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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/4/2022 4:16 pm
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Slayton caught the ball cleanly with his hands  
M.S. : 12/4/2022 9:51 pm : link

But he knocked the ball out of his own hands when he brought the ball down to secure it in his stomach.

There’s such a thing as eye-hand coordination issues.

But, ohhhhhhh no… this was an eye-stomach issue.
Scales are rebalancing for the Giants  
M.S. : 12/4/2022 9:53 pm : link

And not in a good way.

Titans missed a game winner FG in Week 1, Gano missed one today.

And so it goes.
RE: Scales are rebalancing for the Giants  
BillKo : 12/4/2022 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15933227 M.S. said:
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And not in a good way.

Titans missed a game winner FG in Week 1, Gano missed one today.

And so it goes.


Those two are equivalent? lol......
It was a totally fine throw  
Jerry in_DC : 12/4/2022 10:30 pm : link
You don't expect pinpoint accuracy on throws of that distance. And it wasn't the easiest catch in the world, but definitely one you'd expect to be made. But these things happen. Not every pretty good downfield throw is caught.

We just make so few big plays that any chance for one is gold. Tyler Boyd dropped a catch that was a million times easier. But they score a lot and make a lot of big plays so they get past it.

You'll see plays like that in just about every game. It's a bad one for Slayton. He made a good one earlier.
If slayton continued to run through the ball  
Tuckrule : 12/5/2022 5:51 am : link
He would have been clipped by the safety. Not a massive hit but a hit. The ball realistically should have been outside the numbers. Jones put it on him. It was def catchable but a good throw? It wasn’t.
RE: RE: Howard Cross commenting on Slayton play  
giantBCP : 12/5/2022 6:05 am : link
In comment 15933215 BillKo said:
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In comment 15933212 joe48 said:


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Said pass was perfectly thrown and Slayton jumped too early. Remarkable play considering defender was right in Jones’s face.



Someone said above - if he ran thru the route it would have been a TD - almost like DJ was leading him.


Exactly. The ball skills that he exhibited on that play were awful.
RE: If slayton continued to run through the ball  
section125 : 12/5/2022 6:47 am : link
In comment 15933415 Tuckrule said:
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He would have been clipped by the safety. Not a massive hit but a hit. The ball realistically should have been outside the numbers. Jones put it on him. It was def catchable but a good throw? It wasn’t.


Did you watch the Cincy/KC game? Did you see the passes that Burrow and Mahomes made to their WRs? Rarely were they perfect, yet most of then were caught on imperfect placement or on contested throws. Yes there were a couple of wide open drops, too.
Even though Washington beat Philly a few games ago  
M.S. : 12/5/2022 6:56 am : link

Seems clear Philly/Dallas are the class of the NFC (not to mention the NFC East), followed by the Commanders and the Giants who are both behind them in overall team talent.

Giants now have 5 games remaining and they will all be very difficult, especially with all their injuries and their current level of play. Don't be shocked if they finish 8-8-1. It's a distinct possibility. If the Giants do indeed finish 8-8-1 (after a 7-2 start), I guess there's two ways of looking at Daboll's first season:

(1) The 2022 Giants are a vastly different (and better) team than where they ended up in 2021; or,
(2) After raising expectations to an unreasonably high level by mid-season, injuries (and a talent deficit) finally caught up to the 2022 Giants.

My overwhelming perspective / preference is #1.
RE: RE: Tweet from Sy on the drop  
DefenseWins : 12/5/2022 6:58 am : link
In comment 15933153 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Slayton clearly mistimed his jump.


+1
That was my very first thought when I saw the play live. He jumped too soon and was on his way down and falling backwards when the ball hit his hand.
RE: RE: RE: Tweet from Sy on the drop  
section125 : 12/5/2022 7:12 am : link
In comment 15933445 DefenseWins said:
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In comment 15933153 OBJ_AllDay said:


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Slayton clearly mistimed his jump.



+1
That was my very first thought when I saw the play live. He jumped too soon and was on his way down and falling backwards when the ball hit his hand.


Here is a replay of that pass - it was still in his hands cleanly and he bobbles it on the way down.
It was a very well thrown pass and misplayed, one way or another by Slayton.
Slayton's drop of late bomb - ( New Window )
RE: If slayton continued to run through the ball  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2022 7:23 am : link
In comment 15933415 Tuckrule said:
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He would have been clipped by the safety. Not a massive hit but a hit. The ball realistically should have been outside the numbers. Jones put it on him. It was def catchable but a good throw? It wasn’t.


Clipped by what safety? Do you have all22 access?
Mercy Mercy Mercy  
M.S. : 12/5/2022 7:36 am : link

So much written about the Slayton almost-catch as though that was the reason why the Giants failed to come away with a win against Washington.

Nope.

The Giants failed because their second half run game was literally crushed out of existence and their interior offensive line was made to look like a colander perforated with gigantic holes.
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ChrisRick : 12/5/2022 8:41 am : link
My view of the Jones to Slayton mised opportunity: Jones threw away from the coverage, Slayton ran to the coverage. Slayton was not expecting the ball towards the outside, but I think Jones was right to throw away from the defender. Had Slayton expected that, he would have probably put his body in a much better position to make the catch.

I put this on Slayton who has a history of drops.
Slayton should have caught that one. But he has also  
shyster : 12/5/2022 9:03 am : link
turned two potential INTs into 50-plus yard completions in the last two games: jumping over the DB in Dallas and, yesterday, sneakily getting away with grabbing the DB and putting himself in position for the catch.

Slayton giveth and Slayton taketh away.
Heinecki  
stretch234 : 12/5/2022 9:58 am : link
He is throwing to McLaurin, Samuel and Dotson. On their team Slayton is a 4. On the Giants he is a 1.

There is a reason their WR seemed to be open with space so often

I would not pay Jones franchise type money (30m) but he is so hamstrung from throwing to poor talent. Add to that the absolute awful C and RG play.

Slayton catches that pass the game is over. That was season wrecking drop
RE: It was a totally fine throw  
kickoff : 12/5/2022 1:15 pm : link
In comment 15933276 Jerry in_DC said:
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You don't expect pinpoint accuracy on throws of that distance. And it wasn't the easiest catch in the world, but definitely one you'd expect to be made. But these things happen. Not every pretty good downfield throw is caught.

We just make so few big plays that any chance for one is gold. Tyler Boyd dropped a catch that was a million times easier. But they score a lot and make a lot of big plays so they get past it.

You'll see plays like that in just about every game. It's a bad one for Slayton. He made a good one earlier.

Anyone else tired of seeing our opponents making great catches to keep drives going and every throw DJ makes has to be perfect. DJ completed 80% of his passes yesterday and was the major part of the offense. IMO he did a remarkable job with people in his face all day. It's a shame, this kid plays his heart out every game under dyer circumstances and has to put up with this constant criticism I wont blame him if he leaves, and believe me there will be teams willing to pay.
RE: Slayton should have caught that one. But he has also  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15933638 shyster said:
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turned two potential INTs into 50-plus yard completions in the last two games: jumping over the DB in Dallas and, yesterday, sneakily getting away with grabbing the DB and putting himself in position for the catch.

Slayton giveth and Slayton taketh away.


Every pass is a potential int. So he did his job on those 2 plays.
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