This guy's had an excellent pulse of the team this year, he's in the building every day and he's clearly got sources. For example he reported in camp the Giants wanted Toney to play vs. NYJ and were concerned about his timing in a complicated offense. He also reported McK might play vs. the Colts before anyone got wind of it.
On yesterday's Giants Insider podcast, CB said a high ranking member of the Giants called him after the Eagles game and said "this feels like 2007", in that they just went toe to toe with the supposed #1 team and came within an onside kick of making it interesting. Bisignano then drove the point home that the players were bursting with confidence after the game.
Meanwhile, the Eagles seemed disturbed by the win. You could see Sirianni's frustration. They wanted to pull their starters but couldn't. They didn't want the QB taking hits and Wink was all over him. Hurts said after the game the Giants D changed their spots and caught them off guard (something Wink promised he'd do when he got here). There are rumors Hurts isn't going to be healthy until next season: when he ran he was sliding early. He's not expected to be in any better condition in the Playoffs. Without the RPO baked into his game he's not the same QB.
The feeling inside the building & lockerroom is the Giants are going to go on a run, and feel really confident vs. the Vikings & Eagles the next 2 weeks. I almost hate this kind of talk but it's out there, and it's nice to know where the team's head's at going into the tournament. I can't imagine MIN (or the Eagles) are feeling like this right now.
As Bisignano said a few times, after being in the lockerroom after the game, if you don't think the Giants believe they can go on a run "You're sadly mistaken."
But all the talk about how "this feels like 2007" is really a bit too much.
The game is on the field this Sunday at Minnesota.
I’m smelling overconfidence. Beware.
That's the thing though. You can't just buy that feeling. You're either peaking at the right time or you aren't.
To temper the comparisons all week leading up to the game and NOW - hey you know what?! 2007 vibes!!! .... Nah. Let's see how we do against a tough team in Minnesota and go from there.
Also I wish Jerry was more a part of the show. Chris can get a little annoying at times
I'm not sure what you're arguing. Who cares about the 3rd Quarter? It's a 60 minute game.
The Giants backups came within an onside kick of making that game really interesting. It never should've come to that, and it forced the Eagles to play their starters the whole game when they didn't want to.
That (along with the overall way the team's played and getting some injured players back) is making the Giants feel very confident.
Are you arguing they shouldn't be? Who really cares. That's how they feel. As an "underdog" heading into the playoffs this is how I want them feeling. Not just happy to be here, but on a mission.
Think win, um, win win.
2007 was a very talented, underperforming team in the regular season with a HOF pass rusher at the end of his career looking for redemption from a missed opportunity in ‘00, and a future HOF QB who came online during the run.
This is a severely over-performing team, but bereft of talent at WR and CB in a passing league. They may steal a game or 2, but Philly still steamrolled ‘em on their home turf, were swept by the Cowboys in decisive fashion, and the SF, Bills, KC’s of the world are just overpowered, with the latter 2 being terrible match up fits.
I hope I’m wrong, but honestly, I’m just gonna enjoy the first good season in a long time, a team trending in the right direction, and hope they kick the Vikings teeth in. Forget shades of ‘07, this weekend I want shades of ‘00 Giants v Vikings.
Giants were never really a threat to win this sunday. as i mentioned, be confident by all means, this seems like a complete stretch to compare situations and find parallels.
If i’d draw confidence heading into this playoff season, i’d point to the recent showing in minnesota as a reason for optimism.
Actually, 19-0 was a bit of a victory itself. Kept their starters on the field. They were hoping for 19-0 in the first quarter.
The D, if Jackson comes back can keep them in games imv. Can the O score enough points though?
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be compared to 1997. That 1997 team was also very conservative offensively even by 1997 standards. Guess who we lost to in an away playoff game.
You want to hear another weird similarity with 1997 and 2022 seasons. We had a tie in 1997 which is the last tie for the Giants until this year against Washington in week 13. In 1997, the tie was against Washington in week 13. 1997 first year coach Jim Fassel. 2023 first year coach is Daboll.
Now, the Giants are going on a run in the playoffs.
Minny is going to be a real tough game folks. Lets focus on that.
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be compared to 1997. That 1997 team was also very conservative offensively even by 1997 standards. Guess who we lost to in an away playoff game.
You want to hear another weird similarity with 1997 and 2022 seasons. We had a tie in 1997 which is the last tie for the Giants until this year against Washington in week 13. In 1997, the tie was against Washington in week 13. 1997 first year coach Jim Fassel. 2023 first year coach is Daboll.
I meant to say that this year our tie was also in week 13 against Washington.
Not to be a bummer but the last Giants headcoach to win coach of the year was Fassel in 1997. Seems that Daboll will be the COTY this year. I think this season has much more in common with 1997 than 2007.
Would we have been better off if the Giants played San Fran. We could have traveled to CA early in the week with the probability that Wink would make magic against that juggernaut QB Brock fucking Purdy.
2007 was a very talented, underperforming team in the regular season with a HOF pass rusher at the end of his career looking for redemption from a missed opportunity in ‘00, and a future HOF QB who came online during the run.
This is a severely over-performing team, but bereft of talent at WR and CB in a passing league. They may steal a game or 2, but Philly still steamrolled ‘em on their home turf, were swept by the Cowboys in decisive fashion, and the SF, Bills, KC’s of the world are just overpowered, with the latter 2 being terrible match up fits.
I hope I’m wrong, but honestly, I’m just gonna enjoy the first good season in a long time, a team trending in the right direction, and hope they kick the Vikings teeth in. Forget shades of ‘07, this weekend I want shades of ‘00 Giants v Vikings.
Very well started sir
I’m smelling overconfidence. Beware.
Do you actually think they won’t be focused on Minnesota and instead are spending time on next weekends opponent which isn’t known yet?
Yes, I feel they should beat the Vikings. Not so sure after that.
Exactly.
For me, it's not really about 2007, but it could be a little like 1985, when they got clobbered by the Bears but that drubbing served as a catalyst for a championship in '86. If memory serves, it was Phil Simms who touched upon that in "Giants Among Men."
The poor WR group has had real time on the field to better understand the offence and build chemistry with DJ.
Our pass rush is improving.
We are getting decent LB play of late.
Much like our WRs our CBs have been getting real experience due to injury.
Combine this with really no hot team in the NFC (Eagles, Cowboys, Minny not looking all that great last few weeks. SF barely gets by Las Vegas in Week 17) a run is certainly possible.
Over confidence by fans on BBI will bite the team in the ass!
Stop it people!
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That was a home game at Giants Stadium, not an away game.
That game was a home playoff game
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be compared to 1997. That 1997 team was also very conservative offensively even by 1997 standards. Guess who we lost to in an away playoff game.
That was a home game at Giants Stadium, not an away game.
Philly - They are a different team with Lane Johnson. Hurts had trouble with the pass rush last game and that was playing against 2nd and 3rd teamers. We have a puncher's chance which I think we would have all signed up for 3 months ago.
I think the pessimists need to stop making excuses about last game. Our backups played the Eagles tough. You can hang your hat on being down 19-0 in the 3rd. Go ahead - but you are then forgetting about not taking the opportunity to kick a field goal and giving them a short field after the onside kick to start the half.
Daboll rested his starters and the team had fun playing. I think we are peaking at the right time.
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be compared to 1997. That 1997 team was also very conservative offensively even by 1997 standards. Guess who we lost to in an away playoff game.
You want to hear another weird similarity with 1997 and 2022 seasons. We had a tie in 1997 which is the last tie for the Giants until this year against Washington in week 13. In 1997, the tie was against Washington in week 13. 1997 first year coach Jim Fassel. 2023 first year coach is Daboll.
I meant to say that this year our tie was also in week 13 against Washington.
And both teams had a QB named "Danny" and a QB from Duke
If they pull it off, the Eagles will most likely be waiting for a rematch at the Linc ...