hires. Until he's done otherwise, I think he'll hire a good replacement should Kafka leave. That said, I think Kafka's a good coach and continuity is valuable.
I think this is about the Giants making the playoff and turning around so fast with the roster we had. Teams want that turn around at lightening speed.
I wonder if he goes, maybe a surprise replacement for the giants—Webb.
With respect to Kafka, let’s hope he sticks around for a few years on the Giants.
He has had a very positive impact on DJ.
Wink is probably a more serious HC candidate at this time.
RE: See - I actually think we have such a good foundation with
Daboll that this is the first time I am not worried about losing coordinators
My thoughts on Dabol being sucsessful right away has a lot to do with the decision he made to bring in Kafka and let him be the OC and call plays. Dabol being an offensive guy and letting someone else runit so he can be the needed CEO of the team is the right model for him.
Also I dont think Kafka hasnt even hit his stride yet. His loss will be a big one, but its gonna happen if we maintain sucsess.
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
Carolina will likely cast a wide net. Being a first year OC, I would be very surprised if Kafka is their final choice
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
And Wink Martindale can’t get an interview. It’s ridiculous.
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
people always say this but how can one learning you have a potentially life-changing interview ahead of you in a week not be distracting in some small way to the person getting the interview
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how can it not be also somewhat distracting for team learning that the OC that just helped their offense and team back to relevance not be disappointed at the potential of losing him after one year.
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
Plus many teams/GM use “interviews” to get insight into what made that specific team/system successful. If I was an owner, I’d be interviewing as many successful coaches as possible… even if I can only choose one, I can listen to many theories/strategies. Hopefully Kafka stays, I see Tepper going for a big name….
This time, he is going to do a ton of due diligence with interviews and I doubt the next coach gets a 7 year $63M contract. But, Steve Wilks went 6-6 with a team that he inherited from Rhule, with coaches he didn't choose. Alot of players want Wilks to be hired. As for Kafka, I'm sure he might get some feelers, I would like him to be retained though.
But he's worked with Reid and Mahomes, then came to the Giants in a year under Daboll in which Daniel Jones made a ton of improvement. In other words he's been groomed by 2 high end offensive minds and has had success in each stop.
I can see why there's interest and expected this to happen.
On the flipside, if we were in the hiring cycle right now I don't think I'd feel comfortable with us hiring a guy with 1 year coordinator experience, but I don't make decisions...
a solid article about potential GMs from Albert Breer at SI.
He lists the 25 most likely candidates to get a job this offseason.
The article is noteworthy in that his list does not include the Giants Brandon Brown in his 25, though he does mention him and speaks quite highly-but feels its simply too early in his career.
To summarize the article, he feels that prior experience will be the major attraction this offseason, rather than a young executive with great potential.
And as Giants fans, lets not forget that in our search last year, there were 2 finalists- Joe Schoen and Adam Peters with the 49ers. Peters continues to do an amazing job in San Francisco and I feel is probably the hottest name to become another teams GM this offseason.
With Brandon Brown, Giants fans should remember that if he stays with the Giants for 2 years, and then takes a GM promotion to another team, the Giants get two 3rd round comp picks. You hate to lose great administrators, but there would be compensation if he leaves any time after next season. Link - ( New Window )
pick their brains and I feel that is what Tepper is doing with Kafka. I want Kafka to stay because I think he will be much better next season and I want him with Jones to solidify Jones at QB. Jones is getting it and another season with Kafka will reinforce his gained knowledge this year.
I do think it is too soon for Kafka at HC. He is still an OC work in progress.
Jim Harbaugh - my Michigan insider is certain that Harbaugh stays at UM. Looking at options, but not truly serious. FWIW.
Say on the radio that it’s a young mans game and more teams are looking to hire a HC in their 30-40’s. He said it’s unfortunate that this could be the reason Wink doesn’t get a HC gig but that is the way the trend currently is. Now that is just Tiki’s opinion.
With respect to Kafka, let’s hope he sticks around for a few years on the Giants.
He has had a very positive impact on DJ.
Wink is probably a more serious HC candidate at this time.
Dallas - when McCarthy gets bounced from the playoffs
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
Jones will be signed before FA begins.
Bill, I hope you’re right. But Tepper is one of those assholes who always thinks he’s entitled to what he wants and doesn’t care what it costs, as he did with Matt Rhule. I can see a scenario where he reaches out quietly to Jones’ agent now and tells him he’ll get Kafka and play the same system. If DJ doesn’t sign within 2 weeks, watch out.
RE: Surprised they are not considering Steve Wilks
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
Jones will be signed before FA begins.
Bill, I hope you’re right. But Tepper is one of those assholes who always thinks he’s entitled to what he wants and doesn’t care what it costs, as he did with Matt Rhule. I can see a scenario where he reaches out quietly to Jones’ agent now and tells him he’ll get Kafka and play the same system. If DJ doesn’t sign within 2 weeks, watch out.
He'd probably outright tamper if he could. Plus he knows Jones is from Charlotte.
Not that it would've worked, of course, but Tepper made that insane offer to Rhule after it became known the Giants had interest in him.
The Giants could just use the non exclusive tag for Jones then and
Have good coordinators other teams want to hire then be stuck with coordinators who are terrible like Jason Garrett. Winning is a double edge sword, but it’s better than the alternative.
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
people always say this but how can one learning you have a potentially life-changing interview ahead of you in a week not be distracting in some small way to the person getting the interview
AND
how can it not be also somewhat distracting for team learning that the OC that just helped their offense and team back to relevance not be disappointed at the potential of losing him after one year.
Because they're pros and realize that this is the nature of the business.
Wink and Brandon Brown leaving the team this off-season. Would suck to lose anyone when they’re just starting to build something potentially great but Daboll is an offense guy and I have faith he could find a suitable replacement for Kafka if necessary.
is probably too inexperienced to get the job at this point, but David Tepper is an odd fellow, which concerns me. He seems to get pleasure in going against the grain and he is not afraid to make bold choices or act decisively to get what he wants (like paying Matt Rhule what was that contract?).
RE: RE: See - I actually think we have such a good foundation with
You should be.
Kafka is very stoic up there, it was fun to watch. These guys care about each other.
I wonder if he goes, maybe a surprise replacement for the giants—Webb.
Arizona
Denver
Houston
Am I missing any team?
With respect to Kafka, let’s hope he sticks around for a few years on the Giants.
He has had a very positive impact on DJ.
Wink is probably a more serious HC candidate at this time.
My thoughts on Dabol being sucsessful right away has a lot to do with the decision he made to bring in Kafka and let him be the OC and call plays. Dabol being an offensive guy and letting someone else runit so he can be the needed CEO of the team is the right model for him.
Also I dont think Kafka hasnt even hit his stride yet. His loss will be a big one, but its gonna happen if we maintain sucsess.
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
panthers - ( New Window )
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
Mike Kafka is 35 years old with one year as an Offensive Coordinator. Yes, he was part of the amazing KC offense for a few years... but now, after one season with the Giants, Carolina is considering him as a Head Coach? Seems a little premature to me.
And Wink Martindale can’t get an interview. It’s ridiculous.
This comment isn’t getting the love it should.
Frank Reich
Jim Harbaugh
I expect all three to be head coaches in the NFL by Feb. 1.
Jim Caldwell and Dan Quinn will be big names to watch too.
I just don't see how Mike Kafka competes with those dudes.
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
Harbaugh
Sean Payton
Dan Quinn
Frank Reich
Ben Johnson
Shane Steichen
Jonathan Gannon
Demeco Ryans
I’d be surprised if Kafka gets plucked after 1 year with a giants offense that hasn’t exactly set the world on fire
@DDuggan21
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
people always say this but how can one learning you have a potentially life-changing interview ahead of you in a week not be distracting in some small way to the person getting the interview
AND
how can it not be also somewhat distracting for team learning that the OC that just helped their offense and team back to relevance not be disappointed at the potential of losing him after one year.
@DDuggan21
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
Plus many teams/GM use “interviews” to get insight into what made that specific team/system successful. If I was an owner, I’d be interviewing as many successful coaches as possible… even if I can only choose one, I can listen to many theories/strategies. Hopefully Kafka stays, I see Tepper going for a big name….
I can see why there's interest and expected this to happen.
On the flipside, if we were in the hiring cycle right now I don't think I'd feel comfortable with us hiring a guy with 1 year coordinator experience, but I don't make decisions...
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
Jones will be signed before FA begins.
He lists the 25 most likely candidates to get a job this offseason.
The article is noteworthy in that his list does not include the Giants Brandon Brown in his 25, though he does mention him and speaks quite highly-but feels its simply too early in his career.
To summarize the article, he feels that prior experience will be the major attraction this offseason, rather than a young executive with great potential.
And as Giants fans, lets not forget that in our search last year, there were 2 finalists- Joe Schoen and Adam Peters with the 49ers. Peters continues to do an amazing job in San Francisco and I feel is probably the hottest name to become another teams GM this offseason.
With Brandon Brown, Giants fans should remember that if he stays with the Giants for 2 years, and then takes a GM promotion to another team, the Giants get two 3rd round comp picks. You hate to lose great administrators, but there would be compensation if he leaves any time after next season.
Link - ( New Window )
I do think it is too soon for Kafka at HC. He is still an OC work in progress.
Jim Harbaugh - my Michigan insider is certain that Harbaugh stays at UM. Looking at options, but not truly serious. FWIW.
Arizona
Denver
Houston
Am I missing any team?
With respect to Kafka, let’s hope he sticks around for a few years on the Giants.
He has had a very positive impact on DJ.
Wink is probably a more serious HC candidate at this time.
Dallas - when McCarthy gets bounced from the playoffs
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*Kafka gets hired by the Panthers as Head Coach
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
Jones will be signed before FA begins.
Bill, I hope you’re right. But Tepper is one of those assholes who always thinks he’s entitled to what he wants and doesn’t care what it costs, as he did with Matt Rhule. I can see a scenario where he reaches out quietly to Jones’ agent now and tells him he’ll get Kafka and play the same system. If DJ doesn’t sign within 2 weeks, watch out.
They are. But they are also interviewing other candidates. As they should
Arizona
Denver
Houston
Am I missing any team?
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*Kafka gets hired by the Panthers as Head Coach
*Tepper backs up the BRINKS truck for Daniel Jones and he returns to his home state to QB the Panthers.
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Of course, the Giants have the tag but it's best they get this contract done while they can. It's going to cost them.
Jones will be signed before FA begins.
Bill, I hope you’re right. But Tepper is one of those assholes who always thinks he’s entitled to what he wants and doesn’t care what it costs, as he did with Matt Rhule. I can see a scenario where he reaches out quietly to Jones’ agent now and tells him he’ll get Kafka and play the same system. If DJ doesn’t sign within 2 weeks, watch out.
He'd probably outright tamper if he could. Plus he knows Jones is from Charlotte.
Not that it would've worked, of course, but Tepper made that insane offer to Rhule after it became known the Giants had interest in him.
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The interview can’t take place until next week, so shouldn’t be a distraction for Kafka’s preparation for the Vikings.
people always say this but how can one learning you have a potentially life-changing interview ahead of you in a week not be distracting in some small way to the person getting the interview
AND
how can it not be also somewhat distracting for team learning that the OC that just helped their offense and team back to relevance not be disappointed at the potential of losing him after one year.
Because they're pros and realize that this is the nature of the business.
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Daboll that this is the first time I am not worried about losing coordinators
You should be.
I agree, this would be a loss of continuity for Jones and another OC to deal with in his short 4-5 years in the league.