Yep. It was reported as basically a done deal like this and changed at the last minute.
Bernie agreed to the deal with Boston and was about to sign. He called George to say that he was going to leave but really wanted to be a Yankee. George ponied up the money and got it done before any press conferences happened with the Red Sox. The Yankees had a deal ready for Albert Belle if I remember and called that off at the last second and he went to Baltimore.
Aaron Judge predicted Giants tenure, marriage to wife Sam
Aaron Judge was a passionate Giants fan while growing up in Linden, Calif. As a senior at Linden High School, Judge made a prediction to his then-girlfriend, now-wife Samantha Bracksieck about his future playing baseball in the Bay Area.
“I said, in 10 years, I’ll be married to Sam and playing for the San Francisco Giants,” Judge recalled to Sean Gregory of TIME Magazine. "I was like, 'That’d better not get out.' "
Sure Judge is not the first professional athlete that has said that to their friends, family,girlfriend that they want to play for their home town team.
that SF and some players there think they have Judge locked up. I think he’s gone. I just hope Cashman doesn’t make panic moves.
I think he's gone personally but every minute that passes makes it more likely that he actually hasn't made up his mind (at least not 100%) as Heyman and others seem to have thought.
It’s been over an hour now and this is still bullshit
I’ve got no problem saying that in a world where Cody friggin Bellinger is worth that, Judge is worth $40m. The Yankees have more money than anyone. They should never be outbid. They print money.
RE: RE: It’s been over an hour now and this is still bullshit
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
that SF and some players there think they have Judge locked up. I think he’s gone. I just hope Cashman doesn’t make panic moves.
I think he's gone personally but every minute that passes makes it more likely that he actually hasn't made up his mind (at least not 100%) as Heyman and others seem to have thought.
It’s perfectly legit to hammer Heyman for jumping the gun here. He deserves it. But he didn’t just throw a dart at the wall. He obviously heard something. Also SF reporters are saying they’ve been told by players and execs have told them Judge is headed to SF.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Are you an idiot, a Met fan or both ? "Foundational Rot ?" Is that how you describe a franchise that hasn't had a losing season in well over a quarter of a century and has gone to the playoffs in over 75% of those seasons ? Ancient history ? Lets just take the period of Judge's career. 6 seasons, 6 trips to the playoffs and 3 ACLS's. Certainly its a disappointment that they've only that they've only won 5 rings in 30 years, but unfortunately there are 29 other teams.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Are you an idiot, a Met fan or both ? "Foundational Rot ?" Is that how you describe a franchise that hasn't had a losing season in well over a quarter of a century and has gone to the playoffs in over 75% of those seasons ? Ancient history ? Lets just take the period of Judge's career. 6 seasons, 6 trips to the playoffs and 3 ACLS's. Certainly its a disappointment that they've only that they've only won 5 rings in 30 years, but unfortunately there are 29 other teams.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
They are worth 7B, and have a revenue north of 700M a year.
Now they are counting pennies, preaching "process" when there are no results to show, and making up excuses like injuries and Astros cheating, but we are okay with that?
Then we deserve Cashman as the GM for life perhaps.
I read that as Judge told the Yankees he wants $400 million, they may have not have committed to it on the spot or have played hardball with him and he wanted to put the fear of God into them.
Ultimately I think that is what it will take to keep him here, $400 million. His agent and himself have played this perfectly.
The Yankees, not so much. Cashman is an asshole for leaking the original offer and a part of me completely gets why Judge is sticking it to them right now whether he resigns or not.
clutching rosary beads at the winter meetings hoping Judge returns is such a weak look. This franchise has lost its edge - I want Judge back too but there’s no reason for the fate of the franchise to hinge on it.
Except that the owner then was the Steinbrenner who loved baseball & the Yankees,& would do anything to win.George matched the Red Sox offer in a one on one sit down with Bernie. This Steinbrenner doesn't love the Yankees,it's questionable if he even likes baseball,is only about the bottom line which is why he will keep the Yankees competitive, but winning a championship only means 3-4 more games of revenue in the World Series. And, the reason he continues to pursue Judge is about the revenue,not the Yankee legacy! Good enough is good enough Hal!
Now they are counting pennies, preaching "process" when there are no results to show, and making up excuses like injuries and Astros cheating, but we are okay with that?
Then we deserve Cashman as the GM for life perhaps.
Bingo. If this was the Cardinals or the Dodgers, we could actually trust that they’d be able to let Judge walk and use a combo of the farm system and available resources to keep a highly competitive team. This ain’t that. So they need to use their one true advantage, which is MONEY.
Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Yes they do not finish, but is there another team in the same time period close to to making the postseason 20 out of 22 years?
That's because Hal knows that in order to make a profit, the Yankees must be competitive. He allows Cashman some leeway to maintain that competitiveness, but winning it all only means 3-4 extra games of revenue!Because for Hal, Good enough is good enough!
I think his last injury was a collapsed lung that took 5 months to find...while I agree that $40 mill for 10 years is way too much, it has more to do with diminishing skills in the last 5 years vs injury. He is not Giancarlo Stanton.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Are you an idiot, a Met fan or both ? "Foundational Rot ?" Is that how you describe a franchise that hasn't had a losing season in well over a quarter of a century and has gone to the playoffs in over 75% of those seasons ? Ancient history ? Lets just take the period of Judge's career. 6 seasons, 6 trips to the playoffs and 3 ACLS's. Certainly its a disappointment that they've only that they've only won 5 rings in 30 years, but unfortunately there are 29 other teams.
You’re an idiot - keep running the same stupid team out there year after year. Who gives a shit about the regular season. You’re not winning the World Series with this strategy. Cashman is rot. He’s been given a pass and now a 4 year extension. Sign him to a 360 9 year deal. Let’s see how this works out
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yanks have foundational rot at their core
Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Yes they do not finish, but is there another team in the same time period close to to making the postseason 20 out of 22 years?
That's because Hal knows that in order to make a profit, the Yankees must be competitive. He allows Cashman some leeway to maintain that competitiveness, but winning it all only means 3-4 extra games of revenue!Because for Hal, Good enough is good enough!
I would say where they spend their money is more of a problem then how much they spend. And that is on talent evals by Cash & Co. I.e., not getting Verlander 5(?) years ago.
Hal's mistake is keeping Cashman...
Look around the league. The "top tier" free agents are massive annual numbers for contract lengths taking them near or past 40. Seems that's just the marketplace.
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
With or without Judge, the leadership of the Yankees going into next season does not inspire confidence. The signing of Cashman may spell four more years of the same? Very good, likely playoff run, but not enough to be great. Anyone really think we can compete against Houston when the chips are down? They are ahead of the Yankees and putting distance between.
And Judge may be factoring that in? We will likely never know the answer to that if he does leave. I do think if he leaves, it won't be just about the money.
Would like him to stay, my only hope that if he does leave, that the front office gets a bit of a wakeup call. But I doubt it...I could see the FO replacing Judge with Brett G.
Look around the league. The "top tier" free agents are massive annual numbers for contract lengths taking them near or past 40. Seems that's just the marketplace.
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
Look around the league. The "top tier" free agents are massive annual numbers for contract lengths taking them near or past 40. Seems that's just the marketplace.
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
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DK, Bernie almost signed with the Sox right?
Yep. It was reported as basically a done deal like this and changed at the last minute.
Bernie agreed to the deal with Boston and was about to sign. He called George to say that he was going to leave but really wanted to be a Yankee. George ponied up the money and got it done before any press conferences happened with the Red Sox. The Yankees had a deal ready for Albert Belle if I remember and called that off at the last second and he went to Baltimore.
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Tom Dierberger
Tue, December 6, 2022 at 1:45 PM
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Aaron Judge was a passionate Giants fan while growing up in Linden, Calif. As a senior at Linden High School, Judge made a prediction to his then-girlfriend, now-wife Samantha Bracksieck about his future playing baseball in the Bay Area.
“I said, in 10 years, I’ll be married to Sam and playing for the San Francisco Giants,” Judge recalled to Sean Gregory of TIME Magazine. "I was like, 'That’d better not get out.' "
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I think he's gone personally but every minute that passes makes it more likely that he actually hasn't made up his mind (at least not 100%) as Heyman and others seem to have thought.
Delete.
Bellinger signed with the Cubs.
Delete.
While I think this should be deleted, you’re still fucking annoying. Go away.
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Announcing Donaldson as the #3 hitter all season?
Bellinger signed with the Cubs.
$17.5m.
I’ve got no problem saying that in a world where Cody friggin Bellinger is worth that, Judge is worth $40m. The Yankees have more money than anyone. They should never be outbid. They print money.
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All this was is speculation.
Delete.
While I think this should be deleted, you’re still fucking annoying. Go away.
Lmao. The feeling’s mutual dipshit! How about I don’t and you fuck right off?
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All this was is speculation.
Delete.
While I think this should be deleted, you’re still fucking annoying. Go away.
Lmao. The feeling’s mutual dipshit! How about I don’t and you fuck right off?
LOL bwitz does this every thread. He jus tells people to fuck off LOl
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Announcing Donaldson as the #3 hitter all season?
Bellinger signed with the Cubs.
Bellinger might be gone but Conforto is right there for the taking!
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
You do the same shtick every thread dude. People notice when you contribute nothing but being an asshole.
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that SF and some players there think they have Judge locked up. I think he’s gone. I just hope Cashman doesn’t make panic moves.
I think he's gone personally but every minute that passes makes it more likely that he actually hasn't made up his mind (at least not 100%) as Heyman and others seem to have thought.
It’s perfectly legit to hammer Heyman for jumping the gun here. He deserves it. But he didn’t just throw a dart at the wall. He obviously heard something. Also SF reporters are saying they’ve been told by players and execs have told them Judge is headed to SF.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
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Yes they win the division or the wildcard.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Are you an idiot, a Met fan or both ? "Foundational Rot ?" Is that how you describe a franchise that hasn't had a losing season in well over a quarter of a century and has gone to the playoffs in over 75% of those seasons ? Ancient history ? Lets just take the period of Judge's career. 6 seasons, 6 trips to the playoffs and 3 ACLS's. Certainly its a disappointment that they've only that they've only won 5 rings in 30 years, but unfortunately there are 29 other teams.
Probably Sox
good 1
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Then we deserve Cashman as the GM for life perhaps.
Ultimately I think that is what it will take to keep him here, $400 million. His agent and himself have played this perfectly.
The Yankees, not so much. Cashman is an asshole for leaking the original offer and a part of me completely gets why Judge is sticking it to them right now whether he resigns or not.
Except that the owner then was the Steinbrenner who loved baseball & the Yankees,& would do anything to win.George matched the Red Sox offer in a one on one sit down with Bernie. This Steinbrenner doesn't love the Yankees,it's questionable if he even likes baseball,is only about the bottom line which is why he will keep the Yankees competitive, but winning a championship only means 3-4 more games of revenue in the World Series. And, the reason he continues to pursue Judge is about the revenue,not the Yankee legacy! Good enough is good enough Hal!
Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Yes they do not finish, but is there another team in the same time period close to to making the postseason 20 out of 22 years?
Then we deserve Cashman as the GM for life perhaps.
Bingo. If this was the Cardinals or the Dodgers, we could actually trust that they’d be able to let Judge walk and use a combo of the farm system and available resources to keep a highly competitive team. This ain’t that. So they need to use their one true advantage, which is MONEY.
Ciao!
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Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Yes they do not finish, but is there another team in the same time period close to to making the postseason 20 out of 22 years?
That's because Hal knows that in order to make a profit, the Yankees must be competitive. He allows Cashman some leeway to maintain that competitiveness, but winning it all only means 3-4 extra games of revenue!Because for Hal, Good enough is good enough!
Ciao!
I think his last injury was a collapsed lung that took 5 months to find...while I agree that $40 mill for 10 years is way too much, it has more to do with diminishing skills in the last 5 years vs injury. He is not Giancarlo Stanton.
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Yes they win the division or the wildcard.
Postseason is different. they aren’t built to win there. Stepping away from judge will hopefully force them to change. I don’t trust cashman unfortunately.
Also why do we think judge won’t miss time. During each of these seasons. He’s only getting older.
Are you an idiot, a Met fan or both ? "Foundational Rot ?" Is that how you describe a franchise that hasn't had a losing season in well over a quarter of a century and has gone to the playoffs in over 75% of those seasons ? Ancient history ? Lets just take the period of Judge's career. 6 seasons, 6 trips to the playoffs and 3 ACLS's. Certainly its a disappointment that they've only that they've only won 5 rings in 30 years, but unfortunately there are 29 other teams.
You’re an idiot - keep running the same stupid team out there year after year. Who gives a shit about the regular season. You’re not winning the World Series with this strategy. Cashman is rot. He’s been given a pass and now a 4 year extension. Sign him to a 360 9 year deal. Let’s see how this works out
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Stats don’t lie: Yanks made the playoffs 20 times since 2000 and only won one championship
So something’s not right
Yes they do not finish, but is there another team in the same time period close to to making the postseason 20 out of 22 years?
That's because Hal knows that in order to make a profit, the Yankees must be competitive. He allows Cashman some leeway to maintain that competitiveness, but winning it all only means 3-4 extra games of revenue!Because for Hal, Good enough is good enough!
I would say where they spend their money is more of a problem then how much they spend. And that is on talent evals by Cash & Co. I.e., not getting Verlander 5(?) years ago.
Hal's mistake is keeping Cashman...
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
And Judge may be factoring that in? We will likely never know the answer to that if he does leave. I do think if he leaves, it won't be just about the money.
Would like him to stay, my only hope that if he does leave, that the front office gets a bit of a wakeup call. But I doubt it...I could see the FO replacing Judge with Brett G.
Let's fucking go.
(I was truly, truly dreading a bad conversation with my 8 year old son. PHEW)
Rosenthal has it too, with numbers. Those guys aren't fucking idiots like Heyman, I think it can be trusted.
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
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Usually above his name, at the bottom of the contract alongside Cashman's and Steinbrenner's....
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Keep shitheads like Cashman and Boone around, pay Giancarlo Stanton until he’s 38 years old, and let your best player walk out the door in his prime.
They didn’t “let” he wants to go to San Fran. You’re acting like yanks offered him $14 a game
I’m stunned that Hal and Cashman still have people willing to make excuses for them.
This hot take didn't age well.
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Look around the league. The "top tier" free agents are massive annual numbers for contract lengths taking them near or past 40. Seems that's just the marketplace.
And perhaps it will prove to be costly and unfruitful for the teams partaking, but the attitude of clubs like LAD, SDP, PHI, NYM and apparently now SFG appears to be that it's the price of poker if you want to be a contender year in and year out.
Surely it doesn't mean that following suit is the only way to play ball, but if this isn't it, what's core competencies or competitive advantages do you have, NYY, that allow you to achieve the same without such contracts?
For the Braves, we've seen that the strategy is to be extremely aggressive about locking up players early. Risky because the players are less proven, but they've saved boatloads on AAV and have contract end dates with the players in their early and mid 30s. This approach has been considered heresy by the NYY with their premiere players since Cano.
For the Rays, it's a constant shuffle of bringing in elite minor leaguers by moving on from solid major league talent before their pay-days, and being aggressive about getting those prospects into the lineup. This doesn't seem to play in the NY market, and NYY have been overly reluctant to give call up bright young players and give them runway. They treat them like china dolls, as if they'll be broken forever if even slightly jostled. They keep them on the shelves, show them off to anyone who comes by the house, but draw no benefit from them other the satisfaction of having told others they have them.
For Houston, it's been a mix of all of the above. Elite talent identification in the draft and IFA. Outstanding development with aggressive approach, and supporting the young core via mostly old free agents short term contracts at high AAVs. If the free agent plays don't work out, it's fine because the term is short and the pipeline is getting the most out of players going through the system and they're not at all afraid to put them on the field as soon as needed. The Yankees haven't shown the slightest capability to operate this way.
NYY has been swearing up and down that they have the infield of the future in-house. The outfield is the mess, and they best outfielder in the game is an unrestricted free agent. And somehow they've let it go this far without getting it figured out.
There's still a lot to play out, but the organization isn't inspiring a lot of confidence right now, and quite frankly I have my concerns even if they are able to retain Judge.
Good post +1
Pffffft. Bwahahahahahaha. More pathetic.