#9 Alvarez
#16 Senga
#33 Baty
#50 Parada
#92 Ramirez
#98 Williams
Notable: Mauricio did not make the top 100. It's clear the scouting/prospect industry are far lower on Ronny Mauricio than many @mets fans are. I'm not saying one side is right, but that much is evident.
-Adam Duvall signed with Boston, 1 year 7 with incentives
Pete Crow-Armstrong at 25
Really liked the int'l signings as well
Pete Crow-Armstrong at 25
That hurts, particularly since nothing was gained much from either for more than half a season. Kelenic disappointing takes the sting off the Diaz trade and turns it into a win for the organization.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. They do have some interesting guys though. Allan (health willing obviously), Ziegler, Vasil, Diaz, Tidwell, and Hamel. None are top 100 prospects, but I could see 2-3 developing into mid to back end starters.
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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be fair, none of the pitchers in the system deserved top 100 consideration. The system remains very, very thin in SP prospects.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. They do have some interesting guys though. Allan (health willing obviously), Ziegler, Vasil, Diaz, Tidwell, and Hamel. None are top 100 prospects, but I could see 2-3 developing into mid to back end starters.
I have a bad feeling about Allan. I suspect we are going to hear he had another setback etc. Ernest Dove said he spoke to somebody who wouldn't commit to him being 100% ready for ST. He was originally supposed to pitch second half 2022 so *if* that's the case, something happened. The fact we have heard radio silence (even from the Resnick types) has me at the very least pessimistic.
I prefer this method in investing 1st round picks (at least high ones) in position players. Let the pitching be more of a numbers game in the draft. This year, I would have no issues with them going all (or primarily) pitching with the extra picks from losing deGrom and Bassitt, and not signing Sproat
Dan - do you get the feeling that the organizational philosophy is to draft position players and use free agency to sign proven pitchers - or are they just operating this way currently because of the current state of the farm system?
Dan, what are you thoughts on Fanas and Juan. Most rankings have Fanas a bit higher than Juan, but Juan was definitely the bigger name when he was signed.
I prefer this method in investing 1st round picks (at least high ones) in position players. Let the pitching be more of a numbers game in the draft. This year, I would have no issues with them going all (or primarily) pitching with the extra picks from losing deGrom and Bassitt, and not signing Sproat
Well picking pitchers particularly high and developing P or signing IFA P shouldn't go directly hand in hand. Even with their relatively high picks their P have left a lot to be desired.
Since 2016 they have used relatively high picks on Dunn/Kay/Peterson (DP looks good), Dibrell, SWR, Hill, Wolf, Allan, Ginn +Ziegler/Hamel (TBD), Tidwell (TBD), that's a pretty meek group (not including the TBD's). And that doesn't include "picked 8th round but has emerged as a potential MLB SP" types.
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be fair, none of the pitchers in the system deserved top 100 consideration. The system remains very, very thin in SP prospects.
Dan - do you get the feeling that the organizational philosophy is to draft position players and use free agency to sign proven pitchers - or are they just operating this way currently because of the current state of the farm system?
They are pretty open about the fact they have been "forced" to sign SP because they don't have internal options. If the goal is to mimic the Dodgers, they have a lot of work to do on the pitching side. The Dodgers routinely pick late and yet are LOADED with interesting arms.
Dan, what are you thoughts on Fanas and Juan. Most rankings have Fanas a bit higher than Juan, but Juan was definitely the bigger name when he was signed.
Watched them both pretty extensively this year. I'm far from a scout and even further when it comes to judging teenagers playing in DR but Fanas looked underdeveloped physically (he had *3* extra base hits) despite being an "older" DSL player (he's turning 19 next week, for comparisons sake Alex Ramirez just turned 20 and is *likely* going to see AA this season. Juan "looked the part" 6'2-6'3, showed plus speed, solid idea at the plate, won't be 18 until July. I was far more impressed with Juan (though neither one had strong seasons statistically). Hard to have expected a ton from Juan, but Fanas certainly disappointed.
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Dan-what are your thoughts on signing Britton? Is Pham on the radar?
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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Dan-what are your thoughts on signing Britton? Is Pham on the radar?
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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Mets do have an offer out to Pham. Uncertain how many others are involved. He likely wants to assess playing time as he’d be 4th OF with Mets with some possible DH time
Considering none of Canha/Nimmo/Marte have proven they can stay healthy all year there would be a lot of playing time with the Mets as long as the Mets want to keep McNeil at 2B. The bigger issue is what to do with Baty/Vientos.
Not particularly. He had a solid/nice season but he's still about projection and whether he can remain in CF. He posted a 121 wRC+ (very good but not outstanding), 8% walk rate (solid for his age but not outstanding) very solid 22% K rate but again... not "unusually good". I'm sure if you had a chance to speak to the people who put the list together they would say they remain high on him, that he had a solid/solid-strong season but didn't "break out" statistically. Ramirez has as good a shot as any of the Mets prospects as being #1 in the system at this point next year.
DRS last 2 seasons -4, OAA -12. 0 DRS in 2022, -6 OAA.
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Follow up question regarding Ramirez, he cracked most top 100 lists late last year, are you disappointed to still see him listed in the 90's?
Not particularly. He had a solid/nice season but he's still about projection and whether he can remain in CF. He posted a 121 wRC+ (very good but not outstanding), 8% walk rate (solid for his age but not outstanding) very solid 22% K rate but again... not "unusually good". I'm sure if you had a chance to speak to the people who put the list together they would say they remain high on him, that he had a solid/solid-strong season but didn't "break out" statistically. Ramirez has as good a shot as any of the Mets prospects as being #1 in the system at this point next year.
Man, it would be nice to have a big time OF prospect in the system. Like you said above, if he can be at AA by age 20, that's just tremendous.
-1.7 fWAR over the past 2 seasons with a 45 OPS+, no that's not a typo. Absolutely not.
-Not an ideal fit for the Mets as a 4th OFer (Eppler connection aside) but it appears Adell will open at AAA for the Angels
With regard to Mauricio, I get it due to the plate discipline, but I just don’t understand how you can have the winter league performance he just had and not have the guy in the top 100. These guys all get certain buzz performance standards and completely wiff on certain types of players (see Alonso).
With regard to Mauricio, I get it due to the plate discipline, but I just don’t understand how you can have the winter league performance he just had and not have the guy in the top 100. These guys all get certain buzz performance standards and completely wiff on certain types of players (see Alonso).
Rodriguez has developed into one of the top C prospects in baseball. That was truly an awful deal as Rodriguez hit at a high level immediately after signing.
if my memory is right nimmo was like that - his draft pedigree had him on lists his first few years but he slowly fell off them even as he advanced levels because his numbers didnt give him enough helium to move up (so instead he moved down as others move up).
the under ranking of alonso right before he hit 50 homers as a rookie has forever tainted me from taking these lists as seriously. it was clear in his full AAA season and fall league performance he was perhaps the best hitter in MILB other than vlad jr. and they were ranked like 50 players apart.
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Actually, the Mets have agreed to terms with Pham, pending physical, per source.
i like this signing. adding a little extra intensity into the clubhouse could be a good thing and i assume if he's a problem buck will be on top of it or he'll be gone in a nanosecond.
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Yes, Tommy Pham slapped a man because of fantasy football, but the background work Mets did on him turned up intel that he's a very well-liked teammate and good clubhouse presence. The man he slapped was on a different ballclub, after all
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Worth noting, Nimmo's OPS before he cracked the list was .820, he had 40 extra base hits, 10 homers, 14 steals and a fantastic *394* OBP including 86 walks/105 k's. The following season his OPS was .734, he had 25 extra base hits, 5 steals. An OF with a then questionable glove being dropped seemed pretty accurate at the time.
Pham
Escobar
Nido
Guillorme
not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Pham
Escobar
Nido
Guillorme
not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Eppler yesterday indicated Escobar is likely the starting 3b, Baty to AAA
it's hard for me to remember exactly when he cycled on and off lists, but his a21 2014 was solid split between A+ and AA (550 pas, 130 wrc), his a22 2015 was good enough to get promoted from AA (110 rc) to AAA where he did even better with a 121 rc. then his a23 2016 he went crazy with a 159 rc in 444 plate appearances before getting promoted. so that was 3 years of decent trajectory with 400+ plate appearances each year and i dont remember him getting much hype pre debut as a prospect on the rise.
in honor of pham ill use a fantasy football phrase - some prospects turn into post-hype sleepers. i think mauricio and vientos (and to some degree even someone like kelenic) fall into that category.
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not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Eppler yesterday indicated Escobar is likely the starting 3b, Baty to AAA
Got ya. Missed that. If Vients, Baty, and Alvarez all start at AAA, looks like Mendick is the favorite right now to get Escobar's spot on the bench.
alvarez should get 200-300+ innings catching in the minors.
baty and vientos would be well served getting on track offensively and playing the field too vs. getting thrown in as DH to start the year and not getting much field time over the vets. vientos also a notorious slow starter.
if 1 of them lights up ST you dont send them down but you also dont want to give out scholarships and partial playing time that slows down their development.
alvarez should get 200-300+ innings catching in the minors.
baty and vientos would be well served getting on track offensively and playing the field too vs. getting thrown in as DH to start the year and not getting much field time over the vets. vientos also a notorious slow starter.
if 1 of them lights up ST you dont send them down but you also dont want to give out scholarships and partial playing time that slows down their development.
Agreed. I have no issue keeping the young guys down. There will be injuries and opportunities for them. With Mendick injured, I'd go out and sign another veteran bench player (Josh Harrison type). The more depth, the better.
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It’s very possible (and likely probable unless something changes) that both Baty and Alvarez start year in AAA. Mets want Alvarez to improve his defense before he’s a full-time MLB player, and also feel Baty could make strides on both sides of the ball before he’s moved to MLB.
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Stabbed outside a strip club
Brags about being a high stakes gambler
Have to wonder if they lost out on Conforto because of the Correa saga. Michael seems like such a better fit.
That said, it seems like Dan hit the nail on the head with the exit velocity. It seems that is why they signed Pham.
It seems to me that in conventional baseball terms, Pham has huge red flags both on and off the field. It will be an interesting test of Mets analytic department.
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It’s very possible (and likely probable unless something changes) that both Baty and Alvarez start year in AAA. Mets want Alvarez to improve his defense before he’s a full-time MLB player, and also feel Baty could make strides on both sides of the ball before he’s moved to MLB.
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It’s very possible (and likely probable unless something changes) that both Baty and Alvarez start year in AAA. Mets want Alvarez to improve his defense before he’s a full-time MLB player, and also feel Baty could make strides on both sides of the ball before he’s moved to MLB.
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Mendick is sore...
He's no longer viewed as a sure thing SS (some now saying he's likely *not* a big league SS) and his chase rate/swing decisions haven't improved. BA removed him from their mid-season 2022 list as did BP so this isn't a total shock.
Slapped Joc
Stabbed outside a strip club
Brags about being a high stakes gambler
Have to wonder if they lost out on Conforto because of the Correa saga. Michael seems like such a better fit.
That said, it seems like Dan hit the nail on the head with the exit velocity. It seems that is why they signed Pham.
It seems to me that in conventional baseball terms, Pham has huge red flags both on and off the field. It will be an interesting test of Mets analytic department.
The after-effects of the Correa saga. Conforto would have been a much better fit. Shame.
If he doesn't see time at other positions this season one can only assume they view him as trade fodder. He *should* see time in RF and 3b.
will use Canha/Pham in CF when Nimmo isn't out there vs. Marte who has indicated he doesn't feel comfortable switching back and forth from RF. Might that change? Who knows?
will use Canha/Pham in CF when Nimmo isn't out there vs. Marte who has indicated he doesn't feel comfortable switching back and forth from RF. Might that change? Who knows?
its not seamless but i think he'll be an upgrade in the naquin role. steamer has pham right at league average with 14 homers in 500 at bats. as a met, naquin hit .200 (80 rc) with hit 4 homers in 130. he also k'd 30% and walked just 4% so pham profiles as an upgrade pretty much across the board offensively.
it's not a big move but it's an upgrade on the margins. id still prefer pollock bc he fits the role better but pham had a very comparable season last year.
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Andrew Chafin market heating up now. Mets are among teams in on one of the top lefty relievers. They’ve also talked to Zack Britton (Buck O’s connection).
They are making more of an effort on the bench and bullpen
Catcher should be better with narvaez
With the prospects that much closer to breaking through it’s more defensible this year too. If things aren’t going well a month in they are going to have more internal options than a year ago, and hopefully won’t need to purge prospects that the deadline for mediocre relievers or 4th ofers.
yes I was really hopeful for this kid. thought he projected to #2 SP
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Catcher Tomás Nido and the New York Mets are in agreement on a two-year, $3.7 million contract, according to sources familiar with the deal. The deal, which covers Nido’s remaining arbitration years, pays $1.6 million in 2023 and $2.1 million in 2024.
basically how i see it. correa would have made them offseason champs and we'd all be rightfully riding high but winning the offseason or being the highest ws odds doesnt always mean rings.
its hard to envision dh going worse than it did last year so hopefully 1 of the kids steps up. saw today they dont want to consider alvarez for full time dh initially and i think thats the right call. i honestly dont even hate giving ruf another shot. if he's not cooked he can a helpful piece off the bench. just cut bait quick if he looks cooked.
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Will they wait until the trade deadline, and evaluate until then?
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Did they make a mistake by not taking a chance on Correa?
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I still think by yr end one or more of the 4 rookies ( Alvarez, Baty, vientos or even Mauricio) may be contributing more than we are thinking now in January
if 1 of alvarez/baty/vientos have any kind of rookie years like mcneil/alonso/conforto the situation is a lot better than it seems. and it may already be better than it seems just with a full year of vogey/narvaez/pham/ruf.
none of them are going to be correa, which is why opportunistically adding a player like correa made sense. conforto's bat was worth a gamble too. other than them there there weren't many bats available this offseason that you could say that about (most played ss and would have had to agree to move like correa).
3B should be similar, with likely slight improvement. Escobar struggled early,but got hot at the end of the year. Baty is always waiting in the wings there.
C should be an improvement. Narvaez should be better than McCann. Alvarez waiting in the wings there.
DH should be an improvement. Dom/Davis were not very good last year. Ruf was a complete nothing for the Mets. Vogelbach will be similar to what he was (which is an updgrade on Dom for them last year), and Pham should be a large upgrade on Davis and especially Ruf. Vientos also waiting in the wings.
Depth is also a lot better. Pham is the 4th OF, which is a significant upgrade on the likes of Janikowski, Plummer, and Naquin.
When injuries happen, Mets are much better positioned to fill in. Nido or Narvaez injured? Mets can bring up Alvarez over Mazeika. OF injured? Pham to start in OF, bring up Vientos to fill in at RH DH. Better than Janikowski or Plummer.
Mets had 207 PAs from Davis, 191 from McCann, 152 from Dom, 130 from Naquin, 74 from Ruf, 72 from Mazeika, 63 from Janikowski, 43 from Cano, etc.
That is roughly 15% of the teams PAs. Those ABs will be filled by the likes of Vogelbach, Pham, Baty, Vientos, Narvaez, and Alvarez.
3B should be similar, with likely slight improvement. Escobar struggled early,but got hot at the end of the year. Baty is always waiting in the wings there.
C should be an improvement. Narvaez should be better than McCann. Alvarez waiting in the wings there.
DH should be an improvement. Dom/Davis were not very good last year. Ruf was a complete nothing for the Mets. Vogelbach will be similar to what he was (which is an updgrade on Dom for them last year), and Pham should be a large upgrade on Davis and especially Ruf. Vientos also waiting in the wings.
Depth is also a lot better. Pham is the 4th OF, which is a significant upgrade on the likes of Janikowski, Plummer, and Naquin.
When injuries happen, Mets are much better positioned to fill in. Nido or Narvaez injured? Mets can bring up Alvarez over Mazeika. OF injured? Pham to start in OF, bring up Vientos to fill in at RH DH. Better than Janikowski or Plummer.
Mets had 207 PAs from Davis, 191 from McCann, 152 from Dom, 130 from Naquin, 74 from Ruf, 72 from Mazeika, 63 from Janikowski, 43 from Cano, etc.
That is roughly 15% of the teams PAs. Those ABs will be filled by the likes of Vogelbach, Pham, Baty, Vientos, Narvaez, and Alvarez.
Escobar has always been a streaky hitter. When I have had him in fantasy it seems like he will go entire months with 0-2 HR or hit 10-12 with little in between.
Yeah, I agree there. Mets were 15th in MLB in HRs last year. Narvaez/Alvarez should upgrade HR from the C position. DH should see a huge increase in HR. Combined last year for the Mets, Davis, Smith, and Ruf had a combined 4 HR in 433 PA. Add in Vogelbach who had 6 HR in 183 PA. Essentially 10 HR at DH. Vogelbach/Pham could easily double that total.
Nido/McCann totaled 6 HRs. Not crazy to think Narvaez/Nido could add 5 to that. Alvarez could add more.
So just in the upgrade in those two positions, you have 15 more HRs. Based on last year's numbers that would have the Mets pushing the top 10 in HRs.
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What is the flaw in Ronny Mauricio’s game that is keeping him off of top 100 lists? He’s toolsy, seemed to finish strong and then won the LIDOM MVP. Seems to me he’s overlooked. Are the concerns bag-related or concerns that he will grow out of SS and lose value?
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I'm not sure his pitch recognition is any better now than it was in 2019 in an absolute sense let alone relatively. It's reductive but how do you project a guy who has never even put up a .310 OBP in the minors and keeps sliding backwards to even stay afloat against MLB pitching?
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I mean, we still have him as the No. 7 prospect in the system. I have pointed this out before but he doesn't have particularly standout power or contact indicators either, only good relative to age/league context. What does he do better than, say, Junior Caminero or Connor Norby?
It's pretty well well established @mets
don't have a ton (any?) high level SPing. Anybody beneath the Tidwell/Vasil/Hamel's of the world that you like/scouts like? Any "sleeper" potential SP not talked about much? Or it is what is is? #Mets
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we got fairly consistent positive feedback throughout the season/list process on Ovalles
this is legitimate - but fortunately they have power on the way from the AAA.
also not to seem like a rationalizer, but correa and escobar have same number of homers past 2 years combined. and thats despite escobar doing so little i called him mehscobar for half the year. correa was a huge upgrade everywhere else, but the point is that there wasnt really any 30+ homer player available that fit in UFA this year, correa included. if they are going to get a power surge in the lineup it's likeliest to come from Alvarez (met catchers combined for 8 last year) or Vientos (met DH's combined for 15 last year).
vogelbach in a platoon role should beat all met DHs combined. narvaez could outdo all met catchers combined last year. so if they get a 20 homer year out of 1 of vientos + alvarez + baty that's pretty much all surplus run production from the bottom of the order.
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What is the flaw in Ronny Mauricio’s game that is keeping him off of top 100 lists? He’s toolsy, seemed to finish strong and then won the LIDOM MVP. Seems to me he’s overlooked. Are the concerns bag-related or concerns that he will grow out of SS and lose value?
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I'm not sure his pitch recognition is any better now than it was in 2019 in an absolute sense let alone relatively. It's reductive but how do you project a guy who has never even put up a .310 OBP in the minors and keeps sliding backwards to even stay afloat against MLB pitching?
here's what i don't understand about this answer at this specific moment in time.
in 200 at bats in winter league right with the championship going on right now, mauricio's obp is .335. his BA is .287 and his ops 803 isn't that much higher than his ops in AA last year (767). his slugging%s are almost identical (.472 in AA vs. .468 in winter league). if there were a babip i'd cite it and maybe it's high and the improvement is just an unsustainable fluke bc walk/k rates seem similar.
but against what is supposedly the highest level of comp he's faced he has seemingly taken the simplest meaningful step you would hope to see (more consistent contact) with minimal loss of power. and he's still 21.
this isnt an argument against you dmm or even seidler, but i think prospect writers in general like everyone get a little high on their own supply without recognizing that these guys can improve 1 thing and it makes a huge difference, and unexpected improvements do happen. gimenez was an unexciting ruben tejada 2 until he wasnt.
90% of prospect info i follow is met driven so this is an anecdotal observation from the last 5-7 years of mets who had fallen off top 100 lists as they advanced:
there was nobody i recall who moved higher on their opinions
of gimenez as he moved up
or peterson
or nimmo
they moved higher on alonso but obviously nowhere near high enough (i know, rh 1b).
the theory is simply once guys fall off top 100 lists for whatever reasons they tend to not move up again.
and next up testing that theory are mauicio and vientos who won't make it for xyz reasons even though they've been among the most productive power hitters in AA/AAA and now Winter League at young ages since minor leagues resumed post-covid.
and i think he has the highest ops in the whole winter league?
obp is an important stat but it isn't everything. dont remember who recently comp'd him to soriano (law?) but he was a pretty damn good player whose career obp was like 315. javy baez has problems but he's a 150m player with a career obp at 300.
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is also a bit of ignoring context here as well. On his own team this winter, amongst players who played at least 15 games his OBP was 7th.
and i think he has the highest ops in the whole winter league?
obp is an important stat but it isn't everything. dont remember who recently comp'd him to soriano (law?) but he was a pretty damn good player whose career obp was like 315. javy baez has problems but he's a 150m player with a career obp at 300.
Javier Baez had a .346 career OBP in the minors, .886 OPS. Mauricio's career BEST OBP is .307. Career .300., with an OPS 150 points lower. One of these things is not like the other.
Baez 1524 ab's .287/.346/.541 (called up at 21)
Mauricio 1745 ab's .261/.300/.424 (22 in April)
Baez also stole 81 bases over 397 games and was a no doubt about it MLB SS (GG in 2020) Mauricop 39 career steals, 34 times caught.
It's not particularly close in any way
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A lot of the folks who were still in on him around the draft weren’t in on him after the AFL
But Pham’s ability to draw walks and make hard contact — even if too much of it is on the ground — makes him a valuable offensive player even if he can’t convert more of that hard contact into line drives and fly balls.
Is $6 million a lot to pay for a fourth outfielder and platoon bat? Not to the Mets. Besides, that’s like half of what you’d expect to pay a decent free agent starting outfielder, maybe a little more. Pham might not bat 550 or 600 times in 2023, but let’s say he gets to the plate 200 times in a DH platoon, maybe one start a week in the outfield, plus pinch-hitting appearances, and we’re well over 300 plate appearances even if Marte, Canha, or Nimmo doesn’t land on the IL at all this year. There’s enough playing time out there to make it worthwhile for the Mets to sign a player like Pham. He should be quite a valuable secondary piece for them this year, and very exciting to follow.
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Jesus Baez for the Mets kept popping up as a name all summer. I will say that while in some ways complex info is becoming easier to find b/c of Trackman/video sharing, sources have gotten more reluctant to share names even on other teams because it's a more active trade market
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this is a surprisingly tricky one because if he's not a catcher and the bat-to-ball stagnates there are outcomes where he doesn't stick in the majors a la Blake Swihart or Jesús Montero
(If Showalter can avoid overextending Pham and Pham is willing to accept his role, this could be a great fit)
“nothing really, I didn't write the Mets list and he wasn't exactly in 101 consideration so he hasn't been at the top of mind for me. I hope he throws a bunch of healthy innings“
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The guy seems like a loose cannon with declining skills
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Have to wonder if they lost out on Conforto because of the Correa saga. Michael seems like such a better fit.
That said, it seems like Dan hit the nail on the head with the exit velocity. It seems that is why they signed Pham.
It seems to me that in conventional baseball terms, Pham has huge red flags both on and off the field. It will be an interesting test of Mets analytic department.
The after-effects of the Correa saga. Conforto would have been a much better fit. Shame.
How do you come up with that? Pham hits lefties well, has a power stroke only 34 and isn't coming off a missed season due to a shoulder injury.
I like MC too, but explain yourself
"The four players ranked above Alonso were:
Paul Goldschmidt
Freddie Freeman
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
José Abreu
The Polar Bear is coming off a stellar 2022 season that saw him smash 40 home runs, knock in 131 runs, and accumulate 4.0 fWAR (fourth among first baseman) over 161 games. He ranked first among all first basemen in home runs and RBI, he ranked second in slugging, eighth in on-base percentage, and third in runs."
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José Abreu
The Polar Bear is coming off a stellar 2022 season that saw him smash 40 home runs, knock in 131 runs, and accumulate 4.0 fWAR (fourth among first baseman) over 161 games. He ranked first among all first basemen in home runs and RBI, he ranked second in slugging, eighth in on-base percentage, and third in runs." Pete Alonso Ranked No. 5 on MLB Network’s Top First Basemen - ( New Window )
"Other Mets ranked on lists include: Brandon Nimmo (No. 4 center fielder), Starling Marte (No. 7 right fielder) and Edwin Díaz (No. 1 reliever)."
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he just doesnt hit for enough power to justify the fact that his 1 biggest positive (walks) is also nearly useless unless you pinch run for him. to get him home from 1b after a walk takes 3 singles or 1 single + 1 xbh, and he's unlikely to advance on productive outs. the career year last year was 48 xbh along with a career best .238 ba and near career best slg% (.433) - which were all right around what eduardo escobar did in what was considered a bad year and filling a harder position.
if you could create the perfect player for this roster it's a .250/.350/450, 20-30+ homer, 50+ xbh player who can drive in 90+ runs. which is basically conforto if he's healthy (and correa is better than that). eduardo escobar is probably a better bet to put up that kind of year than vogelbach bc he's actually done it a few times.
baty may have 2 paths (3b/lf) to playing time vs vientos only 1 at dh, but i see each having clear paths if they earn it and vogelbach may be the easiest current starter to displace - so long as the mets dont waste at bats on guys who arent part of the future if the opportunity is there again.
back to the broader point about where team wide power could come from - exit velocity isn't everything but if you remove qualifying i count 5 of these top 12 avg ev from last year weren't on the roster first half but are probably going to have a chance to win ABs in ST (6 if you count pham too). JDD would be #2 on this list but he's listed on sfg.
- Goes without saying but kinda sucks Khalil Lee hasn't developed/looks like a non-prospect. He would have been a perfect extra OFer based on his purported skillset. CO, some CF ability, some speed, some pop. Just hasn't worked out.
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The guy seems like a loose cannon with declining skills
Slapped Joc
Stabbed outside a strip club
Brags about being a high stakes gambler
Have to wonder if they lost out on Conforto because of the Correa saga. Michael seems like such a better fit.
That said, it seems like Dan hit the nail on the head with the exit velocity. It seems that is why they signed Pham.
It seems to me that in conventional baseball terms, Pham has huge red flags both on and off the field. It will be an interesting test of Mets analytic department.
The after-effects of the Correa saga. Conforto would have been a much better fit. Shame.
How do you come up with that? Pham hits lefties well, has a power stroke only 34 and isn't coming off a missed season due to a shoulder injury.
I like MC too, but explain yourself
Pham isn't anything special and is a bad guy. I'm not a fan.
P.S. I hope he didn't hear about me making fun of his fantasy foosball picks...
Per Heyman, the Marlins inquired about a possible Baty trade both before and after the Mets and Carlos Correa deal fell through. The Marlins were reportedly prepared to offer either RHP Edward Cabrera or LHP Jesus Luzardo for the infield prospect.”
If Mets got Correa, I’d seriously consider Cabrera, and would probably do it. The Mets need a cost controlled young potential ace. Baty would be blocked at 3B.
Without Correa, Mets are better off trading other players for pitching. I’d see if the Marlins would do something like Vientos (local kid) and Mauricio for Cabrera.
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Guardians 2023 prospect list ranks ex-
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Isiah Greene 41st (35+ FV) and Josh Wolf (unranked).
Still some optimism from them for Greene, Wolf far less so, he's no longer a prospect
Per Heyman, the Marlins inquired about a possible Baty trade both before and after the Mets and Carlos Correa deal fell through. The Marlins were reportedly prepared to offer either RHP Edward Cabrera or LHP Jesus Luzardo for the infield prospect.”
If Mets got Correa, I’d seriously consider Cabrera, and would probably do it. The Mets need a cost controlled young potential ace. Baty would be blocked at 3B.
Without Correa, Mets are better off trading other players for pitching. I’d see if the Marlins would do something like Vientos (local kid) and Mauricio for Cabrera. Link - ( New Window )
I'd be more tempted to take Luzardo. Love left-handed starters in my rotation. Either way (be it Luzardo or Cabrera), I'd have made the deal if the NYM signed Correa. Then I'd ship off Cookie for whatever else we needed (bullpen, 4th OF, utilityman, more bullpen w/options, salary dump, replenishing the minors, etc.). The Correa signing would have been transformative on multiple levels.
The trade I have long suggested here is Vientos and Mauricio for Luzardo. Marlins put Vientos at 1B. Mauricio could eventually have an opening at SS if he can stick defensively. (Marlins look like they are keeping Jazz at 2B). If not, maybe 3B or corner OF. Mets get a talented cost controlled starter.
-Mauricio didn’t make their top 150, wasn’t in the “next 50 or so”
- Tidwell was closest to making the top 100 but wasn’t particularly close. He, Vasil, Hamel and Ovalles are names to watch on the pitching side, Montes de Oca with “elite stuff”. So yeah not much on the P side as of right now
yes it might close a buying window on anyone who goes super nova, but that works both ways.
and without correa locked in the mets need a super nova hitter as much (or maybe more) as they need a super nova pitcher.
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I expect that as well. Three extra picks too in the first 4 rounds (Sproat, deGrom, and Bassitt). I wouldn't be surprised if of the 7 picks in the first 4 rounds, 5 are pitchers
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I expect that as well. Three extra picks too in the first 4 rounds (Sproat, deGrom, and Bassitt). I wouldn't be surprised if of the 7 picks in the first 4 rounds, 5 are pitchers
to be clear, the extra picks come *after* the 4th round. Maybe semantics but a little later than 4th round picks.
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Go pitching heavy in ‘23 draft. Not sure why we haven’t gone pitching heavy in Latin America at all.
I expect that as well. Three extra picks too in the first 4 rounds (Sproat, deGrom, and Bassitt). I wouldn't be surprised if of the 7 picks in the first 4 rounds, 5 are pitchers
to be clear, the extra picks come *after* the 4th round. Maybe semantics but a little later than 4th round picks.
Yes, just like football, I consider them 4th round comp picks, after the regular 4th round.
And I know you know this, but just to clarify for others reading, the compensation for Sproat will be between the 3rd and 4th rounds, as he was an unsigned 3rd rounder. The comp picks for Bassitt and deGrom are between the 4th and 5th rounds.
Is that correct? 32, 56, 101 I am on board with. The Mets regular 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 133 would be their regular 4th, and 134 and 144 the picks for deGrom and Bassitt.
Where I am confused is 122. I would think that is higher, as it is 21 picks after 101 (their 3rd), but only 11 picks before their 4th. It would seem to be about 10 spots higher.
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Is that correct? 32, 56, 101 I am on board with. The Mets regular 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 133 would be their regular 4th, and 134 and 144 the picks for deGrom and Bassitt.
Where I am confused is 122. I would think that is higher, as it is 21 picks after 101 (their 3rd), but only 11 picks before their 4th. It would seem to be about 10 spots higher.
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28 1st round picks
Seattle extra pick for Julio Rodriguez
10 Comp A picks
40-60 2nd round (8 teams forfeited their 2nds, Mets and Dodgers 1st picks are considered 2nd round, so 20 picks round 2)
6 comp B picks
2 compensation round picks (Cubs/Braves)-Contreras/Swanson
Third round 70- 101 (includes 2 extra picks, 1 for Sproat, 1 to Baltimore)
Round for 102-130
Mets picks
No first
Comp A (32nd)
56th round 2
91 and 101 round 3
122 round 4
133 and 134 (comp picks)
144 (moved up because 3 teams lost 5th round picks)
32, 56, 91, 101, 122, 134
Considered not 1st round, is what I meant to say
so picks are 32, 56, 91, 101, 122, 133, 134, 144 in the 1st 5 rounds. 8 of the top 145 picks is not a bad place to be. Numbers like that and the Mets need to get young pitching (I know to not draft for need) just screams loading up on pitching.
(I don't know how I feel about the extra pick for Julio Rodriguez. I get that it encourages teams to bring up top prospects. But in a situation similar to the Dodgers winning 5 ROY in a row (Piazza, Karros, Mondesi, Nomo, Hollandsworth), do we need to be giving these teams extra picks? Also, Senga is eligible for ROY. Are we going to give the extra pick to a team that signs the best 29 year old Japanese player who has been playing professionally for the bulk of a decade)
Jealous
Feed that kid a cheeseburger! STAT!
Yeah, that's definitely the crazier aspect. Ohtani was ROY. Imagine that being the rule back then? Congrats, Angels. You spent a buttload of money and signed a top Japanese FA. Here's a 1st round pick. Crazy
Strike that, offered one in 2014
Volpe (7), Peraza (48), Spencer Jones (57) and Jasson Dominguez (64)
Can’t believe the players agreed to that! Cmon MLBPA
Can’t believe the players agreed to that! Cmon MLBPA
"Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead."
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every year they have a payroll over a certain amount?
Can’t believe the players agreed to that! Cmon MLBPA
"Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead."
Assuming the Mets blow past the threshold every year, their pick will just be moved back 10 spots every year, correct? Or is it a penalty that increases in severity the more times (or consecutive times) you do it?
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every year they have a payroll over a certain amount?
Can’t believe the players agreed to that! Cmon MLBPA
"Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead."
Assuming the Mets blow past the threshold every year, their pick will just be moved back 10 spots every year, correct? Or is it a penalty that increases in severity the more times (or consecutive times) you do it?
Full CBT rules here
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Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!
Very solid rotation. Don't know how I feel about Arraez. Batting champ, hit .316. Crazy BB/K ratios. Obviously an excellent hitter (possibly the best pure hitter in the game), but 8 HRs and 4 SBs last year. With no power and no speed, hard player to value. He's almost a modern-day Tony Gwynn when that type of player isn't valued as much as back then in the 90s. Ultimately a good deal for the Marlins, as they have a pitching surplus and need the hitting. I'm sure Arraez will be a pain in ass for the Mets for the next few years until he's inevitably traded.
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Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!
Cabrera is better than Pablo IMO, and Luzardo probably as well. Pablo is 26. The other two are 24. Add in the fact that Pablo has 2 less years of control than Luzardo and 4 less than Cabrera and he has the least value, particularly for the Marlins.
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Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!
not sure i agree. prospects they gave up aside (who i dont know) they get 1 extra year of control of mcneil lite and while lopez may be the best of who they were shopping right now, im not sure how much upside there is relative to their others. he's very solid across the board but it's hard to envision any scenario where the marlins go anywhere regardless of what they do but if there is one longshot possibility it's got to be their 1 or 2 more of the higher upside starters hitting at once in a very big way along with alcantara. i presume this is the best position player with years of control they can get (and obviously to do it they also had to add prospects).
kind of a weird deal but that's the marlins. arraez/chisolm/segura is the makings of an at least interesting top of the order/IF that will be a pain in the ass to play against. especially if they can add more offense in lf/dh cheaply.
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Lopez and 2 unnamed prospects to the Twins for Arraez
Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!
Cabrera is better than Pablo IMO, and Luzardo probably as well. Pablo is 26. The other two are 24. Add in the fact that Pablo has 2 less years of control than Luzardo and 4 less than Cabrera and he has the least value, particularly for the Marlins.
right and now they add 1 extra year of control with Arraez so there's a window where if 1 of the other young SP breaks out to form a real 1-2 punch with Alcantara, they have a window for a few years.
this feels a bit like if mets traded niese back in 2012/2013 when he was 25/26 for one of the solid cost controlled position players we were hoping to find without having to trade wheeler/syndergaard. niese for starlin castro would have actually been kind of on the nose.
That’s, interesting. That answers my question then
Thanks Dan
Wow indeed. I'd try and pry away Luzardo or Cabrera from them still, somehow, someway (Mauricio + Vientos + whatever else).
No. 4 Francisco Álvarez
No. 17 Brett Baty
No. 64 Kevin Parada
No. 75 Jett Williams
No. 101 Alex Ramirez
but how many out of baseball former gms have they interviewed?
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Adalberto Mondesi is being traded to the Red Sox, per source. The Royals will receive Josh Taylor in exchange, while Boston will also receive a player to be named later.
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The Kansas City #Royals have been busy on the trade market, and still have a couple of more deals they are lining up now. Stay tuned.
Sounds like they don't think he can stick at SS
if he ends up in FA he'd be available for the minimum while retaining his salary from the red sox. i think at that point he'd be worth a flier. he pitched well when he came back from injury at the end of the year (1.5 era/2.8 fip in his 22 innings in the 2nd half).
id give up the 40 man spot (lee?) if it's a minimum deal because then he's just waivable if he stinks. the upside is worth it if he's pitching under a 3 era.
jmo but all 3 kids should have to put up monster springs to stick.
at DH it's a little more possible that ruf/vogey look like crap and maybe vientos just deserves the spot more without a monster spring, but he's been such a slow starter my preference would be to get those guys all off the ground fast at AAA before a call up.
a month in if either of baty/vientos are ops'ing over 900 at cuse they better be up though if the vets aren't earning their playing time at DH.
-sounds likely Baty/Alvarez open in AAA as Eppler sees real value to reps/performance there
-Matt Allan is in a “throwing program”
-Vientos will see time at 1B/3B, scouts don’t think he’s athletic enough to play OF and doubt he’s athletic enough to play 3B much
-unclear what the plan is for Mauricio position wise
One sleeper from the class is 6-foot-4, 195-pound outfielder Enderson Asencio (Dominican Republic), whose exit velocity, loud bat and power have reminded some scouts of Franmil Reyes.
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Mejía jumped from A-ball to the Marlins rotation in 2020 after COVID ravaged the big league pitching staff; under difficult circumstances, he performed as well as could be expected. Independent of any other variables, though, one big league call-up has a knack for begetting more, and such was the case in 2021 when a still-undercooked Mejía was again summoned to the majors for five starts down the stretch. Another big league battering highlighted his inexperience, particularly commanding his fastball, which got torched. He’s a slightly different pitcher now than he was two years ago, however, as he’s all but shelved the curve and has added a sinker, one that could actually play better than the four-seamer given his arm slot and low spin rate. His slider and change are viable (if hardly special) secondaries for a long relief or backend starter role, and that’s where we project him.
Was released in May by the Diamondbacks
@SNY_Mets
Marte underwent core surgery in November and will not be participating in the World Baseball Classic in November.
On Mets Hot Stove, our @martinonyc
reported that Marte's status for Opening Day will be determined in early February.
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Sources: Mets and Jeff McNeil have held recent extension talks.
There's optimism that a deal could get done.
u/fangraphs
. TB with an admittedly extremely deep farm
I know this is a computer ranking via their Shredder but still doesn't comprehend considering his all around game.
They also released top 100 prospects.
#3 Alvarez
# 21 Baty
#36 Parada
# 96 Ramirez
Springs getting 4 year $31 million was a little eye opening as well. I had him in fantasy last year and he was money but kind of figured he was doing it with smoke and mirrors. They must be inclined to think it's very repeatable.
-Hamels, Crick, Holland worked out for teams today. Heyman claims Hamels looked incredible but Heyman oddly tweets about Hamels all the time so who knows?
Jon Heyman
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Cole Hamels threw for teams today in Arlington, Texas, and was said to look “insanely good.” Predicts he will receive interest off this session. 88-91 mph.
If Hamels were willing to take a minor league deal with an opt-out then I'd be interested. Otherwise, don't see it.
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News, free and unlocked, at ESPN on Jeff McNeil's four-year, $50 million deal with the New York Mets. With McNeil not set to reach the open market until going into his age-33 season and free agency unkind to players with limited power, he went extension:
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Cole Hamels threw for teams today in Arlington, Texas, and was said to look “insanely good.” Predicts he will receive interest off this session. 88-91 mph.
If Hamels were willing to take a minor league deal with an opt-out then I'd be interested. Otherwise, don't see it.
When was the last time someone raved about someone looking insanely good and hitting upper 80s in the same breath??
For JV HS ball, maybe? That is one of the oddest fuckin comments I’ve read in a long, long time
Juan Toribio
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Yandy Díaz and the #Rays are closing in on a three-year, $24 million contract extension, sources tell me and
@Feinsand
. There’s an option for a fourth year.
Juan Toribio
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Yandy Díaz and the #Rays are closing in on a three-year, $24 million contract extension, sources tell me and
@Feinsand
. There’s an option for a fourth year.
When I first read this, I thought it said "Yennsy Diaz." Yiikes!
-Senga to skip the WBC
-Peterson and Megill will open in Syracuse if rotation is healthy heading OD
-Marte viewed as the backup CF as of now, Pham and McNeil (0 career games out there) other options. Interestingly doesn’t mention Canha
7 Alvarez
31 Baty
44 Parada
68 Ramirez
87 Mauricio
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PCA 26
Rodriguez 34
-Senga to skip the WBC
-Peterson and Megill will open in Syracuse if rotation is healthy heading OD
-Marte viewed as the backup CF as of now, Pham and McNeil (0 career games out there) other options. Interestingly doesn’t mention Canha
Will actually DM'ed me and said they published an unfinished version of his article and that -Canha remains the most likely backup CF but Marte may see some time out there vs. last season when he wasn't an option (Pham as well)
Age: 21 | Bats: Right | Throws: Right
Hit: 40/45, Game Power: 55/65, Raw Power: 65/70, Speed: 40/35, Fielding: 45/50, Throwing: 55/55
Type: Powerlifter who catches and will hit 30 homers some day
Reminds me of: He's somewhere in the Venn diagram of Gary Sanchez, Cal Raleigh, Salvador Perez and Willson Contreras.
As a 16-year-old from Venezuela, Alvarez was in the top tier of his international signing class. He signed for a $2.7 million bonus that ranked third-highest in the 2018 class. He is now the clear best player from a group that includes several players who place on this list: Diego Cartaya, Noelvi Marte, Marco Luciano, Orelvis Martinez, Kevin Alcantara, who all received seven-figure bonuses, and two breakout low-bonus prospects in Elly De La Cruz and Endy Rodriguez.
Alvarez's combination of game-changing power and premium position are the carrying tools. His contact ability is just OK and his speed won't help him leg out many infield hits, but Alvarez's shorter arms and incredible strength make for a scary combination for pitchers. Offensively, the question is how his approach and pitch selection will play in the big leagues. But his ceiling is 40 homers if it all clicks -- and that's not the ceiling of many players in the minor leagues, especially at his position.
On top of that, Alvarez has a real chance to be an everyday-quality defender behind the plate. He has always been built like a bowling ball, so his mobility isn't his biggest strength defensively. He makes up for it with his arm and he has made progress in all the soft skills like game-calling while physically staying loose and flexible. I think the four names in the Reminds Me Of section give you an idea of the different paths his career could take, with Gary Sanchez's a familiar roller-coaster ride that Mets fans are hoping to improve upon.
55 FV Tier
20. Brett Baty, 3B, New York Mets
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Age: 23 | Bats: Left | Throws: Right
Type: Power-over-hit corner guy
Baty is another prep hitter who has exceeded expectations despite being 19 years old on draft day. In high school, I loved the footwork and agility that he developed from playing multiple sports that helped in projecting him to stick at third base until at least his mid-20s. He is now 23 and about average defensively at third base, but can contribute at all four corner spots. At the plate, he has an average hit tool and pitch selection -- have to hope those don't end up being a notch or two lower -- with 25-30 home run upside if it all clicks.
56. Ronny Mauricio, SS, New York Mets
Age: 21 | Bats: Switch | Throws: Right
Type: Switch-hitting shortstop with massive upside, bad pitch selection.
The report On Mauricio has been about the same for four years: He has plus power potential, plus arm strength, slick actions at shortstop, and above average feel for the bat head, but swings far too often. He'll be 22 years old when the minor league season starts with a chase rate that is a 30-grade ability.
On the bright side, this is the part of hitting that clubs think is most coachable. Essentially, putting the bat on the ball consistently shows you have the eyesight to see the ball, thus the ability to be patient, it's just a matter of training the discipline of laying off the pitch. Mauricio has consistently been young for his level, so there's some natural growth to be expected as he matures, but he'll likely never be above average at this, as the concrete has mostly -- but not completely -- dried in my estimation. He also has the tools to be an above-average defender at shortstop but can be a bit of an adventure at times, which could also still be corrected.
If this all feels negative, he is ranked this high because he could break out and hit .270 with 25 homers at shortstop if things ever just click into place.
also has parada and ramirez listed as 50 grade prospects just outside the top 100.
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“I love that he’s a Long Beach State Dirtbag,” Longo recalled Eppler saying. “I want to make the Mets the ‘Dirtbags’ of MLB.”
“That would be really cool,” Longo replied. “Jeff would love to hear that.”
The two then ventured into planning mode, scrambling to figure out how Eppler could meet with McNeil before the work stoppage was set to begin in just a few weeks. The original plan was for all three men to convene in Los Angeles. But because Longo and Eppler already had shared history, the agent made a suggestion to the GM: “Why don’t you just go to dinner with Jeff and you two talk?”
So McNeil drove down from just north of Santa Barbara. Eppler drove up from southern Orange County. They met near LAX for dinner, making McNeil the first Mets player that Eppler sat down with as the new GM.
Sitting across the table, Eppler outlined the Mets’ expectations for McNeil and emphasized that whatever transpired during his 2021 season did not matter. That year, McNeil hit .251/.319/.360 with seven home runs in 426 plate appearances. It was a stark dropoff from his previous two campaigns, when he slashed .316/.384/.511 through 776 plate appearances. Still, Eppler told McNeil that his skill set was “extremely valuable for this organization.”
Longo recalled being pleased with the exchange. Experience has taught him that whenever a player hears directly from his employer that he is of value, the sentiment carries weight. It eases pressure. It supplies confidence. It helps.
After meeting with Eppler, McNeil told Longo something that would matter when it came time to talk about an extension: “I can play for that guy.”
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McNeil career OPS: .828
Correa career OPS: .836
McNeil is a steal!
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News, free and unlocked, at ESPN on Jeff McNeil's four-year, $50 million deal with the New York Mets. With McNeil not set to reach the open market until going into his age-33 season and free agency unkind to players with limited power, he went extension:
McNeil career OPS: .828
Correa career OPS: .836
McNeil is a steal!
they had leverage on him but still completely agree. id take 2 or 3 mcneils over a lot of the guys on 300m contracts.
The Mets have drafted exceptionally well, and have had some huge successes on the international front, at least in terms of getting guys who would become top-100 prospects. This year’s list has five current Mets prospects, plus two former Mets prospects in Pete Crow-Armstrong and Endy Rodriguez, to say nothing of other prospects they’ve traded away who have since graduated (like Andrés Giménez, Jarred Kelenic, Amed Rosario and more). The current system is pretty top-heavy, but the upper tier, which has the five guys on the top 100 plus two more I’d say were in the next 30-40, is good enough to make this a mid-level farm system overall. There’s some intriguing pitching much lower down, but nobody has popped yet to be a likely big-league starter.
also another good sammon article on baty working on his defense with troy tulowitzki.
“He’d be trying to show me up,” Baty said in a recent phone interview. “And, I mean, most of the time he would.”
Ahead of what could be a critical 2023 season, Baty sought help to improve defensively at third base. He turned to a former star shortstop in Tulowitzki, who essentially gave Baty a no-nonsense master class on how to be a pro. It was exactly what he wanted.
Baty’s time with Tulowitzki should only help.
Training with Tulowitzki, it turns out, includes getting instruction from guests. A couple of weeks ago, Blue Jays third baseman Matt Chapman and shortstop Bo Bichette joined the workout group at Texas. Tulowitzki, who played for Toronto near the end of his 13-year career, is close with Dante Bichette, Bo’s father, because of their deep ties to the Rockies. As a three-time Gold Glove award winner at third base, Chapman’s presence was especially beneficial.
“That was a really good experience,” Baty said. “He is one of the very best third basemen in the game. Just to be able to pick his brain about how he goes about his business over there, and how he fields, his cues and what helps him out was really good.”
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i think both he and alvarez should get 200-500 innings on defense in the first half, and then june/july 1 get consideration for DH (and occasional field work) if they are the best bats for the DH spot.
ahead of that vientos is the only one who should be considered for full time DH day 1 just because that's likely all his glove allows any way. but even with him unless he has an alonso 2019 spring, id probably get him on track in AAA for a month while giving ruf/vogey a shot to get off to good starts.
worst case they have a bad month or two, you trade for a vet at the deadline, and send them back down. but that's still not as bad of a case as never giving them a shot, wasting at bats on guys who had no future here, and then making trades for a guy who was probably one of the worst hitters in mlb over the second half.
"All of those players still have development benchmarks to hit, mostly on defense; because of that, they will not be given the chance to compete for the DH gig out of spring training."
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It's likely *why* they included language *if* he has TJ or elbow issues. The deal is done, he's saying before they agreed to the deal they had concerns.
only once AAA becomes a joke do they have to come up. though obviously if you have MLB guys not performing like last year the bar gets a little lower.
OF Alex Ramirez
C Kevin Parada
C Nick Meyer
RHP Grant Hartwig
RHP Connor Grey
RHP Eric Orze
C Hayden Senger
LHP Josh Walker
INF Jonathan Araúz
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.@Jim_Duquette proposes an 8-year, $240 million extension for Pete Alonso on Mets Hot Stove, while @martinonyc, Terry Collins, and @emacSNY discuss the possibility of a deal getting done this offseason: on.sny.tv/PJ2hYmJ
i think that's a lot closer to what he'd get as a UFA and not enough discount for the reality that he's 2 years away.
though i guess if you consider that he was 7m high on mcneil's 50m deal, that's 14%, so a similar miss here would bring the alonso guess down to 8 years 204m, which i think is pretty close.
i see the mets being willing to go longer with more total $ in return for a lower aav (and less tax) so i think my guess would be a 9 year $210m.
i think that's basically the deal, with a 9th year giving the mets a way to spread the hits out over 1 extra year.
8 years takes alonso through his a35, so i dont think he'd care to get back to UFA 1 year sooner vs a little extra total $ guaranteed but maybe after abreu's deal there's some hope to get another multi-year deal after 35.