Verlander a lot. But $43 mill per??? I guess not unexpected seeing as how Scherzer got that much.
He’s the reigning cy and it’s short term. I think we have such a different ownership structure than anyone else (not to mention previous Wilponzi) that we should cut all deals in half to see how it impacts the roster.
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
Well..of any player in all of sports ever, I am quite confident Nimmo will not only call the Mets before he signs with another team, but will also apologize for leaving.
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“This isn’t the end for the #Mets, and Justin was told as much. This roster that we see will not be the same team that we see on Opening Day. I know that’s going to be the case, and Justin is just so pumped up.” #LGM
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
It will be interesting to see how upset guys are when (if) he leaves. Does anyone find it strange there hasn’t been one comment from a certain someone’s teammates since he left how many home grown, HOF level aces leave, and nit a peep from the guys in the org?
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
It will be interesting to see how upset guys are when (if) he leaves. Does anyone find it strange there hasn’t been one comment from a certain someone’s teammates since he left how many home grown, HOF level aces leave, and nit a peep from the guys in the org?
🤔
that's a minor fringe benefit of replacing him with Conforto - it seemed like he was also popular in the clubhouse.
i hope nimmo comes back and maybe this is like when bernie williams was "leaving" the yanks, but the economics are hard to figure. Cots has the CBT payroll at 285m already.
id imagine mcneil and alonso's feelings are mostly wrapped up in getting their own extensions this offseason.
"always make sure you lockdown your catcher early in FA"
Katie Woo @katiejwoo
1m
In meeting with reporters today, John Mozeliak indicated he's hopeful the #STLCards leave San Diego with a starting catcher.
Obviously many variables will impact this, but it's clear the Cardinals want to find their backstop ASAP.
We know they are one of the smartest orgs in baseball. But let’s hope they are somehow desperate and all other options fall off the table. That wou,d be awesome. For the roster to be able to somehow move McCann.
maybe im crazy but i think it's easier to save $ on carrasco
google doc from 1 of the FG writers. this is from the trade candidates tab. would love to know what the price is on one of the diamondback CFs.
bumgarner and a CF for carrasco saves AZ a bunch of money but only adds 2m to mets for CBT purposes. saves AZ $10m cash this year and another 14m next year.
think something like McCann for DeJong (release DeJong) (saves 13 million, Cardinals get McCann at 2 years 6.5 per) and then signing a Barnhart/Casali as Alvarez insurance is a realistic way to go.
that's a good resource but it also lacks context. For example, with Varsho reportedly Arizona would be willing to discuss him if "blown away" (4.6 fWAR would do that for you). They are reportedly in BIG on Bogaerts. I don't doubt a Thomas or McCarthy could potentially be moved, Varsho could undoubtedly cost the Mets a very, very high prospect price.
that's a good resource but it also lacks context. For example, with Varsho reportedly Arizona would be willing to discuss him if "blown away" (4.6 fWAR would do that for you). They are reportedly in BIG on Bogaerts. I don't doubt a Thomas or McCarthy could potentially be moved, Varsho could undoubtedly cost the Mets a very, very high prospect price.
yeah i wasn't suggesting which AZ CF just that they have extras they are shopping and whichever one they are shopping most is the one id be interested in because they all seem to play good D and have offensive upside (presumably mccarthy or thomas).
the key thing id suggest is eating the extra $ on Bumgarner for Carrasco because that's a way for Cohen to use his $ to buy a player/prospect without increasing the luxury tax payroll. putting bumgarner with verlander and sherzer would be pretty epic in a historical sense so who knows if maybe he has 1 more decent year in him.
Man, the Padres are wild. They are going to give Soto 400-500 million and were still willing to give Turner "more than" 300 million? Or was the plan to let Soto walk?
Man, the Padres are wild. They are going to give Soto 400-500 million and were still willing to give Turner "more than" 300 million? Or was the plan to let Soto walk?
i think they have to be expecting Machado to opt out and paying turner would have likely been with the expectation of not extending machado or soto (who knows how much that's even in their control, Boras could be planning to take him to FA no matter what).
Tatis is "cheap" for like 3 or 4 more years and id imagine he's no longer the untouchable face of the franchise they thought he'd be so hedging him is probably a good idea.
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
Kevin Kiermaier OPS+ since 2018 = 88. OBP... .296. 33 in April. 2020 DRS in CF +10 in 46 games, 2021 +13... *2022 +2*, 2020 OAA +4, 2021 +11, *2022...+1*. He's also played 100+ games *twice* since 2016. Hard pass #Mets
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
So he's Tai Walker? Lol
Realistically, yeah he belongs in the same tier as Walker with Senga offering some of the element of surprise in year 1.
moze - it's the "shiny new toy"! Just because they put on a new uniform there is always hope! I am guilty of it, as well. The perception would be Senga is an upgrade because he is new face. I am sure I'll buy in on whomever replaces Nimmo (if he signs elsewhere).
interesting blurb from rosenthal re diamondbacks payroll
• Unless Diamondbacks owner Ken Kendrick is willing to make a free-agent splash, something he has done at times in the past, it would qualify as an upset if the team emerged as the high bidder for free-agent shortstop Xander Bogaerts.
The Diamondbacks’ interest in Bogaerts is not necessarily a surprise, considering general manager Mike Hazen was in the Red Sox’s front office for the first four seasons of Bogaerts’ career. But the team finished last season with a $93 million payroll, and its estimated commitments for next season already are $101 million.
That said, Kendrick can be a wild card. He came out of nowhere in free agency when the Diamondbacks signed Zack Greinke to a six-year, $206.5 million contract in Dec. 2015, and again when they signed Madison Bumgarner to a five-year, $85 million deal in Dec. 2019.
Madison Bumgarner is making 23m cash this year (but only counts 16.6m against lux tax). Next year he makes $14m. So a swap with Carrasco not only gives AZ the player who was worth 2 fwar more last year but also saves Arizona's owner $9m cash this year and $14m cash next year while only netting the Mets +2.6m against the lux tax this year.
that is a situation i'd be trying very hard to take advantage of with 1 of their young centerfielders coming back to replace nimmo. mccarthy was worth 2.3 fwar last year and has played a slightly positive CF defensively in 184 MLB innings (+2 DRS, +1 OAA). Alek Thomas hasn't hit yet but his CF defense was very good last year in 900 innings +6 DRS, +6 OAA which is comparable to how Nimmo graded out and maybe a drop better (and obviously better than mccarthy's since he played there over him).
Not sure if that's enough for either but a move like this filling CF cheaply would allow the mets to pursue better FA SP and RP. Worst case scenario either player would appear to be a very good LH 4th OF who could mix in with Canha and upgrade the naquin role. i cant imagine they have very many options to get rid of bumgarner.
who was decent in the 4th OF role but certainly not a difference maker.
would rather try to swipe one of the AZ guys or Kike. or Bellinger, but if healthy i think Conforto + Keiermaier is probably better ROI than Bellinger.
Steamer projects KK at .230/.289/.364, 85 wRC+, for context James McCann posted an 80 wRC+ in 2021 and Tyler Naquin posted an 81 wRC+ with @Mets in 2022 #Mets
this trade evaluator is supposedly accurate on 90% of real trades
love to read a Megill update that includes how they intend on attacking his issue with lefties. Maybe he's a RP long-term (I think Shecky strongly feels this way) but regardless of role, his ability to get lefties out (or inability to do so) will be huge.
a CF option so I doubt the Mets will be involved here but who knows?
Jeff Passan
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Star Japanese outfielder Masataka Yoshida has officially been posted, sources tell ESPN. He'll have 30 days to sign a deal with an MLB team. There is significant interest in the 29-year-old, who this year hit .335/.447/.551 with 80 walks and 41 strikeouts for the Orix Buffaloes.
a CF option so I doubt the Mets will be involved here but who knows?
Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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Star Japanese outfielder Masataka Yoshida has officially been posted, sources tell ESPN. He'll have 30 days to sign a deal with an MLB team. There is significant interest in the 29-year-old, who this year hit .335/.447/.551 with 80 walks and 41 strikeouts for the Orix Buffaloes.
so here's an idea not necessarily for Yoshida but any LF.
Canha for Kike ($ is equal, mets get CF, sox get a 3 win OF at a reasonable price, mets may even get a small +)
meanwhile LF now open for Conforto, Yoshida, or a creative move like Contreras if the LF rumors are legit (he could also catch occasionally with mcneil or baty in LF and guillorme at 2b).
they can solve the CF defense issue and open up LF to add a true #5 hitter to upgrade the lineup.
id prefer to keep canha as a 4th OF and deal either ruf or carrasco (or do the bumgarner idea) but opening up LF is a way to dramatically improve the lineup post-Nimmo.
actually very high on Yoshida, he's just a very poor OF. He's LF only (maybe even 1b, but passable in LF). I'd be all about signing him but just don't see the fit here.
actually very high on Yoshida, he's just a very poor OF. He's LF only (maybe even 1b, but passable in LF). I'd be all about signing him but just don't see the fit here.
the lineups biggest need with or without Nimmo is a strong #5 hitter with some power. DH and LF are the 2 easiest positions to find that type of player and all of canha/vogelbach/ruf should be movable.
if they add a CF who they plan to effectively platoon with Canha (with him playing a little more CF and RF this year treating him as more of a platoon OF than full time starter) then LF opens up. Especially if it's a poor defender who they will want to DH on occasion (like it sounds like Yoshida is).
in that instance then they should try to move at least 1 of Vogelbach/Ruf and maybe both to clear out DH at bats.
Jack Ramsey
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Joel Sherman says on MLBN the Mets' preferences are Kodai Senga and Jameson Taillon.
seems like they are prioritizing upside. cant deny the appeal. getting a guy like wheeler who improves and becomes a relative bargain is what it's all about.
as things turned out it's too bad they didn't double up with gausman last year (which i believe they said they would have done if he had agreed to sign here).
Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
Senga is especially intriguing with such low mileage on his arm http://baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=senga-000kod
3:22 PM · Mar 23, *2017*
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He's going to have to really, REALLY want to be a career Met to be coming back. Odds, optimistically, are 5%.
assuming they replace in FA would you go conforto reunion or bellinger?
Verlander, Hernandez, Brigham
They have many holes to fill (not even including the fact they have 3 total OF's on the 40 man roster as of right now)
Verlander and Toledo really cover all the holes. Everything else is gravy.
He’s the reigning cy and it’s short term. I think we have such a different ownership structure than anyone else (not to mention previous Wilponzi) that we should cut all deals in half to see how it impacts the roster.
This like like 2/43 for 80% of the league.
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He's going to have to really, REALLY want to be a career Met to be coming back. Odds, optimistically, are 5%.
If he wanted to be a career Met, he wouldn't have hired Boras as his agent. He's as good as gone, just a matter of time.
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
Well..of any player in all of sports ever, I am quite confident Nimmo will not only call the Mets before he signs with another team, but will also apologize for leaving.
@genymets
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“This isn’t the end for the #Mets, and Justin was told as much. This roster that we see will not be the same team that we see on Opening Day. I know that’s going to be the case, and Justin is just so pumped up.” #LGM
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& @FlippinBatsPod
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
It will be interesting to see how upset guys are when (if) he leaves. Does anyone find it strange there hasn’t been one comment from a certain someone’s teammates since he left how many home grown, HOF level aces leave, and nit a peep from the guys in the org?
🤔
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Sheck.
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
It will be interesting to see how upset guys are when (if) he leaves. Does anyone find it strange there hasn’t been one comment from a certain someone’s teammates since he left how many home grown, HOF level aces leave, and nit a peep from the guys in the org?
🤔
that's a minor fringe benefit of replacing him with Conforto - it seemed like he was also popular in the clubhouse.
i hope nimmo comes back and maybe this is like when bernie williams was "leaving" the yanks, but the economics are hard to figure. Cots has the CBT payroll at 285m already.
id imagine mcneil and alonso's feelings are mostly wrapped up in getting their own extensions this offseason.
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In meeting with reporters today, John Mozeliak indicated he's hopeful the #STLCards leave San Diego with a starting catcher.
Obviously many variables will impact this, but it's clear the Cardinals want to find their backstop ASAP.
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Katie Woo @katiejwoo
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In meeting with reporters today, John Mozeliak indicated he's hopeful the #STLCards leave San Diego with a starting catcher.
Obviously many variables will impact this, but it's clear the Cardinals want to find their backstop ASAP.
We know they are one of the smartest orgs in baseball. But let’s hope they are somehow desperate and all other options fall off the table. That wou,d be awesome. For the roster to be able to somehow move McCann.
carrasco for kike is the deal i'd like to will into reality this offseason. dan got the bassitt trade last year, this year it's my turn.
bumgarner and a CF for carrasco saves AZ a bunch of money but only adds 2m to mets for CBT purposes. saves AZ $10m cash this year and another 14m next year.
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
the guys in the org?
🤔
Stop it, we all know you're Kevin Plawecki's dad
I'd bet he has one renaissance season someday but too big of a bet to take...
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
the guys in the org?
🤔
Stop it, we all know you're Kevin Plawecki's dad
pleasee tell me thats a snablats reference cause I'm laughing like it is.
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Billy Eppler on Brandon Nimmo: "There is still dialogue."
What the hell does he know? Weren’t we told all year he’s a puppet for my dad?? Lol
the guys in the org?
🤔
Stop it, we all know you're Kevin Plawecki's dad
pleasee tell me thats a snablats reference cause I'm laughing like it is.
I think it’s just referencing Shecky’s love for MVPlaw.
yeah i wasn't suggesting which AZ CF just that they have extras they are shopping and whichever one they are shopping most is the one id be interested in because they all seem to play good D and have offensive upside (presumably mccarthy or thomas).
the key thing id suggest is eating the extra $ on Bumgarner for Carrasco because that's a way for Cohen to use his $ to buy a player/prospect without increasing the luxury tax payroll. putting bumgarner with verlander and sherzer would be pretty epic in a historical sense so who knows if maybe he has 1 more decent year in him.
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Free-agent reliever Tommy Kahnle heading back to Yankees on two-year deal, source tells @TheAthletic
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i think they have to be expecting Machado to opt out and paying turner would have likely been with the expectation of not extending machado or soto (who knows how much that's even in their control, Boras could be planning to take him to FA no matter what).
Tatis is "cheap" for like 3 or 4 more years and id imagine he's no longer the untouchable face of the franchise they thought he'd be so hedging him is probably a good idea.
@Joelsherman1
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Kahnle has no option in Yankees deal. Straight two years. $5.75M each season.
@Jacob_Resnick
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The #Mets have re-signed relievers Tommy Hunter and Sean Reid-Foley to Minor League contracts.
Hunter made 18 appearances in the Majors last season. Reid-Foley was non-tendered after undergoing Tommy John surgery in May.
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Mets will consider Kevin Kiermaier if they are unable to re-sign Brandon Nimmo
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
So he's Tai Walker? Lol
Jon Heyman
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Mets will consider Kevin Kiermaier if they are unable to re-sign Brandon Nimmo
Yeah.. yuck
Would rather roll the dice on Bellinger
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teams in on Senga including the Mets
I like Senga (I've pushed for him for 2 years now) but I think expectations are beyond what is realistic. His FB (despite the velocity) plays down. His split/ghost fork will be the deciding factor in his performance. 3-4 at the MLB level.
So he's Tai Walker? Lol
Realistically, yeah he belongs in the same tier as Walker with Senga offering some of the element of surprise in year 1.
moze - it's the "shiny new toy"! Just because they put on a new uniform there is always hope! I am guilty of it, as well. The perception would be Senga is an upgrade because he is new face. I am sure I'll buy in on whomever replaces Nimmo (if he signs elsewhere).
The Diamondbacks’ interest in Bogaerts is not necessarily a surprise, considering general manager Mike Hazen was in the Red Sox’s front office for the first four seasons of Bogaerts’ career. But the team finished last season with a $93 million payroll, and its estimated commitments for next season already are $101 million.
That said, Kendrick can be a wild card. He came out of nowhere in free agency when the Diamondbacks signed Zack Greinke to a six-year, $206.5 million contract in Dec. 2015, and again when they signed Madison Bumgarner to a five-year, $85 million deal in Dec. 2019.
Madison Bumgarner is making 23m cash this year (but only counts 16.6m against lux tax). Next year he makes $14m. So a swap with Carrasco not only gives AZ the player who was worth 2 fwar more last year but also saves Arizona's owner $9m cash this year and $14m cash next year while only netting the Mets +2.6m against the lux tax this year.
that is a situation i'd be trying very hard to take advantage of with 1 of their young centerfielders coming back to replace nimmo. mccarthy was worth 2.3 fwar last year and has played a slightly positive CF defensively in 184 MLB innings (+2 DRS, +1 OAA). Alek Thomas hasn't hit yet but his CF defense was very good last year in 900 innings +6 DRS, +6 OAA which is comparable to how Nimmo graded out and maybe a drop better (and obviously better than mccarthy's since he played there over him).
Not sure if that's enough for either but a move like this filling CF cheaply would allow the mets to pursue better FA SP and RP. Worst case scenario either player would appear to be a very good LH 4th OF who could mix in with Canha and upgrade the naquin role. i cant imagine they have very many options to get rid of bumgarner.
would rather try to swipe one of the AZ guys or Kike. or Bellinger, but if healthy i think Conforto + Keiermaier is probably better ROI than Bellinger.
@JonHeyman
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Padres offer to Trea Turner was for more than the Lindor ($341M) deal
Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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Star Japanese outfielder Masataka Yoshida has officially been posted, sources tell ESPN. He'll have 30 days to sign a deal with an MLB team. There is significant interest in the 29-year-old, who this year hit .335/.447/.551 with 80 walks and 41 strikeouts for the Orix Buffaloes.
Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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Star Japanese outfielder Masataka Yoshida has officially been posted, sources tell ESPN. He'll have 30 days to sign a deal with an MLB team. There is significant interest in the 29-year-old, who this year hit .335/.447/.551 with 80 walks and 41 strikeouts for the Orix Buffaloes.
so here's an idea not necessarily for Yoshida but any LF.
Canha for Kike ($ is equal, mets get CF, sox get a 3 win OF at a reasonable price, mets may even get a small +)
meanwhile LF now open for Conforto, Yoshida, or a creative move like Contreras if the LF rumors are legit (he could also catch occasionally with mcneil or baty in LF and guillorme at 2b).
they can solve the CF defense issue and open up LF to add a true #5 hitter to upgrade the lineup.
id prefer to keep canha as a 4th OF and deal either ruf or carrasco (or do the bumgarner idea) but opening up LF is a way to dramatically improve the lineup post-Nimmo.
the lineups biggest need with or without Nimmo is a strong #5 hitter with some power. DH and LF are the 2 easiest positions to find that type of player and all of canha/vogelbach/ruf should be movable.
if they add a CF who they plan to effectively platoon with Canha (with him playing a little more CF and RF this year treating him as more of a platoon OF than full time starter) then LF opens up. Especially if it's a poor defender who they will want to DH on occasion (like it sounds like Yoshida is).
in that instance then they should try to move at least 1 of Vogelbach/Ruf and maybe both to clear out DH at bats.
@jackwramsey
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Joel Sherman says on MLBN the Mets' preferences are Kodai Senga and Jameson Taillon.
@jackwramsey
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Joel Sherman says on MLBN the Mets' preferences are Kodai Senga and Jameson Taillon.
seems like they are prioritizing upside. cant deny the appeal. getting a guy like wheeler who improves and becomes a relative bargain is what it's all about.
as things turned out it's too bad they didn't double up with gausman last year (which i believe they said they would have done if he had agreed to sign here).
@WexlerRules
Senga is especially intriguing with such low mileage on his arm http://baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=senga-000kod
3:22 PM · Mar 23, *2017*