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Carolina expected to release Baker Mayfield

jeff57 : 12/5/2022 10:44 am
Rapoport.

Niners?
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Purdy is better than Mayfield  
BigBlue7 : 12/5/2022 10:46 am : link
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wow that's  
Pork Chop : 12/5/2022 10:46 am : link
crazy. I've never been a Mayfield fan, but going from #1 overall to released mid-season is quite a trip.
RE: Purdy is better than Mayfield  
jeff57 : 12/5/2022 10:47 am : link
In comment 15933865 BigBlue7 said:
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Even if true, would be worth picking him up as insurance.
Tepper  
Costy16 : 12/5/2022 10:47 am : link
Is such a God-awful owner. LMAO. This guy thinks you can just pluck guys off the street to be QB.
49ers  
Jerry in_DC : 12/5/2022 10:49 am : link
Is a great idea. Great situation for both sides. Having something at QB in SF makes the season more interesting and gives a better chance for someone to beat Dallas and Philly in the playoffs
2018 Draft is  
Pork Chop : 12/5/2022 10:50 am : link
exhibit A on "you can't trust college player rankings". Top 10 picks of QBs included Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen.
I have my criticisms of Jones  
Sean : 12/5/2022 10:52 am : link
But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.
He was a pretty efficient QB  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2022 10:55 am : link
in Cleveland where they had probably the best OL and running game in the league. This tends to make things a bit easier on the QB. That running game was legit and not really QB dependent.

Even in his better years it seemed to me Cleveland was protecting him with how he they seemed to not throw downfield often.
49ers need to have reps waiting outside the Panthers facility.  
FStubbs : 12/5/2022 10:59 am : link
Whatever one may think about Mayfield, you can't find a guy like him out on the street this time of the season usually.

I think he's as good as Garropollo so the Niners would be back in the saddle.
Comes across as very difficult to work with  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2022 10:59 am : link
which can fly in some positions but not at QB. Add in his shortcomings and I don’t think there’s many places he can go to and succeed. SF makes sense on a vet min contract to restablish value ahead of FA, but not much else.
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ryanmkeane : 12/5/2022 11:00 am : link
would have to think that Mayfield would be a better option than Purdy with that roster
RE: 49ers need to have reps waiting outside the Panthers facility.  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2022 11:02 am : link
In comment 15933899 FStubbs said:
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Whatever one may think about Mayfield, you can't find a guy like him out on the street this time of the season usually.

I think he's as good as Garropollo so the Niners would be back in the saddle.


Agree. Has some mobility and KS likes that. They have a very good run game and the D is outstanding. Pretty similar to his best year in Cleveland. Just don't mess it up and make a few big plays a game and be efficient.
Yet, some on BBI think he is a good  
ZogZerg : 12/5/2022 11:02 am : link
NFL QB

LOL
If that is true Mayfield has to pass through waivers  
jvm52106 : 12/5/2022 11:03 am : link
(which he should) BUT, if you are a team like Seattle, Washington, Detroit etc. trying to block the Niners from gaining help you could put a claim in for him.

I doubt anyone will do that however.
I hate to see him homeless  
Giantsfan79 : 12/5/2022 11:05 am : link
he looked so happy in the TV commercials living at the stadium.
Mayfield is not good  
5BowlsSoon : 12/5/2022 11:07 am : link
Just rewatch our game for proof.
RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
riceneggs : 12/5/2022 11:10 am : link
In comment 15933884 Sean said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.


If DJ wouldve been drafted by the Browns, then traded to the Panthers (under Tepper)...it wouldve been the same story

Giants management is just more patient
RE: 2018 Draft is  
mfsd : 12/5/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15933877 Pork Chop said:
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exhibit A on "you can't trust college player rankings". Top 10 picks of QBs included Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen.


Yup. As awful as Giants front office has been for a decade, it's worth noting a lot of people who think they could do a better job would have climbed over everyone to draft one of those guys
He's an interesting fit  
mittenedman : 12/5/2022 11:12 am : link
in Shanahan's offense.
The question isn't if Mayfield is better than Purdy  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/5/2022 11:19 am : link
The question is if Mayfield is a better backup than their practice squad QB.
RE: 2018 Draft is  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2022 11:20 am : link
In comment 15933877 Pork Chop said:
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exhibit A on "you can't trust college player rankings". Top 10 picks of QBs included Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen.

It's also why you don't rule out drafting a QB simply because you don't start with a top 10 pick.

Buffalo started out with the 21st pick, before making two trades to go get Josh Allen at 7.

Baltimore started out with the 52nd pick, before trading up to take Lamar Jackson at 32.
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broadbandz : 12/5/2022 11:25 am : link
Wow, what are the giants doing? Two qb's better than Jones on the market, Mayfield and Rosen.
RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
81_Great_Dane : 12/5/2022 11:32 am : link
In comment 15933884 Sean said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.
This.

I literally face-palmed at the Jones pick but he's turned out to be far, far better than more hyped prospects including Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky.
Mayfield is no great shakes  
Producer : 12/5/2022 11:35 am : link
but he was much better in CLE than he showed in CAR. He's worth a gamble for someQB needy team. I agree SF is an interesting landing spot.
RE: Mayfield is no great shakes  
jvm52106 : 12/5/2022 11:45 am : link
In comment 15934012 Producer said:
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but he was much better in CLE than he showed in CAR. He's worth a gamble for someQB needy team. I agree SF is an interesting landing spot.


Considerring the Niners signed Josh Johnson, he of his 65th team signed by, they most certainly could be in the market for Mayfield.
RE: RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2022 11:52 am : link
In comment 15934004 81_Great_Dane said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.

This.

I literally face-palmed at the Jones pick but he's turned out to be far, far better than more hyped prospects including Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky.

Jones and Trubisky are virtually identical through four seasons. And Wentz had accomplished more than Jones through his first four seasons.

I'm not sure how you can give DJ the win over either of them if you're only looking at the same apples-to-apples timeframes for each player respectively.

Versus Mayfield, I'd give a very close edge to DJ, but mostly because Mayfield seems like a headache (though Mayfield's productivity in Cleveland was better than DJ's has been here). Rosen is the only one of that list that DJ is clearly ahead of at the same point in their respective careers. Hooray. DJ is better than a QB that many had pegged as a bust before he was even drafted.
The important thing to understand is  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/5/2022 12:02 pm : link
the differences in Cleveland to Carolina. He has shown efficiency with the right type of team as he showed where he struggles with a different type of team.

From the two you have a pretty good indication of where he stands and what he needs get the most out of his ability and where he falters. Not unlike most QB's.
Drafting a qb early can carry great risks or lead to great rewards.  
Ira : 12/5/2022 12:07 pm : link
It's a high stakes gamble.
RE: Mayfield is no great shakes  
Toth029 : 12/5/2022 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15934012 Producer said:
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but he was much better in CLE than he showed in CAR. He's worth a gamble for someQB needy team. I agree SF is an interesting landing spot.


Stefanski is a great offensive mind.

McAdoo is a clown.
RE: I hate to see him homeless  
cosmicj : 12/5/2022 12:21 pm : link
In comment 15933920 Giantsfan79 said:
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he looked so happy in the TV commercials living at the stadium.


LOL. I think the Giants should sign him, either once he’s released or after the season is over. If you had told people in 2020 that Mayfield would be unceremoniously released mid season in 2022, their first thought would be, “ok, who did he murder?” Because it’s that crazy what’s happened to him.
RE: RE: RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
jeff57 : 12/5/2022 12:30 pm : link
In comment 15934050 Gatorade Dunk said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.

This.

I literally face-palmed at the Jones pick but he's turned out to be far, far better than more hyped prospects including Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky.


Jones and Trubisky are virtually identical through four seasons. And Wentz had accomplished more than Jones through his first four seasons.

I'm not sure how you can give DJ the win over either of them if you're only looking at the same apples-to-apples timeframes for each player respectively.

Versus Mayfield, I'd give a very close edge to DJ, but mostly because Mayfield seems like a headache (though Mayfield's productivity in Cleveland was better than DJ's has been here). Rosen is the only one of that list that DJ is clearly ahead of at the same point in their respective careers. Hooray. DJ is better than a QB that many had pegged as a bust before he was even drafted.


Darnold is better? Wentz?
RE: RE: I hate to see him homeless  
Tom in NY : 12/5/2022 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15934114 cosmicj said:
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he looked so happy in the TV commercials living at the stadium.



LOL. I think the Giants should sign him, either once he’s released or after the season is over. If you had told people in 2020 that Mayfield would be unceremoniously released mid season in 2022, their first thought would be, “ok, who did he murder?” Because it’s that crazy what’s happened to him.


Why would the Giants want to bring that drama, with low upside, into their locker room? No thanks, I'll pass. Then again, I never liked him coming out of Oklahoma....I'm not a fan of shorter QBs, especially those that are borderline athletic enough for the NFL.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/5/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15934139 jeff57 said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.

This.

I literally face-palmed at the Jones pick but he's turned out to be far, far better than more hyped prospects including Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky.


Jones and Trubisky are virtually identical through four seasons. And Wentz had accomplished more than Jones through his first four seasons.

I'm not sure how you can give DJ the win over either of them if you're only looking at the same apples-to-apples timeframes for each player respectively.

Versus Mayfield, I'd give a very close edge to DJ, but mostly because Mayfield seems like a headache (though Mayfield's productivity in Cleveland was better than DJ's has been here). Rosen is the only one of that list that DJ is clearly ahead of at the same point in their respective careers. Hooray. DJ is better than a QB that many had pegged as a bust before he was even drafted.



Darnold is better? Wentz?

You're right - he's better than Darnold, too.

But at four years into each of their respective careers, Wentz was light years ahead of where DJ is right now. If anything Wentz (and others not mentioned here, like Goff) are the cautionary tale that should cause a reasonable person to tap the brakes on DJ's next contract.
RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
Blue21 : 12/5/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15933884 Sean said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.
Good point
RE: RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
Gruber : 12/5/2022 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15934426 Blue21 said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.

Good point


Except that it's not true.
When the Browns chose Mayfield with the first over all pick, there was widespread surprise. There definitely was not a consensus that Mayfield was the best available. News leaked just before that they were going with him. It wasn't applauded by most, it was much more of, "hmmm, interesting."
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BillKo : 12/5/2022 4:15 pm : link
In comment 15933905 ryanmkeane said:
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would have to think that Mayfield would be a better option than Purdy with that roster


At least as a backup right?

I mean what if Purdy gets hurt? LOL

Pickup Mayfield as insurance, maybe you get lightning in a bottle if Purdy really starts to struggle.

Really hurts San Fran..........
RE: RE: I hate to see him homeless  
Adirondack GMen : 12/5/2022 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15934114 cosmicj said:
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he looked so happy in the TV commercials living at the stadium.



LOL. I think the Giants should sign him, either once he’s released or after the season is over. If you had told people in 2020 that Mayfield would be unceremoniously released mid season in 2022, their first thought would be, “ok, who did he murder?” Because it’s that crazy what’s happened to him.


So we sign OBJ this month and after he signs we tell him we’re releasing Jones and bringing in Mayfield…that’ll make a great off season read…The tabloid couldn’t get the next edition out fast enough….🤣
RE: RE: RE: I have my criticisms of Jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 12/5/2022 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15934624 Gruber said:
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But, the fact that the Jones pick was largely mocked by everyone in the media, while the Mayfield pick was applauded by most is hilarious.

Good point



Except that it's not true.
When the Browns chose Mayfield with the first over all pick, there was widespread surprise. There definitely was not a consensus that Mayfield was the best available. News leaked just before that they were going with him. It wasn't applauded by most, it was much more of, "hmmm, interesting."


As opposed to the Jones pick which was a resounding "wahhhh"
Skippy Brainless  
Spider43 : 12/5/2022 6:39 pm : link
Is sad.
Must have walked into the head coaches office  
ghost718 : 12/5/2022 6:48 pm : link
and said "I'm transferring to Oklahoma"

Nothing more needed to be said,they knew what it meant
RE: 49ers need to have reps waiting outside the Panthers facility.  
sharp315 : 12/6/2022 8:27 am : link
In comment 15933899 FStubbs said:
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Whatever one may think about Mayfield, you can't find a guy like him out on the street this time of the season usually.

I think he's as good as Garropollo so the Niners would be back in the saddle.

He goes to waivers - he is not a free agent unless he clears waivers. 9ers are near the bottom of the waiver list. I would be surprised if a team higher on the waiver list doesn't snag him first.
RE: Must have walked into the head coaches office  
sharp315 : 12/6/2022 8:29 am : link
In comment 15934937 ghost718 said:
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and said "I'm transferring to Oklahoma"

Nothing more needed to be said,they knew what it meant

He asked for his release because he was benched. Can't blame him. I think he'll get a starting job and decent money for 2023 season. He went the playoffs so there will always be teams that think they can revive his career.
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