Daboll press conference behavior

consistently - and that you are reading too much into this

Pat Shurmur and Ben McAdoo had no idea how to handle press conferences. Both looked so annoyed from the moment they stepped to the podium, like "I wish I could be anywhere else but here right now"

In comment 15937518 gidiefor said:

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consistently - and that you are reading too much into this

Ok. I don’t agree, but you’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Things were different when the team was 6-1. He is very testy with his responses now. It doesn’t do anyone any good for him to act like that, even if that’s the way he is feeling.

noticed any change. You usually can't tell if the Giants won or lost by his demeanor.

On a side note, you must have absolutely despised Bill Parcells who would call the media Commies to their faces.

I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either.

I can't imagine what it would be like having to address the NY media 5 minutes after losing some of these games.

I think he's doing just fine and that his patience will really be tested after a few of these games coming up - as it is becoming fairly evident that the Giants are over-matched.

At least he doesn't give a 20 minute soliloquy on how the team insn't a clown show like other teams and try to rationalize everything.

He's been pretty consisent about how humbling the game is and not to get too high or too low after the games.

He's been fine by me

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I can't imagine what it would be like having to address the NY media 5 minutes after losing some of these games. I think he's doing just fine and that his patience will really be tested after a few of these games coming up - as it is becoming fairly evident that the Giants are over-matched. At least he doesn't give a 20 minute soliloquy on how the team insn't a clown show like other teams and try to rationalize everything. He's been pretty consisent about how humbling the game is and not to get too high or too low after the games. He's been fine by me

If you watch his old press conference after they won a game, you would have thought we lost.

that was "refreshing" and "real" with the media in the summer, and during our early season success.

It's amazing what losing will do!

he was pissy after dallas (i think) and apologized to the beats.

this is the life cycle in NYC. they're coming at his neck with leading questions, stirring up shit, asking if jobs are safe. it is what it is. it's bound to happen

It is not always said out load but always part of the equation. nyc is not for everyone. some players and coaches can work here... some can't

the eagles game!

In comment 15937533 Eric from BBI said:

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I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either.

I read the transcripts and don't watch the live Pressers. Who are the people he hates? I would guess Pat Leonard for one and I am not sure about the other one (maybe Jordan or Schwartz?)

and I have never had a problem with the way he's handled the press. Is he a little more ornery? Sure, they lost 3 of 4 and then tied a division rival below them in the standings. He should be a little pissed.

In comment 15937580 Essex said:

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In comment 15937533 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either. I read the transcripts and don't watch the live Pressers. Who are the people he hates? I would guess Pat Leonard for one and I am not sure about the other one (maybe Jordan or Schwartz?)

Since the reporters read the site, I'd rather not answer that. But if you watch the pressers, you can tell who is more snarky with. I will say he seems to cut the women more slack.

From keeping their plan to sabotage Jones under wraps

When you’re winning.

Win and you can be a meanie.
Lose (or tie I suppose) and we have to read about your demeanor.

In comment 15937587 ajr2456 said:

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From keeping their plan to sabotage Jones under wraps

Your obsession with Jones is bordering on psychotic. FFS man, give it a rest

it's not going to matter how he deals with the media.

Belichick acts like he wants to crawl under a rock whenever he does press conferences. And he always has.

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In comment 15937587 ajr2456 said: Quote: From keeping their plan to sabotage Jones under wraps Your obsession with Jones is bordering on psychotic. FFS man, give it a rest

It’s a joke based on idiotic comments made today. Have a snickers and lighten up

I’ve got no issue with Daboll and I didn’t have an issue with Judge either until the Chicago game.

They're a waste of time unless you enjoy vapid coachspeak.

I don’t agree.

Just good enough not to lose the team. I don't need anything more than that; any time Daboll is spending prepping for press conferences is one fewer minute he could be focused on the needs of the team.

In comment 15937528 Eric from BBI said:

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noticed any change. You usually can't tell if the Giants won or lost by his demeanor. On a side note, you must have absolutely despised Bill Parcells who would call the media Commies to their faces.

Not sure how anyone can say that.

Daboll was OK in his presser after last week's tie, but there was clearly a difference in his Thanksgiving day post-game presser linked below.

Turkey Day Presser - ( New Window )

dynamic is an interesting one to consider.

I was listening to a Raanan podcast where he had three NY GIants beat guys on and they all said that Judge was their favorite guy to cover.

They all had nice things to say about him especially when he wasn't in front of the mics.

The most pissed he's been is after the Dallas game.

My point is if you watch the pressers after the wins, he's not all smiles. He's usually pretty stoic, even right after the games where he was jumping around like a little kid coming off of the field.

No long, rambling speeches laced with every cliche and platitude in football and coach-speak.

his pressers from training camp next to the one today they will seem the same . You have no clue.

Dr. Phils will get to the bottom of it.

Bigger ?...is he still sporting a wedding rock? If not, we're in trouble. I remember that having legs on BBI this summer...

In comment 15937528 Eric from BBI said:

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noticed any change. You usually can't tell if the Giants won or lost by his demeanor. On a side note, you must have absolutely despised Bill Parcells who would call the media Commies to their faces.

Hahahanaha Tuna’s press conferences were must-see TV

I think it takes him a little time to settle down after a game. I think he is managing it OK. He does not put up with stupid reporters well..

Ref to "behavior" very odd.

I do hope he learns how to control his emotions on the sidelines sometimes he looks out of control and the sends a bad message to the players. The HC has to stay in control. I’m thinking of the illegal man downfield against the Cowgirls, I thought he was going to get a flag for that.

We’re seriously analyzing this?

Find a hobby OP.

And he knows what he needs, blame him for showing signs of flame out?

But I will say that 4 media interviews a week is a lot. I think it's generally Mon, Wed, Fri, and Post-game. The beats ask the same questions all 4 days every single week. I don't know if that's a contractual obligation to do 4 pressers a week but I could see why it quickly becomes tiresome. His attitude was a lot softer when he first came into the role but now he's obviously done like 200+ of these things and I agree he doesn't like it. Some of the beats are especially irritating. I cannot stand Jordan.

This, he shouldn't have to do more than 2 per week; one after the last game and one before the next game.

Some guys were good at it. Parcells had good relationships with a lot of reporters, even if he'd call them "commies" in his pressers. At least one writer who covered the Giants in those days has talked about how Parcells would meet him for coffee and off-the-record, private conversations. Another writer said he liked Parcells because, unlike some other coaches, he wasn't a patronizing asshole who talked to the press like they were idiots. Parcells would say things like "You saw the game" rather than "I have to look at the film."

I don't think Parcells liked it but he was good at it.

R** H** was very bad at it. McAdoo, Shurmur, not very good. Judge, good until it was clear he was full of it. Daboll is probably too hot-tempered to be good at it all the time, he's going to have bad moments, but he's generally ok at it.

There are two things about handling press that a lot of these guys don't understand. They're related. One is: If you don't want to talk about something, just politely say "No comment" or "I'm not going to talk about that right now." They will press you, but just keep saying that and politely ask for a different question. That will flag to the beats that they should look into it, or at least seek an answer later, but that's better than talking about it when you're not ready or willing to.

Related: If you give an answer that is obviously meant to shut off inquiry, all you are doing is telling the press to look into this. Once saw a presser where a guy (not in football) was asked why he left his old job. He said "I left for personal reasons," with an unspoken "period" at the end. Asked again, he just repeated that. I was watching thinking "Everybody in the room is going to start making calls." And they did. They got a story out of it. Maybe that's what he wanted, but I doubt it. He just didn't know how to handle the press. He'd have been better off giving them a useful but not-very-interesting quote and steering them to a different angle.

Eli was the master of the responsive but boring quote. He didn't dodge questions, but he rarely said anything revealing or surprising. He said very little in a lot of words. Good skill for someone who has to talk to the press a lot in pressurized situations.

100 hour weeks and are judged week to week season to season. A lot of pressure and taking to the press is a necessary part of the job but takes them away from doing things to help the team win. Not to excuse rude or jerkish behaviour but that’s the reality.

Nagy was 12-4 and coach of the year and Chicago loved him. Then they couldnt wait to get rid of him. Everyone here was in full bloom love with Joe Judge after year 1. It is a really weird business where you are literally evaluated to polar opposites almost on a week to week basis. I think Daboll has been remarkably consistent in his dealing with the press so I think the OP is way off, but I am sure Daboll knows this honeymoon period can end on a dime.

In comment 15938073 Les in TO said:

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100 hour weeks and are judged week to week season to season. A lot of pressure and taking to the press is a necessary part of the job but takes them away from doing things to help the team win. Not to excuse rude or jerkish behaviour but that’s the reality.

Yes. Also, the places where coaches spend their attention are a million times more complex than what the reporters are asking for. Daboll and staff are looking for every little edge - like in x formation, the defenses safety creeps toward a certain space, how can we exploit that. And the media is like, hey I saw you yelling about something, do you think yelling is good or bad?

It's like Crash Davis said to Nuke in Bull Durham. If you're a star nobody cares that you have fungus on your shower shoes. If you're winning nobody cares what you say or don't say or how you come off at your pressers. Look at Bill Belichick the past 25 years. As other have mentioned look at Parcells. I think Daboll has been fine.

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In comment 15937533 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either. I read the transcripts and don't watch the live Pressers. Who are the people he hates? I would guess Pat Leonard for one and I am not sure about the other one (maybe Jordan or Schwartz?)

Just watched this past one, it's definitely Leonard and Jordan.

In comment 15938146 bigblue5611 said:

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In comment 15937580 Essex said: Quote: In comment 15937533 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either. I read the transcripts and don't watch the live Pressers. Who are the people he hates? I would guess Pat Leonard for one and I am not sure about the other one (maybe Jordan or Schwartz?) Just watched this past one, it's definitely Leonard and Jordan.

yeah these guys do not even watch the games. They just want to ask questions that create controversy.

When teams are winning, those stories are generally favorable ("Here's How Brian Daboll Is Winning Over Giants Fans!"). But when the team is losing, these stories tend to be about locker room dissention, etc. They need a good quote to write a story about, so they ask questions likely to lead to good quotes.

Daboll or any other coach for that matter is not going to throw Kafka under the bus until they themselves are thinking he has to be fired. So, he avoids the little trap they set by not answering the question. Its all part of the game.

In comment 15938147 DefenseWins said:

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In comment 15938146 bigblue5611 said: Quote: In comment 15937580 Essex said: Quote: In comment 15937533 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I have noticed is that he doesn't seem to particularly like two of the reporters. But Judge didn't appear to like these two same guys either. I read the transcripts and don't watch the live Pressers. Who are the people he hates? I would guess Pat Leonard for one and I am not sure about the other one (maybe Jordan or Schwartz?) Just watched this past one, it's definitely Leonard and Jordan. yeah these guys do not even watch the games. They just want to ask questions that create controversy.

I remember when Brandon Brown was first interviewed before the press, the first question Jordan asked him was some crap about going from Philly to New York because the Eagles GM had been upset about it. Jordan is an Eagles shill. The guy is always commenting on how great the Eagles are year after year (I know this year it is deserved but many years it has not).