but with two caveats:
(1) There was nothing enjoyable today about watching the Giants offense, especially in the second half;
(2) I would enjoy this team a lot more if I was still rooting for the same team through Week 7 against Jax. But this is not the same team with all the crazy injuries.
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
There is no way we offer a decent FA contract to a guy who drops more balls than any other wr in the nfl
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
Agree, amazing that we went into season with this group on paper:
- KG
- Toney
- Robinson
And today its:
- Slayton
- Hodgkins
- James
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
As the season has progressed, I think the chances of a full tear down with Jones and Barkley not returning has gone up significantly. My point being that the assets they have will be used to get a QB in the draft.
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
As the season has progressed, I think the chances of a full tear down with Jones and Barkley not returning has gone up significantly. My point being that the assets they have will be used to get a QB in the draft.
Jones carried the O today and Barkley is obviously hurt. Got anything else?
There is no way we offer a decent FA contract to a guy who drops more balls than any other wr in the nfl
I never said anything about Slayton's compensation. If he is as bad as everyone says, then the other teams will think the same and we can get him cheap.
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Actually, Shepard was starting over Robinson
is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
Agree, amazing that we went into season with this group on paper:
- KG
- Toney
- Robinson
And today its:
- Slayton
- Hodgkins
- James
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
There a lot of tough decisions coming for next year, quarterback,running back, but if they don’t fix the offensive line and get somebody to throw to it won’t matter, plus another starting corner.
Nobody saw this team playing meaningful games in December, they overachieved early and now have come back to earth, plus have had too many players out with injuries.
One more offseason with money to spend and one more good draft, then hopefully a year with less injuries.
I for one am happy to have a team playing for something this time of year.
Happy Holidays!
I guess I’m just a glass half full guy. I think we have the GM, the coaches and a base to build on.
Jones carried the O today and Barkley is obviously hurt. Got anything else?
Huh? I wasn’t being critical of Jones. I was just responding to the idea of the Giants bringing in a bunch of new receivers. I don’t foresee that because I think they’re tearing it down this offseason.
As this season has progressed, this looks very similar to Sean McDonough’s first year in BUF.
Three stick out to me
Feliciano s penalty, which was a bad call
The 4 th and r conversion with Henicke on the run that would have ended the game
Slayton s drop
But all those became relevant because with 4 possessions up 7, two in good field position, the coaching staff did not trust the offense
I dont see Schoen tearing the team down. No way the fans are going to accept going backwards after finally having some success.
They will continue to build and will have to make some tough decisions, but they are NOT going to sacrifice next season. Not happening.
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I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
It was a penalty, you can't run 20 yards across the field,
and flex in front of three players, just stupid by a veteran player too! As Parcells likes to say, 'stupid players make stupid mistakes'.
It's true, he's right...
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I was just responding to the idea of the Giants bringing in a bunch of new receivers. I don’t foresee that because I think they’re tearing it down this offseason.
I dont see Schoen tearing the team down. No way the fans are going to accept going backwards after finally having some success.
They will continue to build and will have to make some tough decisions, but they are NOT going to sacrifice next season. Not happening.
They are still rebuilding, needs more players, still too many holes on this team. They are not a playoff team,
but actually could get there? This game ending was deflating a bit, but overall I was hoping for 7 wins, can't complain too much if they don't make playoffs.
Once it went to OT, I agree with you. The Giants last drive in regulation was abysmal. TWO long bombs, and another incompletion. This with 3 timeouts, and 1:45 on the clock?
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I know Feleciano’s penalty cost us the win but I didn’t see it as a penalty.
He was flexing at Slayton not the Washington players.
No reason for a pivotal call to be made.
Refs should stay out of the way of the game not decide it.
Wow. Great analysis, if true, Didn’t consider this was what happened but it makes total sense.
Stupid for him to even being running down field doing that in that situation. But, you can see in the replays that he is looking at Slayton and runs right past the three Washington defenders. Even they didn't flinch as they would have if they thought he was directing it at them. I'm sorry, but this is where the refs are overly calling the game.
Love, the only starter, looked like Ronnie Lott out there. And Fabian Moreau, who was on a practice squad to begin the season, was assigned primary coverage on McLaurin. The rest of the players could barely keep up.
The fact that Wink was able to coax the unit into only allowing 20 points is incredible. Hats off to the guy.
Even with several gaping talent gaps (does Jaylon Smith still have enough speed to play in the league?), this unit is an emerging force.
Our ILB make tackles 5 yards off the LOS
For the most part today our tackling was very poor
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But the Daboll from Week One seemed to be gone today
Nope.
It’s almost never one play over 60 minutes.
This game is on our terrible offense 100% if you are looking for someone / some thing to blame this mess of a game on.
This. The penalty was also questionable. Our offense acts under the belief that it is illegal to score more than 21 points in a game. The third and 3 play exemplified it. Wonder who is at fault on that. Now I know why Kafka calla vanilla games: the players are simpletons.
Agreed. Didn't cost them the game, but it was an incredibly stupid penalty.
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did [/quote]
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke.
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
I think they can get two quality WRs this offseason and that will be a huge help.
We keep running out Feliciano at center and Glow at right guard and our interior o line stinks and we wonder why.
Can we please put Gates at center!!!!
Can we try Phillips or Neal at right guard. I mean what we have is not working.
Who are we going to beat with this line? So disappointing. 10 years and still our line stinks.
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke. [/quote]
Ok, but I really think the play calling sucked - absolutely sucked in the 2nd half. Poor situational play calling. They kept trying to run Barkley and he kept getting stopped. No change of play calling. How many rollouts did they call in the 2nd half. I do not remember any and it was killing the WTFs in the 1st half.
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is too inconsistent to retain IMO.
our WR depth is so shallow, we will have almost no choice but to retain him. You cannot get 4 quality WRs this off season. He will still be better than some of the other trash on this team.
That said, if we go into next season with Slayton as one of our top 3 WRs, then we will have another sub-par offensive season.
I think they can get two quality WRs this offseason and that will be a huge help.
What types though? Slot receivers? Tall contested-catch guys? Speedsters?
I agree but the talent vacuum at MLB is deep like the ocean.
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Nope. Jones is a much better QB than Heineke. Jones needs competent offensive line play and QUALITY RECIEVERS!!! Slayton is a no. 3, at most
Jones is a better talent than Heinecke, but Heinecke was under just as much if not more pressure today
How long would it take you to trade our receivers/TEs for Washingtons receivers/TEs. 1/100th of a second?
Jones did more under pressure, with his legs and through the air, than Heineke did
When his team needed a TD drive, Heinicke drove them down the field. After halftime, Jones got his team 7 points when he started at the plus 20. After that he didn’t do shit.
I am not a QB vs. QB guy, but if you had to ask which played better today it was clearly Heinicke. [/quote]
Mike, I usually agree with you. However, Heinecke has a much better cadre of receivers than Jones.
The game came down to the offense continually going three and out. The idea he did it to Slayton is just conjecture. The loss isn’t on the refs or the NFL.
Mis timed his jump too
He runs 10 yards down the field to flex his muscles at a couple of players? What kind of stupid shit is that? He should have been penalized for stupidity.
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came down to a taunting penalty hat should never have been called. Aly other discussion really just ignores the fact that the NFL allowed a game to be decided by a guy flexing who didn't even do it to show up the opponent, Any other discussion is only to push a narrative that doesn't exist for this game
The game came down to the offense continually going three and out. The idea he did it to Slayton is just conjecture. The loss isn’t on the refs or the NFL.
LOL. We literally were in FG range until the refs called taunting.
Is your hatred of Jones so strong that you don't even know what the fuck happened??