First off, its being reported that Judge was offered 10-400 from SD and declined. Judge has always wanted to come back to the Yankees and he proved it. Love that guy.
So where do we go from here? We have a very solid team and will be in contention to represent the AL, but we can get better. Houston took a step back losing Verlander and nobody from the AL East made drastic improvements.
Heres what we look like right now:
C: Trevino
1B: Rizzo
2B: Torres/DJLM
SS: IKF/Volpe/Paraza
3B: Donaldson/DJLM
LF: Cabrera?/Hicks
CF: Bader
RF: Judge
DH: Stanton
Starters: Cole/Cortes/Severino/Montas/German
Biggest Need? LF. Ideally it would be someone who hits at the top of the order. Nimmo, Benintendi, trade?
2nd need- I'd argue it's getting rid of Donaldson and/or Torres. Ideally we trade Torres for a pitcher, but I'm not sure how much value he has. That will open up a spot for DJLM and the young guys.
Additionally, we can really use a closer and starter(pref top end).
I think I'd go hard for Nimmo right now. Not sure of the contract numbers he's looking for, but he fills an offensive and defensive need. Gets on base 40% of the time and can push .300 BA.
I'd like Rodon and Nimmo, but I don't know how realistic that would be. If we are limited, I'm signing Nimmo and then trying to trade Torres for a starter. If that doesn't work, I'd sign a lower end starter with upside for the back of the rotation. Maybe a Syndergaard or someone like that.
This lineup will suffice, IMO:
Nimmo
Judge
Rizzo
Stanton
DJLM
Bader
Donaldson
Volpe/Paraza
Trevino
Also, I haven't seen anything regarding what type of contract Andrew Benintendi is looking for? I have seen estimates of four-years between $56 to $70 million
Let Pereza start at SS. Play DJL at 2B until Volpe is ready. Play Cabrera at either 3B or LF, and trade Torres for one of those positions. Hope Dominguez and Volpe are ready by the end of next year.
Or sign Benintendi to a reasonable deal and decide what to do with Bader based on Dominguez’s progress.
Or give out more big contracts. Fine by me too.
Also, I haven't seen anything regarding what type of contract Andrew Benintendi is looking for? I have seen estimates of four-years between $56 to $70 million
Reynolds is a better player than Benintendi at this point but Pittsburgh is notoriously difficult to deal with. They are going to want a ridiculous haul for Reynolds so I highly doubt that happens. Teams looked into Reynolds at the deadline last season and apparently the asking price was absurd
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I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees are working on Carlos Correa
Why would the Yanks want Correa? A guy who was truly deep into the cheating scandal? THAT would DIVIDE the clubhouse.
rich they already have Cole and he was on that team and it is pretty obvious that Spider Tack was in use by him before it was banned.
Cole was not on the ‘17 Astros
He was here in '19...
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I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees are working on Carlos Correa
Why would the Yanks want Correa? A guy who was truly deep into the cheating scandal? THAT would DIVIDE the clubhouse.
rich they already have Cole and he was on that team and it is pretty obvious that Spider Tack was in use by him before it was banned.
Cole was not on the ‘17 Astros
He was here in '19...
GD it, "T" key is worn...He was there in '19.
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"They are in on Rodon, but then I heard that there's something even bigger that they're working on" -
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3:53 PM · Dec 9, 2022
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I have a sneaky feeling the Yankees are working on Carlos Correa
Why would the Yanks want Correa? A guy who was truly deep into the cheating scandal? THAT would DIVIDE the clubhouse.
rich they already have Cole and he was on that team and it is pretty obvious that Spider Tack was in use by him before it was banned.
Cole was not on the ‘17 Astros
He was here in '19...
They weren’t punished for cheating in ‘19. They were punished for cheating in ‘17…
He was here in '19...
What?
They weren’t punished for cheating in ‘19. They were punished for cheating in ‘17…
Everyone knows they cheated in 2019 too....So he was there when they were cheating.
Also, I haven't seen anything regarding what type of contract Andrew Benintendi is looking for? I have seen estimates of four-years between $56 to $70 million
That seems light for Benintendi. Nimmo got 8/$162M and they’re similar players. You never know, but I think he’s gonna get something like 6/$100M. My guess is if they sign Rodon they trade for a guy like Max Kepler or one of Arizona’s outfielders to play left rather than pay Benintendi or give up the type of haul it would take to get Reynolds.
I don’t buy it. Last offseason Olney said the Yankees would be one of the most aggressive teams. He said Freddie Freeman would be their top target and if they miss on him they could pivot to Seager/Correa and that they were going to aggressively upgrade their pen. They did none of those things… He rarely if ever has legit info anymore.
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I don’t buy it. Last offseason Olney said the Yankees would be one of the most aggressive teams. He said Freddie Freeman would be their top target and if they miss on him they could pivot to Seager/Correa and that they were going to aggressively upgrade their pen. They did none of those things… He rarely if ever has legit info anymore.
Michael Kay said yesterday that he’s heard the same exact thing from very trusted sources. He said these were sources not named Buster Olney
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Just like last offseason, and we saw who went further into the postseason..
They might have been in on Correa if Judge was not
re-signed. That ship has sailed now, they will go with the kids. The Mets just signed the Japanese pitcher for reasonable money,
Rodon will cost at least double that!
Arizona has some young outfielders, maybe the Yanks should consider moving Torres for one of them? I'm down on Benintendi myself, wasn't impressed with what I saw from him, before the injury, not at all. Even his defense was not as good as I thought it would be.
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Rodon. After that Benintendi. I just do not see Correa after spending on Judge, Rodon and Benintendi.
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Arizona has some young outfielders, maybe the Yanks should consider moving Torres for one of them? I'm down on Benintendi myself, wasn't impressed with what I saw from him, before the injury, not at all. Even his defense was not as good as I thought it would be.
If that was the case, just keep Cabrera out there. He was VG in right but close to a disaster in left - more from lack of experience, as LF in Yankee Stadium is a bear.
Yankees need a leadoff hitter. Judge leading off is foolish.
The Mets had more holes to fill given their own guys who left in FA (Degrom/Bassit) or needed to be retained (Nimmo). The Yankees have only lost Taillon and the only other notable FA is Benintendi. Regardless, I don’t see Hal spending on par with the Mets this off-season but hopefully they can close the deal with Rodon.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
Same old tired nonsense. “We have to outspend everyone!”
When has outspending everyone worked? Maybe 2009- but that’s it. The dynasty teams were built around a core 4 of home grown players and they filled in at the edges.
The Padres, Yanks and Mets outspent everyone else by a large margin and they got to the World Ser… oh wait…NONE of them even went to the World Series.
There is NO correlation between spending and World Series titles. In fact, the Astros were 10th in spending. Further, of the top 5 spending, only the Phillies- who were 4th even made the World Series- and they got swept.
Those owners can afford it, but they are more interested in maximizing profits than fielding a winning team. They have the found the proper balance of spending just enough and then sitting back and waiting for those fat luxury tax checks.
Every team makes a bunch of money, if they didn't, you would see more relocations and team sales, IMO.
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Mets luxury tax in 2023 is more than 10-12 teams payroll. Per Buster. That is crazy. I’m sorry.but, there needs to be a certain amount you have to spend. If you can’t afford it, sell the team.
Those owners can afford it, but they are more interested in maximizing profits than fielding a winning team. They have the found the proper balance of spending just enough and then sitting back and waiting for those fat luxury tax checks.
Every team makes a bunch of money, if they didn't, you would see more relocations and team sales, IMO.
I agree. There needs to be a minimum floor. If the owners say they can’t afford it they should sell the team.
The problem with this argument is that if you want a floor, the small market teams will demand a ceiling (hard cap) as well. The small market teams outnumber the large market teams, so they tend to win the internal arguments among owners.
MLB has proposed one before- and the players went on strike to stop it- guaranteed to happen again if it happens.
What Cohen is doing is screwing the other large market owners. He’s literally making the small market owners case for them. While fans don’t agree- the owners have NEVER cared about public opinion on their spending.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
I disagree that the Mets "have more prospects in the pipeline". The top of the two teams' systems are relatively close to one another but the Yankees have more org depth at the moment.
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prospects in the pipeline then us.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
Same old tired nonsense. “We have to outspend everyone!”
When has outspending everyone worked? Maybe 2009- but that’s it. The dynasty teams were built around a core 4 of home grown players and they filled in at the edges.
The Padres, Yanks and Mets outspent everyone else by a large margin and they got to the World Ser… oh wait…NONE of them even went to the World Series.
There is NO correlation between spending and World Series titles. In fact, the Astros were 10th in spending. Further, of the top 5 spending, only the Phillies- who were 4th even made the World Series- and they got swept.
While this is true, what the Yankees have been doing isn't leading to championships either.
I absolutely agree with you on this point.
If I were the mid-market or large market owners, I’d be furious that they are stealing money from me. However, they never set up an enforcement mechanism to force those owners to invest in the team. Sure the union can and has filed grievances- but those went nowhere fast.
If I were an owner of a big market team, I’m make SURE there were rules that account for every dollar and make sure what spending would be considered good ways to spend that money and prohibited uses.
Pipe dream I know, but the system is broken.
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prospects in the pipeline then us.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
Same old tired nonsense. “We have to outspend everyone!”
When has outspending everyone worked? Maybe 2009- but that’s it. The dynasty teams were built around a core 4 of home grown players and they filled in at the edges.
The Padres, Yanks and Mets outspent everyone else by a large margin and they got to the World Ser… oh wait…NONE of them even went to the World Series.
There is NO correlation between spending and World Series titles. In fact, the Astros were 10th in spending. Further, of the top 5 spending, only the Phillies- who were 4th even made the World Series- and they got swept.
While this is true, what the Yankees have been doing isn't leading to championships either.
They haven’t won since 2009- but I don’t think spending totals are the answer. In fact, Donaldson and Hicks are wastes of money. With that said, I think they need to give some of the younger guys a chance.
IMO, the young guys who they shots to on the pitching side last year gave them a nice boost. Cabrera gave them a nice boost on the offensive side. A big piece of the dynasty teams was a core the developed themselves. Not even prospect will pan out- there will always be a Gerald Williams who doesn’t become a regular for every one like Bernie they find.
Still, if you don’t give them a short, you’re never going to find out. That loyalty showed last week with Judge- yes, he milked them for every dollar- but he wanted to end up back in NY.
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prospects in the pipeline then us.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
I disagree that the Mets "have more prospects in the pipeline". The top of the two teams' systems are relatively close to one another but the Yankees have more org depth at the moment.
yeah- I agree- that’s baloney.
Volpe, Dominguez, Peraza and Wells is a solid high end group as anyone else has. The depth is mostly at the lower levels.
The Yanks have demonstrated that they can develop pitchers- some names I suspect we’ll be talking about this time next year- Drew Thorpe, Trystan Vrierling, and Brendan Beck. Also, don’t sleep on Spencer Jones or Anthony Hall.
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prospects in the pipeline then us.
We are busy patting ourselves in the back with Cashman at the helm, let’s see how long that lasts when we no longer have a laughing stock across town.
I disagree that the Mets "have more prospects in the pipeline". The top of the two teams' systems are relatively close to one another but the Yankees have more org depth at the moment.
yeah- I agree- that’s baloney.
Volpe, Dominguez, Peraza and Wells is a solid high end group as anyone else has. The depth is mostly at the lower levels.
The Yanks have demonstrated that they can develop pitchers- some names I suspect we’ll be talking about this time next year- Drew Thorpe, Trystan Vrierling, and Brendan Beck. Also, don’t sleep on Spencer Jones or Anthony Hall.
I think the unique aspect is baseball is you can absolutely use payroll as a 'bridge strategy' until the next wave is ready. With football, you have to take your runs, suffer a few down years and then try and take another run.
While yanks do have some pipeline guys, let's say they said they aren't spending more after the Judge signing. I think most would agree that the team is probably as good as last year but not better and would need some things to break right to win a WS in '23. So you're looking at 24-25 to take another shot.
However, they could partially spend their way out of it by eating money on guys like Hicks and Donaldson and trying to beef up starting pitching.
That would probably make the team better than last year and doesn't jeopardize trading away the pipeline guys either.
So yeah money doesn't buy a championship, but baseball teams are uniquely positioned to use it as a tool to eat mistakes and use it to build without trading away assets.
And yet our process is great, our pipeline is great, our GM is great, so what gives? Someone cheats every year, we are besieged with injuries or bad luck always follows us every year?
We dwarf every other team in revenue, have a great “process” but not the result to show for it, and nobody in the industry would say we are better run than the Dodgers, Astros, Cardinals or Tampa.
I am just asking why not? Why can’t bent out of shape when someone questions Cashman? And you don’t have to tell who we have in the minors. Did Thorpe even pitch last year? How many 3rd round pitchers have flamed out before?
The Mets are serious about winning now, we can’t just be satisfied with playoff appearances going forward.