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gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 4:51 pm
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Very insightful  
steve in ky : 12/4/2022 4:53 pm : link
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cool story  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/4/2022 4:53 pm : link
bro
WTF did he do wrong this game?  
BestFeature : 12/4/2022 4:53 pm : link
One really bad series where Slayton dropped a ball that would have gotten him into almost FG range.
yeah, sorta got  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2022 4:53 pm : link
that opinion from the other thread :)
Gotta win that game  
GMen72 : 12/4/2022 4:54 pm : link
Had 4 opportunities and all the Giants need was a FG. 136 yards passing through 4 quarters is pathetic also! If this is our offense with DJ going forward, let him walk!
Agree.  
Devour the Day : 12/4/2022 4:54 pm : link
Time to move on.
Jones had chances to win it and did not.
Your QB has to win it. That simple.
Would say that if Slayton doesn't drop  
larryflower37 : 12/4/2022 4:54 pm : link
That big pass?
RE: WTF did he do wrong this game?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2022 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15932252 BestFeature said:
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One really bad series where Slayton dropped a ball that would have gotten him into almost FG range.


Well, he did have the lost fumble and 3 swings at a GW drive.

He wasn't bad but he wasn't what they needed today.
Daniel Jones  
Archer : 12/4/2022 4:55 pm : link
You have expressed your displeasure with Jones many times so this is not unexpected
RE: Agree.  
BleedBlue : 12/4/2022 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15932258 Devour the Day said:
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Time to move on.
Jones had chances to win it and did not.
Your QB has to win it. That simple.



You gotta let him win it….you can’t call fucking qb draws
Yea  
PaulN : 12/4/2022 4:56 pm : link
Jones was one of the only reasons thry should have won, but your take is the idiot take.
RE: Gotta win that game  
Eman11 : 12/4/2022 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15932257 GMen72 said:
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Had 4 opportunities and all the Giants need was a FG. 136 yards passing through 4 quarters is pathetic also! If this is our offense with DJ going forward, let him walk!


How about giving the OC some shit for a terrible start to the calls on four second half series in a row?
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broadbandz : 12/4/2022 4:56 pm : link
Yeah cant believe he missed that kick and got 15 yd penalty in fg range. THe man should be allowed in the NFL.
Sorry  
George : 12/4/2022 4:57 pm : link
But Jones played a good game today. He ran the plays that were called, was perfect (aside from a spike) well into the second half, and ran for multiple first downs.

I just don’t understand the hate for the guy. At all.
RE: WTF did he do wrong this game?  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15932252 BestFeature said:
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One really bad series where Slayton dropped a ball that would have gotten him into almost FG range.


Well, in the most important game of his career, he started it out fumbling the ball and turning it over on the first drive, giving the ball to Washington in Giants territory.

When game time is on the line in the 4th Quarter -- he bumbles the play.

I don't think that's what a franchise championship QB does when the pressure is on.
RE: Would say that if Slayton doesn't drop  
darren in pdx : 12/4/2022 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15932260 larryflower37 said:
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That big pass?


I was going to say the same. :)

Different story if he doesn’t drop that. Or no taunting penalty. Or Richie James doesn’t get confused and run into Barkley. Lots of things. Washington tied the game, too.
Here’s all you need to know  
Dave on the UWS : 12/4/2022 4:57 pm : link
Ron Rivera put the game in the hands of his UDFA QB and he delivered. Kafka and Daboll wouldn’t be caught dead doing the same with Jones. That’s all you need to know. Don’t want to hear about OLs or receivers, Jones is a starter for his legs only. He’s not adequate in any other area. Take the last play. MY desperately needed 5 more yards. He knew Washington would bring pressure, yet when he took the snap he had no clue and threw the ball away in desperation. Gano’s FG would have been good from 53. Seen all I have to and I bet they have too.
Play calling in second half  
Dave in VA : 12/4/2022 4:57 pm : link
was very much same as two prior games....run SB between tackles....or should I say try to run SB....unfair to player, shows our defense that we're not up to the task and unreasonable to assume such calls would bring success...we needed to show that we have confidence and that we will try to win in regulation...this play calling did anything but that
Really surprised people are still defending him  
Sean : 12/4/2022 4:58 pm : link
“If he only had an OL…”
“If he only had better WR’s…”

It’s his 4th year. Go ahead and pay him $20M plus per year and see how it goes.
RE: RE: WTF did he do wrong this game?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/4/2022 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15932276 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15932252 BestFeature said:


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One really bad series where Slayton dropped a ball that would have gotten him into almost FG range.



Well, in the most important game of his career, he started it out fumbling the ball and turning it over on the first drive, giving the ball to Washington in Giants territory.

When game time is on the line in the 4th Quarter -- he bumbles the play.

I don't think that's what a franchise championship QB does when the pressure is on.



You think HE made the mistake when James and Barkley ran into each other?????
yes -- yes i do  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 4:59 pm : link
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Glowinski PF. Jones fault  
rnargi : 12/4/2022 5:00 pm : link
James playing Kestone Kop. Jones fault.

Slaton dropping the deep ball. Jones fault.

Interior line turnstyling. Jones fault.

DEF giving up a 90 yard game tying TD drive in the closing minute. Jones fault.
RE: Yea  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2022 5:00 pm : link
In comment 15932271 PaulN said:
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Jones was one of the only reasons thry should have won, but your take is the idiot take.


In what way? He wasn’t bad but the fumble handed Washington points early, and they couldn’t get anything going in the second half in nearly two and a half quarters.

The only reason they were even able to tie was because of the defense
RE: Gotta win that game  
jvm52106 : 12/4/2022 5:00 pm : link
In comment 15932257 GMen72 said:
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Had 4 opportunities and all the Giants need was a FG. 136 yards passing through 4 quarters is pathetic also! If this is our offense with DJ going forward, let him walk!


So the pass to Slayton is his fault?
Pretty sure  
George : 12/4/2022 5:00 pm : link
Richie James had no idea what play they were running or where he was supposed to be.
RE: yes -- yes i do  
jvm52106 : 12/4/2022 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15932290 gidiefor said:
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Wow.. ok.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/4/2022 5:01 pm : link
I thought he was alright, but the thought of giving him top dollar makes me nauseous.
He is who is is  
Jerry in_DC : 12/4/2022 5:01 pm : link
A pretty good runner. An adequate game manager. Requires a very, very simplified offense to complete a bunch of short passes. If you design an offense around his weaknesses, he can keep you in games against mediocre teams.

Hes a running QB. He just looks and acts the way a lot of fans like their QBs to look and act so he has a fan club and an excuse factory.
Being  
Toth029 : 12/4/2022 5:02 pm : link
Critical of Jones because of one error he made within the first few moments of the game is pretty ridiculous. He rebounded after with a beautiful throw downfield.

And then blaming him for both Barkley and James screwing up running into another.
RE: Here’s all you need to know  
rnargi : 12/4/2022 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15932279 Dave on the UWS said:
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Ron Rivera put the game in the hands of his UDFA QB and he delivered. Kafka and Daboll wouldn’t be caught dead doing the same with Jones. That’s all you need to know. Don’t want to hear about OLs or receivers, Jones is a starter for his legs only. He’s not adequate in any other area. Take the last play. MY desperately needed 5 more yards. He knew Washington would bring pressure, yet when he took the snap he had no clue and threw the ball away in desperation. Gano’s FG would have been good from 53. Seen all I have to and I bet they have too.


Throwing two deep balls on the final drive of regulation...one dropped...one at least illegal contact if not PI...wasn't putting the game in Jones hands? Interesting.
This was a classic Jones game...  
bw in dc : 12/4/2022 5:02 pm : link
Some good things, some decent things, some bad things.

But just not enough good things to make the case that he's a long-term solution.

Personally, I wish Kafka had run him even more. It seemed even when the Commandeers spied, Jones still made plays.
What did Saquon Barkley do in the second half to  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/4/2022 5:02 pm : link
help us win?
RE: ...  
Toth029 : 12/4/2022 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15932303 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I thought he was alright, but the thought of giving him top dollar makes me nauseous.


Who is saying he deserves top dollar?
And to think  
santacruzom : 12/4/2022 5:03 pm : link
That a quality poster like Terps got driven away by threats of being banned because people complained about him being critical of Jones.
RE: Glowinski PF. Jones fault  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/4/2022 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15932292 rnargi said:
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James playing Kestone Kop. Jones fault.

Slaton dropping the deep ball. Jones fault.

Interior line turnstyling. Jones fault.

DEF giving up a 90 yard game tying TD drive in the closing minute. Jones fault.

How much are you willing to pay DJ, and for how long?

Without that, your excuses are tired.
RE: And to think  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/4/2022 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15932318 santacruzom said:
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That a quality poster like Terps got driven away by threats of being banned because people complained about him being critical of Jones.


It helps when people suck his dick.
You like him?  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 5:04 pm : link
start a team and make him your QB

I don't want him on the Giants - we need a real QB

He's never gonna take the Giants to the promised land
RE: RE: Here’s all you need to know  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2022 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15932311 rnargi said:
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In comment 15932279 Dave on the UWS said:


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Ron Rivera put the game in the hands of his UDFA QB and he delivered. Kafka and Daboll wouldn’t be caught dead doing the same with Jones. That’s all you need to know. Don’t want to hear about OLs or receivers, Jones is a starter for his legs only. He’s not adequate in any other area. Take the last play. MY desperately needed 5 more yards. He knew Washington would bring pressure, yet when he took the snap he had no clue and threw the ball away in desperation. Gano’s FG would have been good from 53. Seen all I have to and I bet they have too.



Throwing two deep balls on the final drive of regulation...one dropped...one at least illegal contact if not PI...wasn't putting the game in Jones hands? Interesting.


There wasn’t illegal contact on that play. If it was then they shouldn’t have picked up the flag near the goaline with Mclaurin
RE: RE: Would say that if Slayton doesn't drop  
Eman11 : 12/4/2022 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15932277 darren in pdx said:
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In comment 15932260 larryflower37 said:


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That big pass?



I was going to say the same. :)

Different story if he doesn’t drop that. Or no taunting penalty. Or Richie James doesn’t get confused and run into Barkley. Lots of things. Washington tied the game, too.


Yeah but It’s DJ’s fault. Lol.

Look I’m not a DJ by all means defender but to put thi tie on him is ridiculous. He’d be about 8th -9th down my list of reasons and just trying to be fair.

As Gisele would say he can’t throw them and catch them too! Also didn’t see him flexing at anyone or missing any tackles while playing DB
RE: RE: Glowinski PF. Jones fault  
rnargi : 12/4/2022 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15932322 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15932292 rnargi said:


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James playing Kestone Kop. Jones fault.

Slaton dropping the deep ball. Jones fault.

Interior line turnstyling. Jones fault.

DEF giving up a 90 yard game tying TD drive in the closing minute. Jones fault.


How much are you willing to pay DJ, and for how long?

Without that, your excuses are tired.


I'm on record...2 years, 25 to 30 mil bridge deal
RE: And to think  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/4/2022 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15932318 santacruzom said:
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That a quality poster like Terps got driven away by threats of being banned because people complained about him being critical of Jones.


Terps is/was a lunatic -- him leaving had nothing to do with his opinion -- it had to do with his craziness
Really good thread you created here.  
chick310 : 12/4/2022 5:05 pm : link
Nice job.
I'm over DJ as well  
jerseyboyLAX : 12/4/2022 5:05 pm : link
I just don't want to hear it anymore...the excuses or reasons or whatever....I've been a Giant fan all my life and will die as one, but I am sick of Jones. Sick of watching him. Just tired of it.
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Route 9 : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
I don't hate him. Want him to do well but I don't think he's the guy at all. He's OK ... At best.
He's not the guy  
Gmen703 : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
120 yards passing per game ain't gonna win anything.

His wheels are good though. But an injury risk each season
RE: RE: RE: Here’s all you need to know  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15932327 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 15932311 rnargi said:


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In comment 15932279 Dave on the UWS said:


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Ron Rivera put the game in the hands of his UDFA QB and he delivered. Kafka and Daboll wouldn’t be caught dead doing the same with Jones. That’s all you need to know. Don’t want to hear about OLs or receivers, Jones is a starter for his legs only. He’s not adequate in any other area. Take the last play. MY desperately needed 5 more yards. He knew Washington would bring pressure, yet when he took the snap he had no clue and threw the ball away in desperation. Gano’s FG would have been good from 53. Seen all I have to and I bet they have too.



Throwing two deep balls on the final drive of regulation...one dropped...one at least illegal contact if not PI...wasn't putting the game in Jones hands? Interesting.



There wasn’t illegal contact on that play. If it was then they shouldn’t have picked up the flag near the goaline with Mclaurin


You're right. But Slayton has to make a better play at the ball and he gets a PI flag. Again...a better WR is counted on to do more than run fast and try to catch ball.
Who do so many people ignore that’s he’s a pending FA  
Sean : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
He makes a few really nice plays, but not nearly enough. Some people on this site want to franchise him. Incredible.
Is  
AcidTest : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
the passing offense so limited because they don't trust Jones, or because of our subpar WRs and turnstile OL? It's probably a little of both. I would rank them as follows, from most to least worst:

OL (Interior).
WRs.
Jones.

But I still think the coaches have deliberately limited the passing offense at least partially because of deficiencies they see in Jones in that area. My guess is he'll want more than what the Giants are willing to pay, but let's see what happens the rest of the year.
welcome aboard gidie  
Producer : 12/4/2022 5:06 pm : link
you are entitled to your opinion, and I agree.

It's not enough to not make mistakes, though he did certainly make some mistakes, he doesn't have the ability to consistently make enough plays to help us become a more dominant team. He's meh.
gidie  
Sean : 12/4/2022 5:07 pm : link
It’s too bad you ran Terps off the site. Site is worse for it and the irony is here you are with this thread a few weeks later.
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