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I was impressed with what I saw today

adamg : 12/4/2022 10:19 pm
We should have won that game. We'll win in two weeks. I thought we were going to get stomped after we went down 10-0. But they finally started running Jones again. That's the key to our offense until we get legitimate WRs.
The offense in the 2nd half was pathetic  
BlueHurricane : 12/4/2022 10:23 pm : link
Nonexistent actually and you were impressed and you are confident they win in Washington?

I don’t share your optimism
Coach playing  
BigBlueJ : 12/4/2022 10:29 pm : link
scared, cost us a victory. Joe Judge special.
Don't forget our awesome secondary  
robbieballs2003 : 12/4/2022 10:29 pm : link
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The bar  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2022 10:32 pm : link
Is low.
Lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2022 10:33 pm : link
.
________  
I am Ninja : 12/4/2022 10:34 pm : link
Why is there always one like this guy?

It was dogshit man.

Dogshit.

You dont need to be profound.
The end zones  
Jerry in_DC : 12/4/2022 10:38 pm : link
Looked cool
I wouldn't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/4/2022 10:43 pm : link
say "impressed" but I think a lot of Giants fans are looking at this game from a biased position.

The Commanders blew a 10-0 early lead. They out-gained the Giants in first downs, total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, and held a massive advantage in time of possession.

The Commanders held the Giants to 21 yards in the second half.

And the Commanders still didn't win the game.

Also keep in mind that the Commanders had the better rated defense and special teams. And the Giants secondary had Moreau, McCloud, and Gilbert starting.

RE: Coach playing  
5BowlsSoon : 12/4/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15933272 BigBlueJ said:
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scared, cost us a victory. Joe Judge special.


Yeah, it does seem like the early season Daboll- play to win- has been taken over by this current Daboll- playing not to lose.
Getting just gashed  
thrunthrublue : 12/4/2022 10:55 pm : link
By their running and quick passes, gotta fix that cause now and once again it’s on tape.
RE: The end zones  
prdave73 : 12/4/2022 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15933287 Jerry in_DC said:
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Looked cool


Agree.. The fact that the Giants competed with the Cowboys last week and should have won this game against Washington with the current talent the Giants have now, is short of amazing. Every Giant fan should be thanking the Giants coaching staff. Be thankful we now have an excellent HC and DC.
RE: I wouldn't  
prdave73 : 12/4/2022 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15933292 Eric from BBI said:
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say "impressed" but I think a lot of Giants fans are looking at this game from a biased position.

The Commanders blew a 10-0 early lead. They out-gained the Giants in first downs, total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, and held a massive advantage in time of possession.

The Commanders held the Giants to 21 yards in the second half.

And the Commanders still didn't win the game.

Also keep in mind that the Commanders had the better rated defense and special teams. And the Giants secondary had Moreau, McCloud, and Gilbert starting.


Agree.. The fact that the Giants competed with the Cowboys last week and should have won this game against Washington with the current talent the Giants have now, is short of amazing. Every Giant fan should be thanking the Giants coaching staff. Be thankful we now have an excellent HC and DC.
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ryanmkeane : 12/4/2022 10:59 pm : link
Some positives on my end:

-it is week 14 this coming week and we have 4 losses
-if you’re using this season as a means to find some talented players to add to the mix, McCloud seems like a nice find. Guy is solid.
-Ojulari, when healthy, really makes our pash rush dangerous. He’s awesome when he’s out there
-Thibodeaux turning a corner and could be rounding into form for the stretch run
-Bellinger definitely makes a difference out there
-Neal looked good and not too rusty

Negatives:

-Interior OL is somewhat awful
-we legitimately can’t throw to any receivers except Slayton and Hodgins, the offense basically has to be confined to them as far as WR goes. Really sucks but it is what it is
-Kafka getting away from up tempo and aggressiveness in the second half was odd. Can’t say whether or not it was intentional and we couldn’t get anything in the run game going. Gotta recognize it sooner I guess.
Hodgins  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2022 11:08 pm : link
I think we might have something with him. He runs very crisp routes. Could develop into a solid 3rd receiver
I was the opposite of impressed  
sharp315 : 12/4/2022 11:20 pm : link
This offense is completely anemic. The defense looked fine and had the strip sack to set up a touchdown. Other than that the offense could barely get anything going. I feel like that deep Slayton play was about as many yards as the rest of the passing offense combined.

Not sure why we're using words like impressed. This offense is bottom of the barrel. It looked great the first few weeks but at this point it is on par with 2020 & 2021 offense.
Impressed.  
Rolyrock : 12/5/2022 12:06 am : link
Agree with OP. I felt we were going to get crushed after the 10 -0 lead. The previous regimes probably would of been. I'm still flying high on the turn around of this team.
The 9 game DJ tryout has been impressive, so far!  
GMen72 : 12/5/2022 12:54 am : link
0-3-1

Definitely deserves the big bucks, right fanboys?
We're in year one of a three year rebuild.  
MOOPS : 12/5/2022 1:18 am : link
We're in year one of a brand new GM, brand new Head Coach and brand new OC.
Expect growing pains on all levels.
The garbage is being sorted out and a foundation is being poured. The overwhelming majority are buying in and the ones that aren't will be gone soon enough.
The playoffs are within reach, a feat almost nobody would have thought possible a mere three months ago.
Did I mention meaningful games in December?
Sit back and enjoy the show.
So when the o line sucks that is why Barkley  
kelly : 12/5/2022 3:47 am : link
Is not impressive.

But when the o line sucks and the receivers suck that is not a reason for Jones not to be impressive.

People make no sense.

If your o line sucks it's hard to run or throw the ball. It's the same problem we have had for 10 years.
RE: We're in year one of a three year rebuild.  
Maijay : 12/5/2022 5:02 am : link
In comment 15933383 MOOPS said:
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We're in year one of a brand new GM, brand new Head Coach and brand new OC.
Expect growing pains on all levels.
The garbage is being sorted out and a foundation is being poured. The overwhelming majority are buying in and the ones that aren't will be gone soon enough.
The playoffs are within reach, a feat almost nobody would have thought possible a mere three months ago.
Did I mention meaningful games in December?
Sit back and enjoy the show.

Your assessment is spot on.The team has many holes to fill and the current coach and GM are competent at their jobs. The negative obsession with Daniel Jones is profound on this site. He is a fair to middling QB who might be the answer. If their draft position allows them to draft a potential franchise QB please do it. DJ has heart and at least he's a good back up QB. We have the right to be optimistic about the future. I think the team is in good hands both administratively and coaching wise.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2022 5:28 am : link
Not as down as others, but 'impressed' wouldn't be a word I'd used to describe how I thought we looked.
RE: The 9 game DJ tryout has been impressive, so far!  
Tuckrule : 12/5/2022 5:33 am : link
In comment 15933373 GMen72 said:
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0-3-1

Definitely deserves the big bucks, right fanboys?


Your an idiot. Without his legs we get destroyed yesterday. Let’s run down the list of things

Throws perfect pass to slayton within FG range feliciano penalty backs us up.

Throws perfect pass to slayton dropped. Would have won the game.

In OT. No timeouts 30 seconds left gets us within a decent shot at a field goal.

He can’t catch, run and throw to himself. Let’s also ignore the interior of the offensive line is atrocious. When Bredeson is back I put him at left guard and move gates to right guard. Enough of glowinski 7mm for what????? Horrendous signing
The punt in OT  
Costy16 : 12/5/2022 5:52 am : link
Was registered at a 99.3 on the surrender index.

This coaching staff is allowed to be criticized. Kafka has been terrible since the Seattle game.

Daboll’s decision to have Jackson return punts after McKinney broke his hand was an egregious error in personnel management.

I know the roster is thin, and injuries have piled up in key positions. But the gameplan offensively has seemed to become so risk adverse that it’s been detrimental to the playcalling and game planning.
RE: The punt in OT  
section125 : 12/5/2022 6:06 am : link
In comment 15933416 Costy16 said:
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Was registered at a 99.3 on the surrender index.

This coaching staff is allowed to be criticized. Kafka has been terrible since the Seattle game.

Daboll’s decision to have Jackson return punts after McKinney broke his hand was an egregious error in personnel management.

I know the roster is thin, and injuries have piled up in key positions. But the gameplan offensively has seemed to become so risk adverse that it’s been detrimental to the playcalling and game planning.


Seeing as how that 2nd half was being played and the results they were getting from the offense, it was the correct thing to do. They had a 2nd and two early in the 3rd quarter and Barkley just didn't get anything and on third it was another half assed play that netted 1 yard...
RE: I wouldn't  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/5/2022 6:39 am : link
In comment 15933292 Eric from BBI said:
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say "impressed" but I think a lot of Giants fans are looking at this game from a biased position.

The Commanders blew a 10-0 early lead. They out-gained the Giants in first downs, total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, and held a massive advantage in time of possession.

The Commanders held the Giants to 21 yards in the second half.

And the Commanders still didn't win the game.

Also keep in mind that the Commanders had the better rated defense and special teams. And the Giants secondary had Moreau, McCloud, and Gilbert starting.


For all the reasons you stated, I think I would have been even more depressed with the tie if I was a Washington fan. The Giants could neither stop the run or guard McLaurin in the passing game.
After the shaky start  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2022 6:44 am : link
The O actually was very reminiscent of the earlier first 7 games. Then it just vanished in the 2nd and that had to be the worst second half production wise. Be interesting if Sy or anyone else comments as to what WFT did/didn't do differently and why the Giants stopped executing. I was very pleased with the D especially after Williams went down. They battled.
can't decide which is more impressive  
Shirk130 : 12/5/2022 6:47 am : link
two RB's running into each other on one of the biggest plays of the game or the offensive lineman who felt the need to run 20 yards downfield to pose and cost them a huge gain that could have potentially put the game away.
RE: I wouldn't  
Sec 103 : 12/5/2022 7:11 am : link
In comment 15933292 Eric from BBI said:
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say "impressed" but I think a lot of Giants fans are looking at this game from a biased position.

The Commanders blew a 10-0 early lead. They out-gained the Giants in first downs, total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, and held a massive advantage in time of possession.

The Commanders held the Giants to 21 yards in the second half.

And the Commanders still didn't win the game.

Also keep in mind that the Commanders had the better rated defense and special teams. And the Giants secondary had Moreau, McCloud, and Gilbert starting.


And in spite of all this we were ahead in the 4th by 7....
The D broke (and with that secondary not difficult to fathom) and they tied the game. Insofar as the OT, once we gave up the ball I thought we were dead. We made it to a tie, not good but better than a loss. Granted this was ours to have.
Higlhly doubtful they beat Washington in 2 weeks  
ZogZerg : 12/5/2022 7:12 am : link
Not sure what folks were watching, but skins shot themselves in the foot a number of times. They could have easily won this game and have 2 weeks to plan for the next one.
RE: The end zones  
bluefin : 12/5/2022 7:34 am : link
In comment 15933287 Jerry in_DC said:
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Looked cool

they did
Impressed is the wrong word  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2022 8:09 am : link
The defense played very well. They picked up the offense holding the Commanders to a field goal after the turnover, and holding them off the score board for almost the entire second half despite getting no more than a few seconds rest between series.

Kafka wasn’t able to run tempo in the second half because his defense was gassed and they needed to get them a rest. They needed a few first downs here and there but they couldn’t get it. Running tempo would have only made the problems the offense created for the defense worse.

This team has some pieces on defense and Wink is doing well with what he has. The offense is probably playing to where their talent is. They need an infusion of interior linemen and playmakers.
RE: can't decide which is more impressive  
Blue21 : 12/5/2022 8:13 am : link
In comment 15933436 Shirk130 said:
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two RB's running into each other on one of the biggest plays of the game or the offensive lineman who felt the need to run 20 yards downfield to pose and cost them a huge gain that could have potentially put the game away.
Have to agree with this post. I d give it a tie. Seriously though I m over this game and if someone at the beginning of the season said we d be 7-4-1 in December and in the playoff hunt I d have been ecstatic.
RE: RE: We're in year one of a three year rebuild.  
BlueVinnie : 12/5/2022 8:17 am : link
In comment 15933405 Maijay said:
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In comment 15933383 MOOPS said:


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We're in year one of a brand new GM, brand new Head Coach and brand new OC.
Expect growing pains on all levels.
The garbage is being sorted out and a foundation is being poured. The overwhelming majority are buying in and the ones that aren't will be gone soon enough.
The playoffs are within reach, a feat almost nobody would have thought possible a mere three months ago.
Did I mention meaningful games in December?
Sit back and enjoy the show.


Your assessment is spot on.The team has many holes to fill and the current coach and GM are competent at their jobs. The negative obsession with Daniel Jones is profound on this site. He is a fair to middling QB who might be the answer. If their draft position allows them to draft a potential franchise QB please do it. DJ has heart and at least he's a good back up QB. We have the right to be optimistic about the future. I think the team is in good hands both administratively and coaching wise.

If your QB is "fair to middling" (and I'm not certain that Jones can even achieve that level) then that QB is NOT the answer.
RE: The offense in the 2nd half was pathetic  
mikemo599 : 12/5/2022 8:19 am : link
In comment 15933267 BlueHurricane said:
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Nonexistent actually and you were impressed and you are confident they win in Washington?

I don’t share your optimism


I hear that, I mean we couldn't even get a lousy 3pts in the 4th qt
The coaches were rebuilt  
fkap : 12/5/2022 8:27 am : link
aside from draft, though, Gettleman left us in such shitty condition that we couldn't do much rebuild other than dumpster diving.


I'm impressed that the team has done as well as it has, considering the injuries and talent level.

Is it just me, or was tackling a real issue yesterday?
RE: The coaches were rebuilt  
BigBlueShock : 12/5/2022 8:30 am : link
In comment 15933562 fkap said:
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aside from draft, though, Gettleman left us in such shitty condition that we couldn't do much rebuild other than dumpster diving.


I'm impressed that the team has done as well as it has, considering the injuries and talent level.

Is it just me, or was tackling a real issue yesterday?

The tackling was a complete embarrassment. Nick McLoud should be cut today for his laughable effort on the game tying TD at the end of regulation.
RE: RE: RE: We're in year one of a three year rebuild.  
Maijay : 12/5/2022 8:56 am : link
In comment 15933540 BlueVinnie said:
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In comment 15933405 Maijay said:


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In comment 15933383 MOOPS said:


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We're in year one of a brand new GM, brand new Head Coach and brand new OC.
Expect growing pains on all levels.
The garbage is being sorted out and a foundation is being poured. The overwhelming majority are buying in and the ones that aren't will be gone soon enough.
The playoffs are within reach, a feat almost nobody would have thought possible a mere three months ago.
Did I mention meaningful games in December?
Sit back and enjoy the show.


Your assessment is spot on.The team has many holes to fill and the current coach and GM are competent at their jobs. The negative obsession with Daniel Jones is profound on this site. He is a fair to middling QB who might be the answer. If their draft position allows them to draft a potential franchise QB please do it. DJ has heart and at least he's a good back up QB. We have the right to be optimistic about the future. I think the team is in good hands both administratively and coaching wise.


If your QB is "fair to middling" (and I'm not certain that Jones can even achieve that level) then that QB is NOT the answer.

Read the whole sentence the word "might" is in there. Furthermore, if the Giants determine there is a draft worthy QB in next years draft and they have the draft capital then draft the guy. We all have our opinions but we are not the experts. If DJ is back next year in some capacity the gm/ coach feel that he is of value to the team on some level.
The moral victory crowd out in force today  
HomerJones45 : 12/5/2022 9:29 am : link
The formula worked for three quarters - defense and Barkley and the go-ahead 20 yard "drive" in the 3rd quarter.

Don't look now but the UDFA quarterback took his team 90 yards in 2 minutes on the road to tie the game. And when the ball was put in the hands of our #1 pick, the 6th pick in the entire draft to take the team down for a winning FG with time on the clock? Zip, Nada. During OT when a FG would have won the game. Zero. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
RE: RE: Coach playing  
Photoguy : 12/5/2022 9:34 am : link
In comment 15933297 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15933272 BigBlueJ said:


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scared, cost us a victory. Joe Judge special.



Yeah, it does seem like the early season Daboll- play to win- has been taken over by this current Daboll- playing not to lose.


Not to be argumentative, but I'd like to see what the starting lineups for Sept-Oct looked like, compared to Nov-Dec. We're using guys who weren't even on the roster the first 5 or 6 weeks. I don't know much, but I'd tend to think that might have something to do with the conservative approach. Maybe I'm way off base, I don't know.
And look for a new qb room next season  
HomerJones45 : 12/5/2022 9:37 am : link
Jones is a free agent, and you are all seeing in real time the confidence level they have in his abilities. If Taylor can't beat Jones out, you have to wonder about paying him $7 million.

And no boys, you don't run out and get receivers to bolster your crappy 6 yard an attempt qb. You do as Buffalo did, you get the wideout when the qb shows he can use such a player.

The tackling was awful  
JonC : 12/5/2022 9:38 am : link
Interior OL was awful, the CBs made some really nice plays but were targeted and beaten plenty too. The defense ran out of gas in the fourth quarter, the ILBs are awful as usual.

The offense not being able to do much in the second half, some really suspect coaching and tactical decisions, and the constant mistakes snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Failing to go up 10 late in the game gave WASH the crack they needed.
RE: The moral victory crowd out in force today  
rsjem1979 : 12/5/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15933687 HomerJones45 said:
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The formula worked for three quarters - defense and Barkley and the go-ahead 20 yard "drive" in the 3rd quarter.

Don't look now but the UDFA quarterback took his team 90 yards in 2 minutes on the road to tie the game. And when the ball was put in the hands of our #1 pick, the 6th pick in the entire draft to take the team down for a winning FG with time on the clock? Zip, Nada. During OT when a FG would have won the game. Zero. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.


Seems to me that the "moral victory" crowd is populated by people who want to stay the course with the QB and RB, and as such it's in their best interests to view the performance positively.

Point blank, they scored 20 points, 7 of which came on a 20-yard drive thanks to the defense. If the Giants had won 20-13, they'd be praising the QB. Instead it's "not on him". As always.
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ChrisRick : 12/5/2022 9:44 am : link
I don't see a big deal with keeping Barkley as long as it does not handicap the team. I don't think keeping Barkley is as simple as 'yes, no' 'bad, good'. The type of contract matters.
RE: RE: RE: RE: We're in year one of a three year rebuild.  
BlueVinnie : 12/5/2022 10:03 am : link
In comment 15933624 Maijay said:
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We're in year one of a brand new GM, brand new Head Coach and brand new OC.
Expect growing pains on all levels.
The garbage is being sorted out and a foundation is being poured. The overwhelming majority are buying in and the ones that aren't will be gone soon enough.
The playoffs are within reach, a feat almost nobody would have thought possible a mere three months ago.
Did I mention meaningful games in December?
Sit back and enjoy the show.


Your assessment is spot on.The team has many holes to fill and the current coach and GM are competent at their jobs. The negative obsession with Daniel Jones is profound on this site. He is a fair to middling QB who might be the answer. If their draft position allows them to draft a potential franchise QB please do it. DJ has heart and at least he's a good back up QB. We have the right to be optimistic about the future. I think the team is in good hands both administratively and coaching wise.


If your QB is "fair to middling" (and I'm not certain that Jones can even achieve that level) then that QB is NOT the answer.


Read the whole sentence the word "might" is in there. Furthermore, if the Giants determine there is a draft worthy QB in next years draft and they have the draft capital then draft the guy. We all have our opinions but we are not the experts. If DJ is back next year in some capacity the gm/ coach feel that he is of value to the team on some level.

I read the whole the sentence.I saw you used the word "might". I'm saying if the QB is "fair to middling" there is absolutely no question as to whether he "might" be the answer. He is NOT.
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