anyone know or read how much Odell is looking for in a contract? I only see signing if its more than 1 year seeing not sure if he plays this year. What is the price?
That was before the recovery news came out. He was definitely in line for a nice contract after last year with the Rams. Would have been the SuperBowl MVP in all honesty.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
just wondering if he is looking for crazy money or not.Big risk if its more than next season. This season and next might be ok but anything more is a really big risk. I would also think that it needs to be structured by games played.
I want the Giants to sign OBJ, as long as it's a reasonable contract.
Even if OBJ isn't quite the same player, I'm sure he'd be at very least a solid #2.
And one could argue that with Slayton scheduled to be a FA, Golladay (and perhaps Shepard) likely gone and Wandale probably not ready at the start of the season, the Giants don't have a #1, #2 or #3 WR.
Sign OBJ, draft a top WR at #1 and fill in with Hodgins/ James/Sils-caliber players until Wandale returns.
Don't picture him wanting the Buffalo scene I don't care how much Allen enticed him. As far as Giants. I see him here next year I just hope the contract is not over the top but more incentive laden .
Would love him for the playoff game if we have one
I want the Giants to sign OBJ, as long as it's a reasonable contract.
Even if OBJ isn't quite the same player, I'm sure he'd be at very least a solid #2.
And one could argue that with Slayton scheduled to be a FA, Golladay (and perhaps Shepard) likely gone and Wandale probably not ready at the start of the season, the Giants don't have a #1, #2 or #3 WR.
Sign OBJ, draft a top WR at #1 and fill in with Hodgins/ James/Sils-caliber players until Wandale returns.
I would like that too. Let him recover till training camp
Roll with DJ,saquon and him plus some drafts picks at wr
Sign a better IOL if needed. Pray ezuedu improves and gates is better at OC than OG
If he played 4 games for us at even a $10M AAV for two years, that's ~$12.3M outlay. 3 games would be ~$11.7M. I think $10M is a little too rich, and think he would sign for $8-$9M. At those prices you're talking a total commitment of anywhere between $9.4M and $11.1M. In any of the above scenarios, even if the return was a possession receiver that catches just about everything and runs good routes, but is missing the huge explosion he's been known for, it's worth it. There are very pedestrian receivers in this league making $11M AAV. The upside here makes that a risk worth taking. The money is not prohibitive. Given the lack of playmakers at the position on this team, you need competence. The cost in free agency dollars and draft capital it will take to re-establish the position group into a competent one will be expensive.
I know we're not talking about the same caliber player, but Domenik Hixon had two torn ACLs to the same knee in 2010 and 2011, back to back seasons, came back in 2012 and had darn near the best season of his career. At the time, he said, "everything felt normal."
I think not only will the reunion happen, it's almost a necessity. Need I also remind the WR free agent crop this coming off-season leaves a lot to be desired, although I expect Schoen to make at least one move there. But realistically this team needs three receivers. OBJ can significantly lessen that need, and I think it's important that the Giants get him in the building sooner rather than later. He's not going to really play significant snaps in all likelihood until week 16 at the soonest, and that's if he signed today. If he can physically perform, I think you'd want to see him out there with significant reps for at least a couple of games.
Are based on a presumptive 2-year deal. I don't think OBJ would want longer than that, he should want to re-establish his value to potentially hit free agency in 2024, when he can probably get a deal in the $17M-$18M AAV on a 3-year deal or so if he can put together a strong 2023 campaign.
They are going to have to draft at least one AND sign a vet to rebuild this unit. Beckham was always good in the WR room, well prepared, well liked behind the scenes. He would actually be a good mentor for a high draft pick. His issues are off the field. 10 million a year is reasonable. A guy like Tee Higgins would be almost twice that.
That was before the recovery news came out. He was definitely in line for a nice contract after last year with the Rams. Would have been the SuperBowl MVP in all honesty.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
You're going to give $30 million to a guy that won't workout for anyone? Why?
That was before the recovery news came out. He was definitely in line for a nice contract after last year with the Rams. Would have been the SuperBowl MVP in all honesty.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
You're going to give $30 million to a guy that won't workout for anyone? Why?
Thank you! I cant understand the obsession with this jerk.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
This^ Anything north of zero is a waste of cap space.
Well done Optinus.
Even if OBJ isn't quite the same player, I'm sure he'd be at very least a solid #2.
And one could argue that with Slayton scheduled to be a FA, Golladay (and perhaps Shepard) likely gone and Wandale probably not ready at the start of the season, the Giants don't have a #1, #2 or #3 WR.
Sign OBJ, draft a top WR at #1 and fill in with Hodgins/ James/Sils-caliber players until Wandale returns.
But I want OBJ if they are committed to Jones. If not doesnt make sense.
the use is the playoffs
Even if OBJ isn't quite the same player, I'm sure he'd be at very least a solid #2.
And one could argue that with Slayton scheduled to be a FA, Golladay (and perhaps Shepard) likely gone and Wandale probably not ready at the start of the season, the Giants don't have a #1, #2 or #3 WR.
Sign OBJ, draft a top WR at #1 and fill in with Hodgins/ James/Sils-caliber players until Wandale returns.
I would like that too. Let him recover till training camp
Roll with DJ,saquon and him plus some drafts picks at wr
Sign a better IOL if needed. Pray ezuedu improves and gates is better at OC than OG
You spent time replying. How ironic.
If he played 4 games for us at even a $10M AAV for two years, that's ~$12.3M outlay. 3 games would be ~$11.7M. I think $10M is a little too rich, and think he would sign for $8-$9M. At those prices you're talking a total commitment of anywhere between $9.4M and $11.1M. In any of the above scenarios, even if the return was a possession receiver that catches just about everything and runs good routes, but is missing the huge explosion he's been known for, it's worth it. There are very pedestrian receivers in this league making $11M AAV. The upside here makes that a risk worth taking. The money is not prohibitive. Given the lack of playmakers at the position on this team, you need competence. The cost in free agency dollars and draft capital it will take to re-establish the position group into a competent one will be expensive.
I know we're not talking about the same caliber player, but Domenik Hixon had two torn ACLs to the same knee in 2010 and 2011, back to back seasons, came back in 2012 and had darn near the best season of his career. At the time, he said, "everything felt normal."
I think not only will the reunion happen, it's almost a necessity. Need I also remind the WR free agent crop this coming off-season leaves a lot to be desired, although I expect Schoen to make at least one move there. But realistically this team needs three receivers. OBJ can significantly lessen that need, and I think it's important that the Giants get him in the building sooner rather than later. He's not going to really play significant snaps in all likelihood until week 16 at the soonest, and that's if he signed today. If he can physically perform, I think you'd want to see him out there with significant reps for at least a couple of games.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
You're going to give $30 million to a guy that won't workout for anyone? Why?
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That was before the recovery news came out. He was definitely in line for a nice contract after last year with the Rams. Would have been the SuperBowl MVP in all honesty.
Say a 3 year $30 million, probably not a lot of guarantees given his history. Not what the Giants need but could be a fairly cheap weapon for a competing team like the Cowboys or Eagles.
You're going to give $30 million to a guy that won't workout for anyone? Why?
Thank you! I cant understand the obsession with this jerk.
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Play in playoff games, what’s the use??
the use is the playoffs
When he doesn’t want to help you GET there?