They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
That they have another 2 years of control of Soto...that trade was fantastic regardless of how he performed in the reg season with them.
We are going to see 2 of the most insane contracts in baseball history the next 2 offseasons with Shohei and Soto.
Mets have a lot of money coming off the books.. in 2024 they will see Cano's $20M drop off, then in 2025 (pending JV's option) they have way more than $100M expiring. Some of the total $120 will be needed to retain Alonso and McNeil, but I think there is some truth to the thoughts others have had that the reason they didn't/aren't going all in on Judge, deGrom, Rodon, or any of the SSs is anticipated pursuit of Ohtani and maybe Soto
I'd rather bring back Benny. Yoshida is a contact hitter (very good) but apparently he's a bad defensive outfielder with a noodle arm. He'd get exposed in Yankee Stadium but you can hide him at Fenway in left field.
They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
Tatis is either going to LF or more likely CF- they started some work on that back last year before all the injuries and suspensions.
Boegaerts is now the SS and Machado is the 3B. Where everyone else falls out is up to the manager to figure out.
Slightly higher AAV, but I think they knew that wouldn't get it done. Chaim Bloom operating like he's running the Rays not the Red Sox. If it's him and not ownership I think Mets fans dodged a bullet by him not interviewing or whatever wound up with him not being Mets GM.
I read the Rays outbid the Red Sox on Zach Elfin.
If you are a Sox fan, watching Betts and now Bogaerts traded or walk in FA has to leave you wondering what next? As a non-Sox fan it's awesome.
(Not a troll), I am sad to see him go as he came up through their organization and played 10 years here. Unlike Betts who turned down an offer from the Sox for the same money per year and only 1 year less, the reports are that the Sox offered only 6 years at around $160m (not $180m-and actually $1.5m per year better than the SD contract). The fact is, Bogaerts cannot be blamed for leaving. The SD offer is ridiculous. 11 years puts Bogaerts at age 41 during his last contract season and ALL money is guaranteed, which is also ridiculous.
Sox should have gone to 8 years and $210m but that's it. Bogaerts already signed 1 contract with Sox at 6 years $120m which was giving a Hometown discount-he could have gotten more.
Sox have gone both ends of the spectrum with GM's. They went from Dombrowski who decimated the minor league pipeline and sells the teams soul for a WS championship to Bloom who is the ultimate cheapskate but builds your minor league pipeline but gives you a budget lineup.
I sure hope they don't let Devers go next year or Sox fans will riot.
The Yankees Got it right. They paid for their icon-Judge. Even if he only plays for 2/3rds of his contract at a high level it was important to the franchise/fans, etc. to do whatever it took to sign him. Hats off to the Yankees.
No way they should have offered $280M over 11 years. But the problems they always seem to have is not making a good enough of an offer early enough. If they had offered $160-180M last year, would that have gotten it done? It might have. The same thing happened with Jon Lester years ago.
That said, these deals for Judge and Bogearts are just too much money with the health uncertainties over a very long contract. And he really isn't a power hitter. I could maybe see that for Betts because he was so much younger at the time of his deal and a more complete player and because he had excellent health, but still it's a lot of money.
I think the way some teams have gone with giving big contracts years before they are up for renewal can be a good strategy in the future. If it was me I'd give Devers a $250M deal right now. Not sure they would be willing or if he would accept it, but worth a try.
No way they should have offered $280M over 11 years. But the problems they always seem to have is not making a good enough of an offer early enough. If they had offered $160-180M last year, would that have gotten it done? It might have. The same thing happened with Jon Lester years ago.
That said, these deals for Judge and Bogearts are just too much money with the health uncertainties over a very long contract. And he really isn't a power hitter. I could maybe see that for Betts because he was so much younger at the time of his deal and a more complete player and because he had excellent health, but still it's a lot of money.
I think the way some teams have gone with giving big contracts years before they are up for renewal can be a good strategy in the future. If it was me I'd give Devers a $250M deal right now. Not sure they would be willing or if he would accept it, but worth a try.
After seeing the money getting thrown around this season, there is a zero percent chance Devers signs a $250M deal right now. He’d be out of his mind. And what exactly have the Sox done to make him want to even stay there? Let alone for an enormous discount
rarely, if ever, do they give these long ten year deals. It is hard to argue though that Henry does not know what he is dong given how he has steered the Red Sox and Liverpool to golden eras.
if they don't wind up signing Devers now, there will be even more empty seats at the Fens. The Sawx and John Henry haven't been willing to spend in the big boys pool since after 2018.
They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
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Why would you DH Machado, arguably the best fielding third baseman in baseball? That is not going to happen. Tatis will either play 2B or the outfield, Bogey wiil play SS, at least in the short term.
RE: Has MLB actually looked into the Padres ownership
finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
RE: RE: Has MLB actually looked into the Padres ownership
finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
Wait. You honestly think Matt was serious about them being crypto bros?
Holy shitballs…
RE: RE: RE: Has MLB actually looked into the Padres ownership
finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
Wait. You honestly think Matt was serious about them being crypto bros?
to small ball intentionally. Get on base, mfgr. runs.
Fans still want some power so they’ll have to try to protect RD with a slugger to go with the new contact hitter.
Their problem during the transition is SP, now that they have at least a co closer in Jensen.
Btw, Story has trouble throwing from 2nd, SS will blow his arm out even earlier. Bloom has drafted 7 SS since he’s been there, so maybe they planned this.
to small ball intentionally. Get on base, mfgr. runs.
Fans still want some power so they’ll have to try to protect RD with a slugger to go with the new contact hitter.
Their problem during the transition is SP, now that they have at least a co closer in Jensen.
Btw, Story has trouble throwing from 2nd, SS will blow his arm out even earlier. Bloom has drafted 7 SS since he’s been there, so maybe they planned this.
Marcelo Mayer is the real deal. But he's in high A, maybe starts next year in AA, but even then, by the time Mayer is entrenched at SS, Bogaerts probably would have come to terms with moving off SS to 3B or 2B.
Ah. Well, it'd be cool if the Padres won it all. I still feel bad for SD that the Bolts bolted-pun intended-to the north. Not that I think people in San Diego give AF...it is hard to be upset when it is 75 & sunny 365.
I've heard a lot of chatter that Sox ownership-the Fenway Sports Group-is hellbent on being the owners of the NBA team in Vegas that is all but guaranteed when the NBA expands in the coming years.
Ah. Well, it'd be cool if the Padres won it all. I still feel bad for SD that the Bolts bolted-pun intended-to the north. Not that I think people in San Diego give AF...it is hard to be upset when it is 75 & sunny 365.
Who wouldn't want to suffer in San Diego's weather 58/60 overnight and 75/80 daytime. Stressful.
This is shaping up to be a good offseason for the Yankees
They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
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We are going to see 2 of the most insane contracts in baseball history the next 2 offseasons with Shohei and Soto.
Mets have a lot of money coming off the books.. in 2024 they will see Cano's $20M drop off, then in 2025 (pending JV's option) they have way more than $100M expiring. Some of the total $120 will be needed to retain Alonso and McNeil, but I think there is some truth to the thoughts others have had that the reason they didn't/aren't going all in on Judge, deGrom, Rodon, or any of the SSs is anticipated pursuit of Ohtani and maybe Soto
I'd rather bring back Benny. Yoshida is a contact hitter (very good) but apparently he's a bad defensive outfielder with a noodle arm. He'd get exposed in Yankee Stadium but you can hide him at Fenway in left field.
They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
Tatis is either going to LF or more likely CF- they started some work on that back last year before all the injuries and suspensions.
Boegaerts is now the SS and Machado is the 3B. Where everyone else falls out is up to the manager to figure out.
Slightly higher AAV, but I think they knew that wouldn't get it done. Chaim Bloom operating like he's running the Rays not the Red Sox. If it's him and not ownership I think Mets fans dodged a bullet by him not interviewing or whatever wound up with him not being Mets GM.
I read the Rays outbid the Red Sox on Zach Elfin.
If you are a Sox fan, watching Betts and now Bogaerts traded or walk in FA has to leave you wondering what next? As a non-Sox fan it's awesome.
Sox should have gone to 8 years and $210m but that's it. Bogaerts already signed 1 contract with Sox at 6 years $120m which was giving a Hometown discount-he could have gotten more.
Sox have gone both ends of the spectrum with GM's. They went from Dombrowski who decimated the minor league pipeline and sells the teams soul for a WS championship to Bloom who is the ultimate cheapskate but builds your minor league pipeline but gives you a budget lineup.
I sure hope they don't let Devers go next year or Sox fans will riot.
The Yankees Got it right. They paid for their icon-Judge. Even if he only plays for 2/3rds of his contract at a high level it was important to the franchise/fans, etc. to do whatever it took to sign him. Hats off to the Yankees.
That said, these deals for Judge and Bogearts are just too much money with the health uncertainties over a very long contract. And he really isn't a power hitter. I could maybe see that for Betts because he was so much younger at the time of his deal and a more complete player and because he had excellent health, but still it's a lot of money.
I think the way some teams have gone with giving big contracts years before they are up for renewal can be a good strategy in the future. If it was me I'd give Devers a $250M deal right now. Not sure they would be willing or if he would accept it, but worth a try.
That said, these deals for Judge and Bogearts are just too much money with the health uncertainties over a very long contract. And he really isn't a power hitter. I could maybe see that for Betts because he was so much younger at the time of his deal and a more complete player and because he had excellent health, but still it's a lot of money.
I think the way some teams have gone with giving big contracts years before they are up for renewal can be a good strategy in the future. If it was me I'd give Devers a $250M deal right now. Not sure they would be willing or if he would accept it, but worth a try.
After seeing the money getting thrown around this season, there is a zero percent chance Devers signs a $250M deal right now. He’d be out of his mind. And what exactly have the Sox done to make him want to even stay there? Let alone for an enormous discount
They won't get Tatis back until sometime in May next year from suspension, but imagine now that middle order with Bogaerts, Tatis, Soto, Machado. Cronenworth another pretty good bat in that lineup. If you have Bogaerts and Tatis on the left side of the infield, you DH Machado full-time? At any rate, that is a formidable top half of the lineup. They still have some work to do filling that roster out, but that is perhaps the best 1-4 in baseball.
Why would you DH Machado, arguably the best fielding third baseman in baseball? That is not going to happen. Tatis will either play 2B or the outfield, Bogey wiil play SS, at least in the short term.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
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finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
Wait. You honestly think Matt was serious about them being crypto bros?
Holy shitballs…
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In comment 15937975 Matt in SGS said:
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finances and made sure they aren't some crypto bros who are pretending to be billionaires but are really worth about 10 bucks? For decades San Diego was always considered a small market who couldn't compete with the big boys salary wise. Either way, happy to see him out of Boston.
Or they could have googled Peter Seidler and see he has been running a private equity firm since 1992. Where in your right mind do you think this is a "crypto bro?"
Wait. You honestly think Matt was serious about them being crypto bros?
Holy shitballs…
Well, jokes are supposed to be funny....
Fans still want some power so they’ll have to try to protect RD with a slugger to go with the new contact hitter.
Their problem during the transition is SP, now that they have at least a co closer in Jensen.
Btw, Story has trouble throwing from 2nd, SS will blow his arm out even earlier. Bloom has drafted 7 SS since he’s been there, so maybe they planned this.
Because they get part of the luxury tax from Dodgers, Yankees, Mets and Red Sox.....partially!
Fans still want some power so they’ll have to try to protect RD with a slugger to go with the new contact hitter.
Their problem during the transition is SP, now that they have at least a co closer in Jensen.
Btw, Story has trouble throwing from 2nd, SS will blow his arm out even earlier. Bloom has drafted 7 SS since he’s been there, so maybe they planned this.
Marcelo Mayer is the real deal. But he's in high A, maybe starts next year in AA, but even then, by the time Mayer is entrenched at SS, Bogaerts probably would have come to terms with moving off SS to 3B or 2B.
Who wouldn't want to suffer in San Diego's weather 58/60 overnight and 75/80 daytime. Stressful.