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NFT: Mets chat: 6 Mets make BA top 100/Duvall signs with Boston

DanMetroMan : 1/18/2023 10:19 am
#9 Alvarez
#16 Senga
#33 Baty
#50 Parada
#92 Ramirez
#98 Williams

Notable: Mauricio did not make the top 100. It's clear the scouting/prospect industry are far lower on Ronny Mauricio than many @mets fans are. I'm not saying one side is right, but that much is evident.

-Adam Duvall signed with Boston, 1 year 7 with incentives
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DanMetroMan : 1/20/2023 2:59 pm : link
Ryan/Lopez/Gray/Mahle +Maeda/Ober. No ace, but that should be a very solid rotation
RE: Pablo  
Shecky : 1/20/2023 3:18 pm : link
In comment 16003597 DanMetroMan said:
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Lopez and 2 unnamed prospects to the Twins for Arraez


Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!
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KDavies : 1/20/2023 3:24 pm : link
In comment 16003604 DanMetroMan said:
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Ryan/Lopez/Gray/Mahle +Maeda/Ober. No ace, but that should be a very solid rotation


Very solid rotation. Don't know how I feel about Arraez. Batting champ, hit .316. Crazy BB/K ratios. Obviously an excellent hitter (possibly the best pure hitter in the game), but 8 HRs and 4 SBs last year. With no power and no speed, hard player to value. He's almost a modern-day Tony Gwynn when that type of player isn't valued as much as back then in the 90s. Ultimately a good deal for the Marlins, as they have a pitching surplus and need the hitting. I'm sure Arraez will be a pain in ass for the Mets for the next few years until he's inevitably traded.
RE: RE: Pablo  
KDavies : 1/20/2023 3:27 pm : link
In comment 16003635 Shecky said:
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In comment 16003597 DanMetroMan said:


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Lopez and 2 unnamed prospects to the Twins for Arraez



Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!


Cabrera is better than Pablo IMO, and Luzardo probably as well. Pablo is 26. The other two are 24. Add in the fact that Pablo has 2 less years of control than Luzardo and 4 less than Cabrera and he has the least value, particularly for the Marlins.
RE: RE: Pablo  
Eric on Li : 1/20/2023 4:13 pm : link
In comment 16003635 Shecky said:
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In comment 16003597 DanMetroMan said:


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Lopez and 2 unnamed prospects to the Twins for Arraez



Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!


not sure i agree. prospects they gave up aside (who i dont know) they get 1 extra year of control of mcneil lite and while lopez may be the best of who they were shopping right now, im not sure how much upside there is relative to their others. he's very solid across the board but it's hard to envision any scenario where the marlins go anywhere regardless of what they do but if there is one longshot possibility it's got to be their 1 or 2 more of the higher upside starters hitting at once in a very big way along with alcantara. i presume this is the best position player with years of control they can get (and obviously to do it they also had to add prospects).

kind of a weird deal but that's the marlins. arraez/chisolm/segura is the makings of an at least interesting top of the order/IF that will be a pain in the ass to play against. especially if they can add more offense in lf/dh cheaply.
RE: RE: RE: Pablo  
Eric on Li : 1/20/2023 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16003651 KDavies said:
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In comment 16003635 Shecky said:


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In comment 16003597 DanMetroMan said:


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Lopez and 2 unnamed prospects to the Twins for Arraez



Great trade for the Twins, and IMO an AWFUL move for the Marlins. Traded the best of the three pitchers they were shopping. Threw in a good prospect. And all they got was a Jeff McNeil lite. Not discounting Arraez, but that’s a complimentary player, not a build around.
And the way the Marlins always operate, they will stupidly move Jazz eventually because if this lol. Holy shit is that kid a personality and a half!!!



Cabrera is better than Pablo IMO, and Luzardo probably as well. Pablo is 26. The other two are 24. Add in the fact that Pablo has 2 less years of control than Luzardo and 4 less than Cabrera and he has the least value, particularly for the Marlins.


right and now they add 1 extra year of control with Arraez so there's a window where if 1 of the other young SP breaks out to form a real 1-2 punch with Alcantara, they have a window for a few years.

this feels a bit like if mets traded niese back in 2012/2013 when he was 25/26 for one of the solid cost controlled position players we were hoping to find without having to trade wheeler/syndergaard. niese for starlin castro would have actually been kind of on the nose.
Thanks, Dan.  
Jim in Hoboken : 1/20/2023 4:37 pm : link
Reasonable rankings.
Jazz  
DanMetroMan : 1/20/2023 5:09 pm : link
will now be a CFer wow
Twins  
DanMetroMan : 1/20/2023 5:12 pm : link
got back a legit top 100 prospect and an interesting lottery ticket type.
RE: Jazz  
Shecky : 1/20/2023 6:02 pm : link
In comment 16003800 DanMetroMan said:
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will now be a CFer wow


That’s, interesting. That answers my question then
Thanks Dan
RE: Jazz  
Optimus-NY : 1/20/2023 6:18 pm : link
In comment 16003800 DanMetroMan said:
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will now be a CFer wow


Wow indeed. I'd try and pry away Luzardo or Cabrera from them still, somehow, someway (Mauricio + Vientos + whatever else).
BP  
DanMetroMan : 1/23/2023 1:25 pm : link
Top 101
No. 4 Francisco Álvarez
No. 17 Brett Baty
No. 64 Kevin Parada
No. 75 Jett Williams
No. 101 Alex Ramirez
mcneil in ny today at citi and tonight at nyr game with his agent  
Eric on Li : 1/23/2023 9:42 pm : link
plus john franco. hopefully an extension soon to be announced.
It’s a slow news time of the year  
Shecky : 1/23/2023 9:53 pm : link
But Mets are in the midst of some incredible hires to help rebuild the ML system inside and out. Incredibly excited to see it implemented, and hoping to see some surprising growth from a lot of unknown names. Fingers crossed.
RE: It’s a slow news time of the year  
Eric on Li : 1/23/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16011165 Shecky said:
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But Mets are in the midst of some incredible hires to help rebuild the ML system inside and out. Incredibly excited to see it implemented, and hoping to see some surprising growth from a lot of unknown names. Fingers crossed.


but how many out of baseball former gms have they interviewed?
Mauricio  
DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 11:20 am : link
didn't crack MLB.com's top 13 SS prospects. Alvarez previously #1 at C, Parada 3, Baty #2 at 3b
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DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 12:25 pm : link
Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
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Adalberto Mondesi is being traded to the Red Sox, per source. The Royals will receive Josh Taylor in exchange, while Boston will also receive a player to be named later.
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DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 1:11 pm : link
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
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9m
The Kansas City #Royals have been busy on the trade market, and still have a couple of more deals they are lining up now. Stay tuned.
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DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 2:45 pm : link
Chicago White Sox pitcher Mike Clevinger is under investigation by Major League Baseball following allegations of domestic violence involving the mother of his 10-month-old daughter and child abuse.
Saucedo  
DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 4:34 pm : link
DFA'ed to make room for Pham.
RE: Mauricio  
Vanzetti : 1/24/2023 4:58 pm : link
In comment 16011812 DanMetroMan said:
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didn't crack MLB.com's top 13 SS prospects. Alvarez previously #1 at C, Parada 3, Baty #2 at 3b


Sounds like they don't think he can stick at SS
Rosenthal  
DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 5:01 pm : link
says it's unlikely the Mets sign a RP who doesn't have options left. Kind of odd they are obsessing over this vs. going for Chafin/Moore. They have 4 total RP's out of options (5 if you include Nogosek) vs. EVERYBODY else having options remaining.
red sox DFA matt barnes  
Eric on Li : 1/24/2023 9:09 pm : link
they have a week to work out a trade and if not i cant imagine anyone will claim him at 7.5m. honestly im not even sure i'd swap him for any contract the mets have (even ruf @ 3m).

if he ends up in FA he'd be available for the minimum while retaining his salary from the red sox. i think at that point he'd be worth a flier. he pitched well when he came back from injury at the end of the year (1.5 era/2.8 fip in his 22 innings in the 2nd half).
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DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 9:33 pm : link
Don’t see the Mets being in on Barnes. The 40 man is full and they have been reluctant on Chafin/Moore/Britton because they want optionable arms. Sure, if he takes a minor league deal but I doubt it’ll come to that.
Expectation is  
DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 9:36 pm : link
Escobar is the starting 3B. Apparently, he was dealing with some off field/family stuff last season.
sure  
DanMetroMan : 1/24/2023 9:41 pm : link
sounds like Baty would have to put up a monster spring (including substantial improvement in the field) to unseat Escobar coming out of ST as Escobar is apparently a Buck favorite.
RE: I  
Eric on Li : 1/24/2023 11:09 pm : link
In comment 16012891 DanMetroMan said:
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Don’t see the Mets being in on Barnes. The 40 man is full and they have been reluctant on Chafin/Moore/Britton because they want optionable arms. Sure, if he takes a minor league deal but I doubt it’ll come to that.


id give up the 40 man spot (lee?) if it's a minimum deal because then he's just waivable if he stinks. the upside is worth it if he's pitching under a 3 era.
RE: sure  
Eric on Li : 1/24/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16012900 DanMetroMan said:
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sounds like Baty would have to put up a monster spring (including substantial improvement in the field) to unseat Escobar coming out of ST as Escobar is apparently a Buck favorite.


jmo but all 3 kids should have to put up monster springs to stick.

at DH it's a little more possible that ruf/vogey look like crap and maybe vientos just deserves the spot more without a monster spring, but he's been such a slow starter my preference would be to get those guys all off the ground fast at AAA before a call up.

a month in if either of baty/vientos are ops'ing over 900 at cuse they better be up though if the vets aren't earning their playing time at DH.
Sammon  
DanMetroMan : 1/25/2023 8:56 am : link
- Baty to focus on 3B, unclear if he’ll see LF time
-sounds likely Baty/Alvarez open in AAA as Eppler sees real value to reps/performance there
-Matt Allan is in a “throwing program”
-Vientos will see time at 1B/3B, scouts don’t think he’s athletic enough to play OF and doubt he’s athletic enough to play 3B much
-unclear what the plan is for Mauricio position wise
Per  
DanMetroMan : 1/25/2023 8:57 am : link
Sammon

One sleeper from the class is 6-foot-4, 195-pound outfielder Enderson Asencio (Dominican Republic), whose exit velocity, loud bat and power have reminded some scouts of Franmil Reyes.
Cryptic  
DanMetroMan : 1/25/2023 10:14 am : link
But was just told the Mets have been very hush hush with Allan and it’s believed he’s had a “tough road” back. May or may not be ready for ST. I’m not expecting much at this point
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DanMetroMan : 1/25/2023 10:24 am : link
Jim Edmonds/Kenny Lofton are egregious 1 and dones . There are *2* CF with higher JAWS than Kenny Lofton not in the HOF… Mike Trout and Carlos Beltran. Edmonds? Those 3 and Andruw Jones
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 1/25/2023 5:29 pm : link
sign Humberto Mejia to a minor league deal

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Mejía jumped from A-ball to the Marlins rotation in 2020 after COVID ravaged the big league pitching staff; under difficult circumstances, he performed as well as could be expected. Independent of any other variables, though, one big league call-up has a knack for begetting more, and such was the case in 2021 when a still-undercooked Mejía was again summoned to the majors for five starts down the stretch. Another big league battering highlighted his inexperience, particularly commanding his fastball, which got torched. He’s a slightly different pitcher now than he was two years ago, however, as he’s all but shelved the curve and has added a sinker, one that could actually play better than the four-seamer given his arm slot and low spin rate. His slider and change are viable (if hardly special) secondaries for a long relief or backend starter role, and that’s where we project him.


Was released in May by the Diamondbacks
Michael  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2023 1:07 pm : link
Perez returns on a minor league deal. Perez should be a solid veteran influence on Alvarez assuming Alvarez opens in Syracuse. Alvarez will also have J.P. Arencibia as his bench coach.
Mendick  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2023 1:33 pm : link
believes he will be ready/healthy for OD.
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DanMetroMan : 1/26/2023 1:54 pm : link
SNY Mets
@SNY_Mets
Marte underwent core surgery in November and will not be participating in the World Baseball Classic in November.

On Mets Hot Stove, our @martinonyc
reported that Marte's status for Opening Day will be determined in early February.
here we go - locking up polar bear and squirrel ahead of ST  
Eric on Li : 1/27/2023 3:24 pm : link
would be great.

Michael Mayer @mikemayer22
1m
Sources: Mets and Jeff McNeil have held recent extension talks.

There's optimism that a deal could get done.
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DanMetroMan : 1/27/2023 3:26 pm : link
Neither Keryshawn Askew or Matt Dyer cracked TB's top 48 prospects for
u/fangraphs
. TB with an admittedly extremely deep farm
Lindor  
GF1080 : 1/27/2023 3:33 pm : link
MLB top SS had Lindor as #5 best SS last night. What a joke.
I know this is a computer ranking via their Shredder but still doesn't comprehend considering his all around game.

They also released top 100 prospects.

#3 Alvarez
# 21 Baty
#36 Parada
# 96 Ramirez
Fairbanks  
DanMetroMan : 1/27/2023 3:35 pm : link
3 years, 4th year option for the Rays. I really love the off-season they are having. I wouldn't be shocked to see this be the year they make a trade for a big-name in-season. They will give the Yankees a run for their money in the AL East (Toronto too).
RE: Fairbanks  
GF1080 : 1/27/2023 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16016148 DanMetroMan said:
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3 years, 4th year option for the Rays. I really love the off-season they are having. I wouldn't be shocked to see this be the year they make a trade for a big-name in-season. They will give the Yankees a run for their money in the AL East (Toronto too).


Springs getting 4 year $31 million was a little eye opening as well. I had him in fantasy last year and he was money but kind of figured he was doing it with smoke and mirrors. They must be inclined to think it's very repeatable.
Springs  
DanMetroMan : 1/27/2023 3:45 pm : link
looks legit to me. No red flags that I can come up with other than limited track record of being this good.

-Hamels, Crick, Holland worked out for teams today. Heyman claims Hamels looked incredible but Heyman oddly tweets about Hamels all the time so who knows?
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DanMetroMan : 1/27/2023 3:46 pm : link

Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Cole Hamels threw for teams today in Arlington, Texas, and was said to look “insanely good.” Predicts he will receive interest off this session. 88-91 mph.

If Hamels were willing to take a minor league deal with an opt-out then I'd be interested. Otherwise, don't see it.
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DanMetroMan : 1/27/2023 4:20 pm : link

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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News, free and unlocked, at ESPN on Jeff McNeil's four-year, $50 million deal with the New York Mets. With McNeil not set to reach the open market until going into his age-33 season and free agency unkind to players with limited power, he went extension:
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Shecky : 1/27/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16016157 DanMetroMan said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Cole Hamels threw for teams today in Arlington, Texas, and was said to look “insanely good.” Predicts he will receive interest off this session. 88-91 mph.

If Hamels were willing to take a minor league deal with an opt-out then I'd be interested. Otherwise, don't see it.


When was the last time someone raved about someone looking insanely good and hitting upper 80s in the same breath??

For JV HS ball, maybe? That is one of the oddest fuckin comments I’ve read in a long, long time
Rays  
DanMetroMan : 1/28/2023 11:58 am : link
again


Juan Toribio
@juanctoribio
Yandy Díaz and the #Rays are closing in on a three-year, $24 million contract extension, sources tell me and
@Feinsand
. There’s an option for a fourth year.
RE: Rays  
Vanzetti : 1/29/2023 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16016681 DanMetroMan said:
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again


Juan Toribio
@juanctoribio
Yandy Díaz and the #Rays are closing in on a three-year, $24 million contract extension, sources tell me and
@Feinsand
. There’s an option for a fourth year.



When I first read this, I thought it said "Yennsy Diaz." Yiikes!
Per  
DanMetroMan : 1/30/2023 8:48 am : link
Will Sammon

-Senga to skip the WBC
-Peterson and Megill will open in Syracuse if rotation is healthy heading OD
-Marte viewed as the backup CF as of now, Pham and McNeil (0 career games out there) other options. Interestingly doesn’t mention Canha
Keith  
DanMetroMan : 1/30/2023 8:53 am : link
Law

7 Alvarez
31 Baty
44 Parada
68 Ramirez
87 Mauricio

Ex-Mets
PCA 26
Rodriguez 34
RE: Per  
DanMetroMan : 1/30/2023 10:27 am : link
In comment 16019511 DanMetroMan said:
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Will Sammon

-Senga to skip the WBC
-Peterson and Megill will open in Syracuse if rotation is healthy heading OD
-Marte viewed as the backup CF as of now, Pham and McNeil (0 career games out there) other options. Interestingly doesn’t mention Canha


Will actually DM'ed me and said they published an unfinished version of his article and that -Canha remains the most likely backup CF but Marte may see some time out there vs. last season when he wasn't an option (Pham as well)
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