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larryflower37 : 12/4/2022 4:28 pm
Mitchell at the Garden
Knicks 1-4 intge last 5
Need a big win today
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If they're shopping Quickley  
Jan in DC : 12/7/2022 10:21 am : link
I'm guessing they think they can get his production for less, or draft someone to get another piece on a rookie scale deal. It's a bad look. He's been probably their most successful draft pick, if he's flipped for a late 1st, it feels like it was all for nothing.

Outside of Brunson, this FO has really really really botched free agency. They've blocked playing time of their young players by signing vets who are now getting benched, who also didn't help this team win.
Katz article is brutal  
larryflower37 : 12/7/2022 10:29 am : link
Basically no one wants our trash.
-Rose is washed.
-Cam will bring back nothing.
-Fournier has interest but we won't add assets
-Quickley has interest but looks more like a top 20 restricted pick or lumped in to take the above.

What a mess this FO has created.
RE: Katz article is brutal  
Enzo : 12/7/2022 10:38 am : link
In comment 15936793 larryflower37 said:
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Basically no one wants our trash.
-Rose is washed.
-Cam will bring back nothing.
-Fournier has interest but we won't add assets
-Quickley has interest but looks more like a top 20 restricted pick or lumped in to take the above.

What a mess this FO has created.

I'm trying to forget everything I just read in that article.
RE: Katz article is brutal  
widmerseyebrow : 12/7/2022 10:40 am : link
In comment 15936793 larryflower37 said:
Quote:
Basically no one wants our trash.
-Rose is washed.
-Cam will bring back nothing.
-Fournier has interest but we won't add assets
-Quickley has interest but looks more like a top 20 restricted pick or lumped in to take the above.

What a mess this FO has created.


There's really no rationalizing any of it. So brutal being a fan of this team.
Why not hold off on trading some of these guys  
ghost718 : 12/7/2022 11:24 am : link
and see what a better coach thinks

Not someone who decides one day that Evan Fournier has gone from Starter to Shit,nothing in between.
I can’t imagine there are fans still defending Leon Rose  
Sean : 12/7/2022 11:59 am : link
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I guess it makes sense now  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2022 12:04 pm : link
why Rose and Cam are out of the rotation
RE: I can’t imagine there are fans still defending Leon Rose  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2022 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15937016 Sean said:
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I am still giving him until the deadline
Talk is Rose is very loyal to Thibs  
larryflower37 : 12/7/2022 1:12 pm : link
Thibs will be here unless they completely tank.
I don't think Rose is going anywhere for at least this year so hopefully he can pull of some miracle trades after December 15th.
Problem is every smart GM knows he needs to move off Rose and Fournier, they are going to hold his feet to the fire.
Hasn’t the whole agent to GM thing been disproved?  
Sean : 12/7/2022 1:16 pm : link
Cut the bullshit and bring in people who can do the job.
Knicks working with cam to find a deal  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2022 1:39 pm : link
according to Bondy...You knew once Grimeams was healthy there were just no minutes for him
RE: Katz article is brutal  
djm : 12/7/2022 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15936793 larryflower37 said:
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Basically no one wants our trash.
-Rose is washed.
-Cam will bring back nothing.
-Fournier has interest but we won't add assets
-Quickley has interest but looks more like a top 20 restricted pick or lumped in to take the above.

What a mess this FO has created.


I've seen real messes. This isn't one of those situations by any means.

The front office inherited a bad roster and they have turned it into a mediocre roster. They haven't mortgaged the future at all and they really don't have any deadly contracts despite some of you thinking otherwise, not to mention it's not like there is a player to be signed right now that we can't sign due to the cap

They have held serve. They haven't been great by any means and they haven't made the HR move but Brunson was a good one.

Boring to be sure. But not a mess. The mid to late 2000s were a mess.
i find it astounding  
djm : 12/7/2022 1:51 pm : link
and so Knicks that as this franchise finally places itself into rare air where they have financial room and picks and even some young chip/talents to trade, there is such little super star player movement and availability. We had ONE guy basically, Mitchell, and that fell through and he wasn't exactly the perfect (legendary) player to go all in on.

I hate to be negative but sometimes I just wonder if this franchise is just doomed to lose forever and ever. You can't even go back and use hindsight to get this team to perennial 58 win status without really digging and searching. Where was that move? Mitchell? We aint getting to elite status on that move, even paired with Brunson.

We never pick high enough. We never sign that perfect FA. We always just miss. Every other franchise I root for carries that good karma even during the worst of times. The Knicks don't.
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