Where are you guys with Darius Slayton? He’s proven that he can be a productive receiver in this league, but he’s very very inconsistent. With his pending free agency, do you guys think he’ll be re-signed or will he gets more money somewhere else. I’m open to re-signing him but I’m not breaking the back either. Something along the lines of 4-5 mil AAV.
That sums it up.
It’s god damn hilarious that one of the people who bitch and moan that there’s too many Daniel Jones arguments on this site is turning this into a Daniel Jones thread.
Might be out until the offseason when Jones is gone.
Now we hear it. Everyone is a bunch of losers that doesn't agree with your opinion. Yet you remain on this thread so you can whine and complain more. LMAO.
Man,-- thank you. You crack me up. LMAO. hahahaha I love it!!!
One player is even with another in regards to that stat was what you were showing, correct? How is that not comparing both players by giving them a number as you did? You offered the number so you could compare the 2 players.
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Getting attacked for saying Slayton is serviceable and not trash. This board is filled with a whole lot of losers.
It’s god damn hilarious that one of the people who bitch and moan that there’s too many Daniel Jones arguments on this site is turning this into a Daniel Jones thread.
Might be out until the offseason when Jones is gone.
Now we hear it. Everyone is a bunch of losers that doesn't agree with your opinion. Yet you remain on this thread so you can whine and complain more. LMAO.
Man,-- thank you. You crack me up. LMAO. hahahaha I love it!!!
No you’re the loser. This thread was a great discussion about Slayton until you came in here bitching about any positive opinions on Slayton being some cheap shot at Jones. Your posts have nothing to do with opinions, they’re just attacks because your head is so far in Daniel Jones crotch that nobody is allowed to talk positively about any other player on the Giants (even though I’m not sure saying someone is serviceable is that large of a compliment). You’re the only one bitching in this thread.
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I compared the stat, not the skill of the player.
One player is even with another in regards to that stat was what you were showing, correct? How is that not comparing both players by giving them a number as you did? You offered the number so you could compare the 2 players.
The stat was offered to say simply say this:
Hey, maybe Slayton's catching% isn't as bad as we think because it falls in line with players such a X,Y,Z, etc. So, maybe he's not the stone hands being suggested...
It’s god damn hilarious that one of the people who bitch and moan that there’s too many Daniel Jones arguments on this site is turning this into a Daniel Jones thread.
Might be out until the offseason when Jones is gone.
Feels like we are trending towards needing 2 more years of evaluation on Jones. Between upgrading the roster and the time needed to develop chemistry, it's feeling like we're going to have to do at least 6 years of evaluation to know what we have.
I think we'll know by then, but if Kafka leaves or we have injuries, we might have to push out to 7 or 8
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Getting attacked for saying Slayton is serviceable and not trash. This board is filled with a whole lot of losers.
It’s god damn hilarious that one of the people who bitch and moan that there’s too many Daniel Jones arguments on this site is turning this into a Daniel Jones thread.
Might be out until the offseason when Jones is gone.
Now we hear it. Everyone is a bunch of losers that doesn't agree with your opinion. Yet you remain on this thread so you can whine and complain more. LMAO.
Man,-- thank you. You crack me up. LMAO. hahahaha I love it!!!
No you’re the loser. This thread was a great discussion about Slayton until you came in here bitching about any positive opinions on Slayton being some cheap shot at Jones. Your posts have nothing to do with opinions, they’re just attacks because your head is so far in Daniel Jones crotch that nobody is allowed to talk positively about any other player on the Giants (even though I’m not sure saying someone is serviceable is that large of a compliment). You’re the only one bitching in this thread.
But you didn't just keep it about the discssuion did you? You had ot og and dig other psoters for not agreeign with your pov, right? Here is what you said--
Where's the technical talk? The data? You just wanted to dig at others. SO now it comes back and you and you whine?
From you-
"Obviously he’s not AJ Brown but he’s also not the trash some on here claim he is."
Where's the technical talk? The data etc? You just wanted to dig at others. So now it comes back at you and you whine?
So if you say Jones isn’t as bad as people say on here is that a dig? Jesus Christ man go outside and touch some grass.
Slayton plays for the Giants too. A bunch of Giants fans saying he's decent really should draw this much ire. Maybe he needs more PR about how he gets to work at the crack of 8 AM....
So if you say Jones isn’t as bad as people say on here is that a dig? Jesus Christ man go outside and touch some grass.
So saying other posters are wrong is not a dig? And you stated this long beofre I 1st replied.
And read another post you sent below on page 1 before I joined.
So when YOU dig on Jones and other posters YOU SAY the thread is going fine. But when it's turned- then all of a sudden the thread is ruined? I man c'mon. Again you want it to be your opinion and no one elses. Otherwise you dig. If you are okay with everyone else's then stop whining.
"It’s amazing that Only one player on this team is being held back and gets defended. And if you dare defend another player it’s an anti Jones agenda, even though he wasn’t mentioned here at all.
Saqoun is quitting. Slayton is garbage. Really fascinating to look at."
The above quote from you is a sarcastic dig at other posters while also digging at Jones too, right?
Slayton plays for the Giants too. A bunch of Giants fans saying he's decent really should draw this much ire. Maybe he needs more PR about how he gets to work at the crack of 8 AM....
Your comments are pretty laughable. So you do realize that SY has crapped on SLayton, right?
So who do we go with? A nutjob like you?
or SY?
I remember a few months ago where even the faintest criticism of Jones was met with attacks that you weren’t a Giants fan. This is what gets you upset?
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I compared the stat, not the skill of the player.
One player is even with another in regards to that stat was what you were showing, correct? How is that not comparing both players by giving them a number as you did? You offered the number so you could compare the 2 players.
Because it's a fact. It's not some subjective comparison.
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Always people from the Jones club crapping on other QBs, talking about how great other teams "supporting" players are, and crapping on every Giants player except Jones.
Slayton plays for the Giants too. A bunch of Giants fans saying he's decent really should draw this much ire. Maybe he needs more PR about how he gets to work at the crack of 8 AM....
Your comments are pretty laughable. So you do realize that SY has crapped on SLayton, right?
So who do we go with? A nutjob like you?
or SY?
Sy said that DJ's throw on Slayton's drop was just as much DJ's fault as it was DS's.
We can go with Sy's opinion if you'd like.
If you slot him as a starter, as a #2, then you bring him back. But the Giants aren't likely to be keen on that. They are going to be shopping in free agency and the draft to improve their top two options. Wan'Dale is injured, yes. But you can get by even if your inhouse candidates like Hodgins and Marcus Johnson return, for less money out of the slot until Wan'Dale returns.
Plus slot is the easier position to fill, and Slayton isn't suited to that role.
So you bring him back as a depth piece to start in case one of your top two go down? At league minimum, sure. But I imagine there will be other newcomers to fill out the depth.
So you can't pay him $4M to be your 4th receiver, at best. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it isn't the way you allocate your cap dollars in a rebuild. For these reasons, he will either be back on a 1-year, vet min deal or similar, or he'll find greener pastures, or he'll be out of the league (least likely scenario).
I remember a few months ago where even the faintest criticism of Jones was met with attacks that you weren’t a Giants fan. This is what gets you upset?
First off you agree then that I didn't start the mention of Jones, right? You were replying to other posters that were sort of making positive posts about Jones while digging a bit on Slayton right? There were two other posters that made an implication regarding positive opinions on Slayton being some cheap shot at Jones. So you bullshit me when you said that it was me that started it, right? That's why you mentioned Jones in the 1ts place and started with "It's amazing . . . " Just another example of you being a bullshitter.
And you seem to think that I take it personal when you and others dig at Jones. Read the post I sent to Jerry from DC at 3:25 PM. If you want to to dig on Jones go ahead. If you want to hate him, go for it. But just admit you hate the guy. It’s okay. But you and Jerry and BW and many others have this pretense that you are being fair and maybe you would be but then you begin to dig into others with arrogance and sarcasm etc. fi they don’t agree with you. That would be fine too. But you have to be able to take it coming back at you.
It's okay you dig. Just take it when it comes back at you. And if you want to dig more-- okay. But expect a counter.
I mean look at Jerry now in regards to Slayton. Read his latest post or 2 on Slayton vs the Jones supporters. What if I really do agree with SY’s assertion that the WR core stinks (including Slayton which SY has digged), and all-the-while can’t believe / am amazed that someone like Jerry is wasting this much time defending a 3rd/4th stringer? You mean I’m not supposed to go after someone like Jerry who I have very little respect for while reading what SY has said about the WR core? So, I’m supposed to give Jerry some type of hug? Even though I think he’s wrong on what he says? And as he keeps firing away more posts in the manner he does digging on other posters, don’t you think that warrants some harshness back at him too? That goes for you as well. You could take it. So take it. Don’t be whining though about who blew up the thread. You were already digging other posters with your reply.
How are you this asinine?
But yes, I'd have him back on a lowball prove it deal knowing we need to spend a 1st on a WR and sign a possession WR too.
The clear #1 WR option on the 2022 Giants.
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SO bias haters like you and BW and others who regularly shit on Jones every chance you get - we
re supposed to believe your transparent crap of looking to build up other players so you can make yourself feel better about shitting on Jones?
Just to clear the dense fog that's getting in your head here - no one is saying Slayton is Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Davante Adams, etc.
But Slayton is not this scrap heap player that he's best depicted here.
No, he is not complete shit, but he is no better than a #3 or #4 WR. He is NOT a #2 WR on any team other than the Giants.
Regarding his yardage total for this year, he is really the only guy who has been healthy enough to accumulate those yards.
We need two outside WRs for next year and even a slot guy since Wan'Dale likely won't be ready.
Completely agree ... Hopefully there is a Blue chip WR waiting for us in the first round in 2023. We need a lot of help there. Slayton would be the #3 on any team with above average talent at that position.
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Everyone on this site wanted him cut in training camp. But imagine where we would be without him this year. I appreciate his effort and would love him back at 3rd receiver money.
What another moronic comment you make. Yeah so he is good because ethe Giants WR's have gotten hurt or in Toney’s case just quit on the team. SO that a makes the Slayton discussion from pre-season wrong?
See this is the type of shit that pisses me off about this fucking site. How the fuck am I making a "moronic" comment. Mostly everyone on this site, including me, wanted him cut in training camp. He took a pay cut with the team, and kept his mouth shut. The guy never complained. He got his opportunity and he's producing for us. The only WR on this team worth anything. He's proven everyone on this site wrong. I'll goto war with a player like Slayton any day of the week, and I would welcome him back on the team at the right price.
I believe Hodgins will be a fine one but doesn’t have Slayton’s speed.
Is he a number 1? No. But he’s a very good complimentary receiver. The drop yesterday is fresh on a lot of peoples minds…and they quickly forget the number of clutch catches and big plays he’s made (including one yesterday that led to points and one versus Dallas- both plays were a result of him making a great play on the ball)
If you get a true number 1, Slayton would really thrive with his ability to win vertically and track the deep ball. He’s a big play guy/vertical- not a possession guy.
I’d be happy to have him back at a reasonable price.
Go ahead and name a team that has 4 WR’s better than Slayton. Better yet, find me 75 receivers in the entire league who are better than him. Calling him a number 5 is comical. We aren’t talking about fantasy football league with 10 or 12 teams…
Slayton is a low end number 2, good #3.
Is he a number 1? No. But he’s a very good complimentary receiver. The drop yesterday is fresh on a lot of peoples minds…and they quickly forget the number of clutch catches and big plays he’s made (including one yesterday that led to points and one versus Dallas- both plays were a result of him making a great play on the ball)
If you get a true number 1, Slayton would really thrive with his ability to win vertically and track the deep ball. He’s a big play guy/vertical- not a possession guy.
I’d be happy to have him back at a reasonable price.
Good post. Feel similarly. Slayton at a reasonable price would work. He's a good vertical WR who can get intermediate and deep.
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Getting attacked for saying Slayton is serviceable and not trash. This board is filled with a whole lot of losers.
It’s god damn hilarious that one of the people who bitch and moan that there’s too many Daniel Jones arguments on this site is turning this into a Daniel Jones thread.
Might be out until the offseason when Jones is gone.
Feels like we are trending towards needing 2 more years of evaluation on Jones. Between upgrading the roster and the time needed to develop chemistry, it's feeling like we're going to have to do at least 6 years of evaluation to know what we have.
I think we'll know by then, but if Kafka leaves or we have injuries, we might have to push out to 7 or 8
Rome wasn’t built in a day.
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Everyone on this site wanted him cut in training camp. But imagine where we would be without him this year. I appreciate his effort and would love him back at 3rd receiver money.
What another moronic comment you make. Yeah so he is good because ethe Giants WR's have gotten hurt or in Toney’s case just quit on the team. SO that a makes the Slayton discussion from pre-season wrong?
Without Slayton this offense would be literally just Saquon getting stuffed at the line and DJ scrambling. We'd be average about 50 yards a game. Get real. Slayton is the only receiver on this time right now.
Is he a number 1? No. But he’s a very good complimentary receiver. The drop yesterday is fresh on a lot of peoples minds…and they quickly forget the number of clutch catches and big plays he’s made (including one yesterday that led to points and one versus Dallas- both plays were a result of him making a great play on the ball)
If you get a true number 1, Slayton would really thrive with his ability to win vertically and track the deep ball. He’s a big play guy/vertical- not a possession guy.
I’d be happy to have him back at a reasonable price.
Shep
Robinson
Neal
are all more important to this offense.
Heck, I'd even put Bellinger over Slayton.
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Behind Saquon, Thomas and Jones that he’s been the 4th most valuable player on offense.
Is he a number 1? No. But he’s a very good complimentary receiver. The drop yesterday is fresh on a lot of peoples minds…and they quickly forget the number of clutch catches and big plays he’s made (including one yesterday that led to points and one versus Dallas- both plays were a result of him making a great play on the ball)
If you get a true number 1, Slayton would really thrive with his ability to win vertically and track the deep ball. He’s a big play guy/vertical- not a possession guy.
I’d be happy to have him back at a reasonable price.
Shep
Robinson
Neal
are all more important to this offense.
Heck, I'd even put Bellinger over Slayton.
Breeze is talking about players who have played.
Kirk got $18 M/year, Chark got $10 M, Zay Jones got 8, Gage got 10, Gallup $11
If we could keep him on a cheap contract it would be a really good deal for us considering how desperate we are at receiver and what the market looks like now
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Behind Saquon, Thomas and Jones that he’s been the 4th most valuable player on offense.
Is he a number 1? No. But he’s a very good complimentary receiver. The drop yesterday is fresh on a lot of peoples minds…and they quickly forget the number of clutch catches and big plays he’s made (including one yesterday that led to points and one versus Dallas- both plays were a result of him making a great play on the ball)
If you get a true number 1, Slayton would really thrive with his ability to win vertically and track the deep ball. He’s a big play guy/vertical- not a possession guy.
I’d be happy to have him back at a reasonable price.
Shep
Robinson
Neal
are all more important to this offense.
Heck, I'd even put Bellinger over Slayton.
3 of the 4 guys you just mentioned are rookies on rookie contracts who don't need new deals. Shep is never playing football again. Even in 2019 and 2020 he was behind Slayton in receiving yards.
but if you do the math on his drop percentage, its not as bad as you think, compared to others.
Second worst in the league isn't as bad compared to ONE other. Literally only one person drops the ball at a higher rate than Slayton. WTF are you talking about?
Easily outplayed his rookie contract.
Just tough to pay a guy to catch a ball when he isn't that great at it.
Easily outplayed his rookie contract.
Just tough to pay a guy to catch a ball when he isn't that great at it.
I dont think he'll be expensive to keep, but speed sells and every team in the NFL is looking for speed and potential at WR. You don't even have to have serious productivity to get a Christian Kirk contract.
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But he is what he is. A fast WR with limited ball skill and bad hands. I like that he can get open and stretch the defense.
Easily outplayed his rookie contract.
Just tough to pay a guy to catch a ball when he isn't that great at it.
I dont think he'll be expensive to keep, but speed sells and every team in the NFL is looking for speed and potential at WR. You don't even have to have serious productivity to get a Christian Kirk contract.
If he's inexpensive I'd resign him in a heartbeat. But I think he will look to cash in on his productivity...he might even have a bad taste in his mouth after he took a pay cut for us.
Easily outplayed his rookie contract.
Just tough to pay a guy to catch a ball when he isn't that great at it.
I do think having a burner at the Y receiver keeps a defense honest. If Golladay was even a fraction of what he was supposed to be I think Slayton in the Y as a deep threat and Golladay of old in the X would have been a nice compliment. Golladay might not be back in the league next year at this rate and Slayton might be on another team.