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jintman : 12/4/2022 5:22 pm
5 posessions in the fourth quarter and overtime and zero points ….very disappointing and please cut Feliciano ,game over without penalty….
Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
widmerseyebrow : 12/4/2022 5:23 pm : link
So I hear.
RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
BigBlueJ : 12/4/2022 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:
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So I hear.


Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?
RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
joeinpa : 12/4/2022 5:42 pm : link
In comment 15932482 BigBlueJ said:
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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.



Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?


No matter who screws up, with you guys there is never any context, it s “always”’Daniel s fault

If Jones was a real leader  
BlackLight : 12/4/2022 5:43 pm : link
Feliciano wouldn't have gotten that penalty.
why the eff  
Pork Chop : 12/4/2022 5:48 pm : link
didn't Jones arrange to have the turf replaced by grass before the season started? He wants to lose.
...  
broadbandz : 12/4/2022 6:09 pm : link
Jones didnt block for shit this game. get him off the team.
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
joeinpa : 12/4/2022 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15932495 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.



Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?

No, a lot of us are way more objective about him than you



No matter who screws up, with you guys there is never any context, it s “always”’Daniel s fault
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2022 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15932495 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.



Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?



No matter who screws up, with you guys there is never any context, it s “always”’Daniel s fault


You are the exact same poster so I would not throw stones. According to guys like you Jones can only win games. Losses are always everyone else’s fault.

It is so weird watching the two extremes on this site talk to each other like they are somehow being impartial.

For those guys, Jones will always suck. For guys like you, Jones will always be a great QB nobody else can see.
Look, bottom line  
Dave on the UWS : 12/4/2022 6:14 pm : link
5 possessions late, ZERO points. Jones touches the ball every play. He can change a play if he sees a bad matchup. When he gets to throw, find a guy, make the play. I don’t see a winner here, just someone we make excuses for and argue over.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
joeinpa : 12/4/2022 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15932622 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15932482 BigBlueJ said:


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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.



Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?



No matter who screws up, with you guys there is never any context, it s “always”’Daniel s fault




You are the exact same poster so I would not throw stones. According to guys like you Jones can only win games. Losses are always everyone else’s fault.

It is so weird watching the two extremes on this site talk to each other like they are somehow being impartial.

For those guys, Jones will always suck. For guys like you, Jones will always be a great QB nobody else can see.


Not true Mike, never said he was. Great quarterback

But I also understand what you guys claim are excuses, are reality, he is not surrounded by a very good supporting cast

We ll see what Schoen decides, I m good with that
It’s all jones’ fault  
5BowlsSoon : 12/4/2022 6:19 pm : link
For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…
That was the dumbest taunting penalty  
jeff57 : 12/4/2022 6:19 pm : link
I’ve ever seen.
It’s not all Jones fault  
Sean : 12/4/2022 6:21 pm : link
But, he’s a free agent and he hasn’t produced enough. That’s just reality. Maybe some would blindly give him a $100M contract. I wouldn’t.
What exactly did Barkley do the entire second half?  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/4/2022 6:24 pm : link
It's a trick question
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
Jack Stroud : 12/4/2022 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15932495 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15932482 BigBlueJ said:


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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.



Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?



No matter who screws up, with you guys there is never any context, it s “always”’Daniel s fault
Jones does not play defense, he was not responsible for allowing the Commies to convert a 4th and 21! We get it, you hate Jones, you see him as the problem. What is your solution?
RE: RE: Daniel Jones is doing just fine  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/4/2022 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15932482 BigBlueJ said:
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In comment 15932411 widmerseyebrow said:


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So I hear.

Nothing is his fault ever. Did you hear?


IMO it's more Barkley's fault. He's killed the team in the 2nd halves the past two games (and against Detroit he sucked the whole game, he was outplayed by Breida IMO).

You know when announcers talk about how great RBs "just get stronger in the 4th quarter!" well in the past two weeks Barkley gets weaker.

I'm glad he rejected the Giants more than generous offer.
RE: It’s all jones’ fault  
Rjanyg : 12/4/2022 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15932644 5BowlsSoon said:
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For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…


Excellent post.
RE: It’s not all Jones fault  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2022 7:06 pm : link
In comment 15932654 Sean said:
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But, he’s a free agent and he hasn’t produced enough. That’s just reality. Maybe some would blindly give him a $100M contract. I wouldn’t.


We already have one poster on record saying he would have no problem giving Jones $40M/year. And he wasn’t kidding.
RE: It’s all jones’ fault  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2022 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15932644 5BowlsSoon said:
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For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…


When the WR is wide open, we ask him to throw a good ball. He threw one off target that was catchable, but it was a poor throw. And Slayton made a good adjustment to a bad ball on the 55 yarder.
Jones graded out at a 31+ QBR...  
bw in dc : 12/4/2022 7:12 pm : link
But I think I captured most of the reasons why in this post-mortem:

-- Kafka
-- Daboll
-- Feliciano
-- Slayton
-- OL


Does that capture most of the excuses?
RE: Look, bottom line  
Now Mike in MD : 12/4/2022 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15932624 Dave on the UWS said:
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5 possessions late, ZERO points. Jones touches the ball every play. He can change a play if he sees a bad matchup. When he gets to throw, find a guy, make the play. I don’t see a winner here, just someone we make excuses for and argue over.


Just find a guy. What a brilliant bit of analysis. Holy fuck!
Jones should throw it and catch it himself  
djm : 12/4/2022 7:21 pm : link
We would have scored 40 today if we have 2 legit wrs.



Ball was there twice. Nope.

RE: Jones graded out at a 31+ QBR...  
section125 : 12/4/2022 7:28 pm : link
In comment 15932822 bw in dc said:
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But I think I captured most of the reasons why in this post-mortem:

-- Kafka
-- Daboll
-- Feliciano
-- Slayton
-- OL


Does that capture most of the excuses?


Jones is not the guy, IMV. But that play calling by Kafka was horrendous in the 2nd half. It is like he loses where he is at in the game. I turned the game off half way through the 4th qtr. Just horrendous play calls and execution by Barkley. I could not figure out what Kafka was trying to do, even if the WTFs did.
RE: RE: It’s all jones’ fault  
Now Mike in MD : 12/4/2022 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15932816 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15932644 5BowlsSoon said:


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For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…



When the WR is wide open, we ask him to throw a good ball. He threw one off target that was catchable, but it was a poor throw. And Slayton made a good adjustment to a bad ball on the 55 yarder.


See, it's statements like this that make it really difficult to put stock in some of the DJ criticism. The long completion was NOT a poor throw. It was actually exactly where it needed to be considering the position of the DB. And if you're saying the missed throw to Slayton was a poor throw, I'm sorry that's just flat out wrong. The ball hit him tight in the fucking hands.
RE: RE: Jones graded out at a 31+ QBR...  
bw in dc : 12/4/2022 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15932863 section125 said:
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In comment 15932822 bw in dc said:


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But I think I captured most of the reasons why in this post-mortem:

-- Kafka
-- Daboll
-- Feliciano
-- Slayton
-- OL


Does that capture most of the excuses?



Jones is not the guy, IMV. But that play calling by Kafka was horrendous in the 2nd half. It is like he loses where he is at in the game. I turned the game off half way through the 4th qtr. Just horrendous play calls and execution by Barkley. I could not figure out what Kafka was trying to do, even if the WTFs did.


Once we went up 20-13 after the Heinicke fumble, we needed Jones to make more plays.

Because it was clear after halftime, IMV, WC decided that SB was not going to beat them. I think he had 7 carries for basically 0 yards for the second half and OT combined.

These are circumstances where a franchise QB steps up and figures it. Jones came up short this time...



Rjanyg : 6:38 pm : link : reply  
JerrysKids : 12/4/2022 7:46 pm : link
Agree with this, Jones you can crush him for the fumble in the first possession but I thought he did ok and well enough to win. Slayton was pretty wide open so I think that is something that can be nitpicked. Hey ran for some big plays as well and that is too often overlooked with DJ.
RE: RE:  
5BowlsSoon : 12/4/2022 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15932816 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15932644 5BowlsSoon said:


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For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…



When the WR is wide open, we ask him to throw a good ball. He threw one off target that was catchable, but it was a poor throw. And Slayton made a good adjustment to a bad ball on the 55 yarder.
RE: This was a poor throw Mike?  
5BowlsSoon : 12/4/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15932816 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15932644 5BowlsSoon said:


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For handing off to Saquon on first down and he loses 3 yards…

It’s Jones’ fault Slayton dropped that long pass….we always ask Jones to take chances and give our WRs a chance to make a play….well, that was Jones’ fault for not making that long pass a bit better….

It’s Jones’ fault when we had first down on the 35 but then Feliciano gets called for a taunting penalty and takes us out of FG range.

And it definitely was Jones’ fault for allowing Samuel to get free on that 4th down play with Heinecke running to his left throwing across his body…



When the WR is wide open, we ask him to throw a good ball. He threw one off target that was catchable, but it was a poor throw. And Slayton made a good adjustment to a bad ball on the 55 yarder.


Open link and see for yourself
Slayton long pass - ( New Window )
RE: I’m not surprised you can’t find fault With playcalling  
5BowlsSoon : 12/4/2022 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15932912 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15932863 section125 said:


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In comment 15932822 bw in dc said:


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But I think I captured most of the reasons why in this post-mortem:

-- Kafka
-- Daboll
-- Feliciano
-- Slayton
-- OL


Does that capture most of the excuses?



Jones is not the guy, IMV. But that play calling by Kafka was horrendous in the 2nd half. It is like he loses where he is at in the game. I turned the game off half way through the 4th qtr. Just horrendous play calls and execution by Barkley. I could not figure out what Kafka was trying to do, even if the WTFs did.



Once we went up 20-13 after the Heinicke fumble, we needed Jones to make more plays.

Because it was clear after halftime, IMV, WC decided that SB was not going to beat them. I think he had 7 carries for basically 0 yards for the second half and OT combined.

These are circumstances where a franchise QB steps up and figures it. Jones came up short this time...




That goes against your narrative you so desperately want people to see…”it’s all Jones’ fault….You want Jones to step up in the 4th but why not say anything about Saquon? Don’t you want him to step up too? Shhhhhh, “it’s all Jones’ fault”……Feliciano gets a horrible penalty taking us out of FG range….shhhhhh, “it’s all Jones’ fault”…… Slayton drops a long pass that would have gotten us into FG range at least….shhhhhh, “it’s all Jones’ fault”
Slayton drop - ( New Window )
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