NFT: MLB Winter Meetings Thread

And Rodon? He’ll pitch half the season and regress to his 4 ERA. You can almost guarantee this match.

are determined to get one of the SSs..

Will just increase pressure on Mets to improve.

Sean Murphy to the Braves... but like WHAT?

Didn't the Braves send both their catchers to the ASG this year? (they did.. )

reportedly interested in Dansby Swanson.

In comment 15933659 Gmanfandan said:

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Sean Murphy to the Braves... but like WHAT? Didn't the Braves send both their catchers to the ASG this year? (they did.. )

ATL beat writers refuted that rumor this morning. Our annual pursuit of Bryan Reynolds is a go.

at the top of their wishlist.

The Braves, Yankees, and Rockies are all interested in Bryan Reynolds.

The Braves received interest in catcher Manny Pina.

There's no bargains to be found in FA at the top-end, and Mets are going to have to pay dearly for at least two pitchers and that's before they even can address the bullpen and CF.

In comment 15933702 Metnut said:

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There's no bargains to be found in FA at the top-end, and Mets are going to have to pay dearly for at least two pitchers and that's before they even can address the bullpen and CF.

it may be hard but it's also pretty simple. if you go through their playoff roster there are probably only 3 hitters they will need to replace (nimmo the only starter). baty/vientos could replace the other 2.

bullpens are bullpens.

they need to land 1 of verlander/rodon.
then 1 of bassitt/senga/etc.

i know there's more to it but most of those guys are going to go wherever they are offered the most money, so in that respect it's simple though likely costly.

In comment 15933702 Metnut said:

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There's no bargains to be found in FA at the top-end, and Mets are going to have to pay dearly for at least two pitchers and that's before they even can address the bullpen and CF.

Lately there have been good deals to be had for teams willing to wait. But Mets have been quick to strike in FA in the Cohen era.

and even after this:

they need to land 1 of verlander/rodon.
then 1 of bassitt/senga/etc.

they still need 1 of Walker, Wacha, Smyly, etc. a veteran lower cost starter, someone in that category.

That would leave:
Scherzer
Verlander/Rodon
Bassitt/Senga
Walker/Wacha/Smyly
Megill
Peterson

am I missing anyone?

And let the analytics department fill out the rest of the roster

In comment 15933762 pjcas18 said:

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and even after this: they need to land 1 of verlander/rodon. then 1 of bassitt/senga/etc. they still need 1 of Walker, Wacha, Smyly, etc. a veteran lower cost starter, someone in that category. That would leave: Scherzer Verlander/Rodon Bassitt/Senga Walker/Wacha/Smyly Megill Peterson am I missing anyone?

Luchessi and Butto each may have an outside shot at competing with Megill and Peterson though the latter 2 are probably a cut above. Last year the Mets used 10 starts plus 1 BP game, so I think 10 is a reasonable number of potential starters you want to have counting some younger guys at AAA even if unproven (like Butto). Elieser Hernandez could make #10.

my preferred target for the 3rd veteran SP spot is Trevor Williams because he's a 2 for 1. If he wins the spot over Peterson or Megill or Butto im good with that. If he goes to swing man role good with that too. and you can pretty comfortably give him a 2 or 3 year deal knowing that he has the position flex to do a lot of different things.

Senga is my preferred second signing because I perceive some upside in the unknown and his age, though i dont know much about him. And if Bassitt walks that's an extra $750k in draft pool and no loss in IFA $. No issues bringing back Bassitt though.

1 other thing id look to do is trade Carrasco and then use that money to resign Walker. Younger, more upside, and should be similar in price. if Nimmo bolts, I'd try to swap him for Kike Hernandez who I think would fit this team perfectly. He mashes lefties and can go get it just as well as Nimmo in CF (among all his other positions).

so my ideal depth chart would be:
Scherzer
JV or Rodon
Senga or Bassitt
Walker
Williams / Peterson / Megill / Butto / Luchessi / Hernandez

is the perfect Yankee signing, will lose velocity in spring training, start slow and then get hurt.

if they lose deGrom and Nimmo and only do something like Verlander and Taillon.

Before losing deGrom they needed a mid-level starter and now after losing him they need to add a front-end starter to that.

If they lose Nimmo then the lineup takes a hit and in my opinion they will have to be in on Reynolds via trade or maybe Trea Turner and move McNeil to RF and Marte to CF, at least I’m the short term. Personally, if we think Nimmo is leaving and Judge is just sitting there unresolved, I don’t know how we don’t at least make an offer.

All this is on top of bullpen and DH which needs to be addressed.

In comment 15933818 Chris684 said:

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if they lose deGrom and Nimmo and only do something like Verlander and Taillon. Before losing deGrom they needed a mid-level starter and now after losing him they need to add a front-end starter to that. If they lose Nimmo then the lineup takes a hit and in my opinion they will have to be in on Reynolds via trade or maybe Trea Turner and move McNeil to RF and Marte to CF, at least I’m the short term. Personally, if we think Nimmo is leaving and Judge is just sitting there unresolved, I don’t know how we don’t at least make an offer. All this is on top of bullpen and DH which needs to be addressed.

respectfully disagree about the lineup taking a big hit if they lose Nimmo. McNeil likely moves up to leadoff, and there's an argument to be made that he is the more dangerous hitter anyway. Nimmo had 43 XBH last year, McNeil had 49 and won the freaking batting championship and even had the higher OBP. Leadoff is a more natural fit for his skill set than hitting 5th or lower like he did a lot last year. Move McNeil up and there's an argument the lineup #1-4 is actually fractionally better thanks to him. In 530 career at bats hitting from leadoff position Mcneil has slashed .308/.370/.483 for an 853 OPS. All comparable to Nimmo last year.

the defense takes a hit and of course the lineup needs to figure out 5 and lower, but to some degree that is the case with or without Nimmo because nobody they have is an ideal 5 hitter. they should be able to use whatever $ doesn't go to Nimmo to find a middle order bat that can add some real power.

he kind of fits their offensive philosophy but i think id prefer bellinger for defense and the likely shorter term commitment. or conforto to add some extra upside offensively and because that would be a good comeback story. he always seemed well liked in the lockerroom.

MLBTR projects:
4 years 54m for Benintendi
1 year 15m for Conforto
no projection on Bellinger but he's looking for a 1 year so presumably somewhere close to Conforto

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Any names in Rule 5 Draft to keep an eye on?