#9 Alvarez
#16 Senga
#33 Baty
#50 Parada
#92 Ramirez
#98 Williams
Notable: Mauricio did not make the top 100. It's clear the scouting/prospect industry are far lower on Ronny Mauricio than many @mets fans are. I'm not saying one side is right, but that much is evident.
-Adam Duvall signed with Boston, 1 year 7 with incentives
Pete Crow-Armstrong at 25
Really liked the int'l signings as well
Pete Crow-Armstrong at 25
That hurts, particularly since nothing was gained much from either for more than half a season. Kelenic disappointing takes the sting off the Diaz trade and turns it into a win for the organization.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. They do have some interesting guys though. Allan (health willing obviously), Ziegler, Vasil, Diaz, Tidwell, and Hamel. None are top 100 prospects, but I could see 2-3 developing into mid to back end starters.
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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be fair, none of the pitchers in the system deserved top 100 consideration. The system remains very, very thin in SP prospects.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. They do have some interesting guys though. Allan (health willing obviously), Ziegler, Vasil, Diaz, Tidwell, and Hamel. None are top 100 prospects, but I could see 2-3 developing into mid to back end starters.
I have a bad feeling about Allan. I suspect we are going to hear he had another setback etc. Ernest Dove said he spoke to somebody who wouldn't commit to him being 100% ready for ST. He was originally supposed to pitch second half 2022 so *if* that's the case, something happened. The fact we have heard radio silence (even from the Resnick types) has me at the very least pessimistic.
I prefer this method in investing 1st round picks (at least high ones) in position players. Let the pitching be more of a numbers game in the draft. This year, I would have no issues with them going all (or primarily) pitching with the extra picks from losing deGrom and Bassitt, and not signing Sproat
Dan - do you get the feeling that the organizational philosophy is to draft position players and use free agency to sign proven pitchers - or are they just operating this way currently because of the current state of the farm system?
Dan, what are you thoughts on Fanas and Juan. Most rankings have Fanas a bit higher than Juan, but Juan was definitely the bigger name when he was signed.
I prefer this method in investing 1st round picks (at least high ones) in position players. Let the pitching be more of a numbers game in the draft. This year, I would have no issues with them going all (or primarily) pitching with the extra picks from losing deGrom and Bassitt, and not signing Sproat
Well picking pitchers particularly high and developing P or signing IFA P shouldn't go directly hand in hand. Even with their relatively high picks their P have left a lot to be desired.
Since 2016 they have used relatively high picks on Dunn/Kay/Peterson (DP looks good), Dibrell, SWR, Hill, Wolf, Allan, Ginn +Ziegler/Hamel (TBD), Tidwell (TBD), that's a pretty meek group (not including the TBD's). And that doesn't include "picked 8th round but has emerged as a potential MLB SP" types.
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be fair, none of the pitchers in the system deserved top 100 consideration. The system remains very, very thin in SP prospects.
Dan - do you get the feeling that the organizational philosophy is to draft position players and use free agency to sign proven pitchers - or are they just operating this way currently because of the current state of the farm system?
They are pretty open about the fact they have been "forced" to sign SP because they don't have internal options. If the goal is to mimic the Dodgers, they have a lot of work to do on the pitching side. The Dodgers routinely pick late and yet are LOADED with interesting arms.
Dan, what are you thoughts on Fanas and Juan. Most rankings have Fanas a bit higher than Juan, but Juan was definitely the bigger name when he was signed.
Watched them both pretty extensively this year. I'm far from a scout and even further when it comes to judging teenagers playing in DR but Fanas looked underdeveloped physically (he had *3* extra base hits) despite being an "older" DSL player (he's turning 19 next week, for comparisons sake Alex Ramirez just turned 20 and is *likely* going to see AA this season. Juan "looked the part" 6'2-6'3, showed plus speed, solid idea at the plate, won't be 18 until July. I was far more impressed with Juan (though neither one had strong seasons statistically). Hard to have expected a ton from Juan, but Fanas certainly disappointed.
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Dan-what are your thoughts on signing Britton? Is Pham on the radar?
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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Mets do have an offer out to Pham. Uncertain how many others are involved. He likely wants to assess playing time as he’d be 4th OF with Mets with some possible DH time
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Dan-what are your thoughts on signing Britton? Is Pham on the radar?
Pham is *on the radar* inasmuch they reportedly have expressed interest. That being said, he's reportedly still looking for a chance to start (Duvall got that in Boston). If that's his goal, he'll likely land on a bad team willing to allow that. Britton would be a fine "lottery ticket" but he's 35 years old and has pitched less than 40 innings since 2019. His velocity over the past 2 (a whopping 19 innings) was down a full 2 MPH. Of course, the more the merrier but he's a far inferior option to Chafin and Matt Moore.
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Mets do have an offer out to Pham. Uncertain how many others are involved. He likely wants to assess playing time as he’d be 4th OF with Mets with some possible DH time
Considering none of Canha/Nimmo/Marte have proven they can stay healthy all year there would be a lot of playing time with the Mets as long as the Mets want to keep McNeil at 2B. The bigger issue is what to do with Baty/Vientos.
Not particularly. He had a solid/nice season but he's still about projection and whether he can remain in CF. He posted a 121 wRC+ (very good but not outstanding), 8% walk rate (solid for his age but not outstanding) very solid 22% K rate but again... not "unusually good". I'm sure if you had a chance to speak to the people who put the list together they would say they remain high on him, that he had a solid/solid-strong season but didn't "break out" statistically. Ramirez has as good a shot as any of the Mets prospects as being #1 in the system at this point next year.
DRS last 2 seasons -4, OAA -12. 0 DRS in 2022, -6 OAA.
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Follow up question regarding Ramirez, he cracked most top 100 lists late last year, are you disappointed to still see him listed in the 90's?
Not particularly. He had a solid/nice season but he's still about projection and whether he can remain in CF. He posted a 121 wRC+ (very good but not outstanding), 8% walk rate (solid for his age but not outstanding) very solid 22% K rate but again... not "unusually good". I'm sure if you had a chance to speak to the people who put the list together they would say they remain high on him, that he had a solid/solid-strong season but didn't "break out" statistically. Ramirez has as good a shot as any of the Mets prospects as being #1 in the system at this point next year.
Man, it would be nice to have a big time OF prospect in the system. Like you said above, if he can be at AA by age 20, that's just tremendous.
-1.7 fWAR over the past 2 seasons with a 45 OPS+, no that's not a typo. Absolutely not.
-Not an ideal fit for the Mets as a 4th OFer (Eppler connection aside) but it appears Adell will open at AAA for the Angels
With regard to Mauricio, I get it due to the plate discipline, but I just don’t understand how you can have the winter league performance he just had and not have the guy in the top 100. These guys all get certain buzz performance standards and completely wiff on certain types of players (see Alonso).
With regard to Mauricio, I get it due to the plate discipline, but I just don’t understand how you can have the winter league performance he just had and not have the guy in the top 100. These guys all get certain buzz performance standards and completely wiff on certain types of players (see Alonso).
Rodriguez has developed into one of the top C prospects in baseball. That was truly an awful deal as Rodriguez hit at a high level immediately after signing.
if my memory is right nimmo was like that - his draft pedigree had him on lists his first few years but he slowly fell off them even as he advanced levels because his numbers didnt give him enough helium to move up (so instead he moved down as others move up).
the under ranking of alonso right before he hit 50 homers as a rookie has forever tainted me from taking these lists as seriously. it was clear in his full AAA season and fall league performance he was perhaps the best hitter in MILB other than vlad jr. and they were ranked like 50 players apart.
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Actually, the Mets have agreed to terms with Pham, pending physical, per source.
i like this signing. adding a little extra intensity into the clubhouse could be a good thing and i assume if he's a problem buck will be on top of it or he'll be gone in a nanosecond.
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Yes, Tommy Pham slapped a man because of fantasy football, but the background work Mets did on him turned up intel that he's a very well-liked teammate and good clubhouse presence. The man he slapped was on a different ballclub, after all
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Pham Mets deal: $6M
Worth noting, Nimmo's OPS before he cracked the list was .820, he had 40 extra base hits, 10 homers, 14 steals and a fantastic *394* OBP including 86 walks/105 k's. The following season his OPS was .734, he had 25 extra base hits, 5 steals. An OF with a then questionable glove being dropped seemed pretty accurate at the time.
Pham
Escobar
Nido
Guillorme
not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Pham
Escobar
Nido
Guillorme
not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Eppler yesterday indicated Escobar is likely the starting 3b, Baty to AAA
it's hard for me to remember exactly when he cycled on and off lists, but his a21 2014 was solid split between A+ and AA (550 pas, 130 wrc), his a22 2015 was good enough to get promoted from AA (110 rc) to AAA where he did even better with a 121 rc. then his a23 2016 he went crazy with a 159 rc in 444 plate appearances before getting promoted. so that was 3 years of decent trajectory with 400+ plate appearances each year and i dont remember him getting much hype pre debut as a prospect on the rise.
in honor of pham ill use a fantasy football phrase - some prospects turn into post-hype sleepers. i think mauricio and vientos (and to some degree even someone like kelenic) fall into that category.
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Pham
Escobar
Nido
Guillorme
not bad at all.
Pham will get a ton of playing time. Wouldn't surprise me if he got more PT than Canha.
Eppler yesterday indicated Escobar is likely the starting 3b, Baty to AAA
Got ya. Missed that. If Vients, Baty, and Alvarez all start at AAA, looks like Mendick is the favorite right now to get Escobar's spot on the bench.