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Whats Up w/ Azeez Ojulari

GiantGrit : 1/18/2023 5:50 pm
Comes out of a playoff game and then within hours it is reported he can play the next week.

Dan Duggan just tweeted “Azeez Ojulari says his thigh is very painful. He’s planning on playing but his effectiveness will be determined by his pain tolerance”

Look, I’m not doubting his thigh hurts like a mother. Deep bruises suck….but its a divisional playoff game? You seriously can’t play through that? They seriously can’t do anything to numb the area (i’m not even talking painkillers).

Is anyone else annoyed by this? Lane Johnson is playing with a torn adductor. I’ll say it, seems a bit soft.
Dan Duggan on Azeez Ojulari - ( New Window )
He’s planning on playing through the injury  
Metnut : 1/18/2023 5:51 pm : link
What more do you want?
RE: He’s planning on playing through the injury  
Giantology : 1/18/2023 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16001270 Metnut said:
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What more do you want?


His soul. Only then will GiantGrit be satisfied.
This game is a quick turn around  
DavidinBMNY : 1/18/2023 5:55 pm : link
And he's just racing time for how recovered it will be by gameday.

It's a good sign he's playing, and hopefully he is healthy enough to make a meaningful positive impact on the field.
Everyones banged up this time of year  
mattlawson : 1/18/2023 5:57 pm : link
We get what he can give - and as a fan you have to hope that's enough to win
Duggan's tweet left out his follow-up comment  
Mad Mike : 1/18/2023 6:00 pm : link
that he strives for the toughness of internet poster GiantGrit, but simply isn't at that level. He considers it his biggest shortcoming in life.
RE: He’s planning on playing through the injury  
GiantGrit : 1/18/2023 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16001270 Metnut said:
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What more do you want?


I’d like him to play the whole game with a thigh contusion. He’s left multiple games this year including last week. If we were discussing a concussion, sprained knee etc. I would completely understand. We absolutely need his pass rushing. He has a thigh contusion. Its really a hot take to be frustrated he wouldn’t play through that?
I think we need to give  
Dave on the UWS : 1/18/2023 6:08 pm : link
you a helmet to your quad. After you’re writhing in pain for 10 min on the ground , let’s see you walk away without a stretcher. I would bet 3 paychecks you couldn’t even stand up. Another “winner” here on BBI. Brother!
RE: Duggan's tweet left out his follow-up comment  
clatterbuck : 1/18/2023 6:10 pm : link
In comment 16001280 Mad Mike said:
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that he strives for the toughness of internet poster GiantGrit, but simply isn't at that level. He considers it his biggest shortcoming in life.

+1
RE: This game is a quick turn around  
GiantGrit : 1/18/2023 6:10 pm : link
In comment 16001274 DavidinBMNY said:
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And he's just racing time for how recovered it will be by gameday.

It's a good sign he's playing, and hopefully he is healthy enough to make a meaningful positive impact on the field.


Realistically it won’t recover. Deep contusions definitely linger, I just figured they would have an effective way to mitigate his pain. Maybe they do. We really need him to play.
RE: RE: He’s planning on playing through the injury  
UConn4523 : 1/18/2023 6:14 pm : link
In comment 16001283 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 16001270 Metnut said:


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What more do you want?



I’d like him to play the whole game with a thigh contusion. He’s left multiple games this year including last week. If we were discussing a concussion, sprained knee etc. I would completely understand. We absolutely need his pass rushing. He has a thigh contusion. Its really a hot take to be frustrated he wouldn’t play through that?


Sounds like he will try to play through it. Not sure what this thread achieves though, you’ll find out on Saturday.
I think we need to give  
Dave on the UWS : 1/18/2023 6:26 pm : link
you a helmet to your quad. After you’re writhing in pain for 10 min on the ground , let’s see you walk away without a stretcher. I would bet 3 paychecks you couldn’t even stand up. Another “winner” here on BBI. Brother!
It’s fair to be tougher on Ojulari considering his injury history this  
gersh : 1/18/2023 6:31 pm : link
seaon

It’s also fair to pony out that a lot of guys (everyone) is plying through pain this time of year.

What is unfair is assume you know how much loan how is in (though, if I’m being totally honest, a thigh contusion doesn’t sound like something that keeps someone out of playoff game- but I’m also just a poster on an internet site)
……  
gersh : 1/18/2023 6:32 pm : link
Sorry for the typos - will proofread next time. That made no sense
Hey Grit  
MNP70 : 1/18/2023 6:39 pm : link
I bet if he shook your hand you wouldn't be able to type stupid comments like yours for a week.
I think you guys are being a bit unfair to  
gersh : 1/18/2023 7:01 pm : link
Giantgrit. His OP is not unreasonable. I’m sure we would still be in bed, but is it so wrong to pose the question?
He  
darren in pdx : 1/18/2023 7:09 pm : link
said he's going to try play through it, what exactly is the point of this?
Missing games is not a way  
joeinpa : 1/18/2023 7:59 pm : link
To make big money. Pretty sure he wants to play more than we want him to play

It s astonishing to me when people question these guys. I ve been around pro athletes, you have no idea how tough they are.
If he's able to play  
Bill in UT : 1/18/2023 8:01 pm : link
at a higher level with the injury than his replacement can play, he needs to be in there. This is the NFL playoffs- pussies apply elsewhere. And yeah, I would be in there with a quad contusion if my team needed me
Kid is good  
Carl in CT : 1/18/2023 8:22 pm : link
But is jello. Weak when it comes to toughness.
RE: I think you guys are being a bit unfair to  
MNP70 : 1/18/2023 8:31 pm : link
In comment 16001328 gersh said:
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Giantgrit. His OP is not unreasonable. I’m sure we would still be in bed, but is it so wrong to pose the question?


Hey gersh, have you ever heard of turf toe? Doesn't sound so painful that you couldn't "just play through it, it's the playoffs" It's one of the most excruciating injuries from a pain perspective I have personally had to go through to play. And also, who is Dan Duggan to speak of someone's tolerance to pain when it comes to playing pro sports? He mentions NOTHING on his LinkedIn profile that he's ever tried it. I honestly do not put a whole lot of thought behind what a reporter says. And if someone on the Giants said that to him, who was it? Was it a teammate or coach or a member of the training staff? Now, that's a story. But I'd bet his salary that no one even insinuated that to him. It's his opinion and that's it.

You wanna know how F-ing painful this game is? Read Tim Green's "The dark side of the game" when he talks about how much pain it is for a player, especially a lineman, to even do something like you and I may do several times a day like shake someone's hand to say hello? Those guys go through hell on every play in pre-season, camp and the regular season including playoffs if you're lucky. 3 years in college, going up against some kid looking to make it to scout team. But then some schmuck like Dan Duggan writes, without backing it up, that Azeez' effectiveness will be up to his pain tolerance. According to who, Dan? Name names. Then I'll have respect for you.

So gersh, IMO, Yes. Grit's post IS unreasonable. Shit like that, if it were true, would be handled in the locker room. I suggest Dan go up to him after practice and ask him what his pain tolerance is to play in an NFL post season game. What, 54 out of 100? what about 66? Hmmm... maybe 81?

Make sure all of your Madden rankings are up to date before you make your next post.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/18/2023 8:32 pm : link
He has had a frustrating AF season. When he's been on the field, he's been UFB. The problem is he hasn't seen a ton of the field.
I read that LT once missed multiple games  
Matt123 : 1/18/2023 8:37 pm : link
From this type of injury.

Everyone has different pain tolerance and experiences  
Mike from SI : 1/18/2023 8:39 pm : link
different degrees of pain for the "same" injury. I had planter fasciitis while I was playing sports in high school, and while very annoying, it wasn't the end of the world. Meanwhile, I have a good friend who said it's one of the more painful things he's ever endured.

I can give several other anecdotes (and usually I'm the one complaining about pain being more than it should like a baby). Unless I have reason to believe otherwise, I'm not judging another human on the pain they're experiencing. There are many more worthwhile things to care about. He's costing himself money, hard to think he's just simply not tough enough, or whatever.
Here is some good information  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 1/18/2023 8:57 pm : link
on how to treat a thigh bruise in an Athlete to get them back to playing shape fast
Link - ( New Window )
RE: I read that LT once missed multiple games  
section125 : 1/18/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16001407 Matt123 said:
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From this type of injury.


LT played 10 days after getting a broken ankle and played through a torn pec against the Saints and had 3 sacks...Don't remember him missing a game for a quad bruise..could have, but I do not remember it.
I think he has be in pain  
JerrysKids : 1/18/2023 9:03 pm : link
And it’s affecting his performance. He’s a tough dude no way you made it this far in football without a high tolerance for pain. Just have to accept the situation as it is.
Not all contusions are created equal  
allstarjim : 1/18/2023 9:06 pm : link
Unless you have inside info that speaks to otherwise, if a player is hurt and he's out of the lineup bc of it, you should just assume it's legit and cut some slack.
RE: I read that LT once missed multiple games  
Rico : 1/18/2023 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16001407 Matt123 said:
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From this type of injury.


Remember that cocaine is an excellent local anesthetic!
Playing hurt  
Jctony : 1/18/2023 11:35 pm : link
Ive read no medals for trying ,and saw the game Lott wanted his finger amputated. Thigh bruise?
MN  
gersh : 1/19/2023 7:40 am : link
That was a lot of words
I appreciate the advice but I don’t play video games
Have a good day
Not for nothing..but..  
rnargi : 1/19/2023 7:51 am : link
..
Lonk - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I read that LT once missed multiple games  
Victor in CT : 1/19/2023 8:04 am : link
In comment 16001434 section125 said:
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In comment 16001407 Matt123 said:


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From this type of injury.




LT played 10 days after getting a broken ankle and played through a torn pec against the Saints and had 3 sacks...Don't remember him missing a game for a quad bruise..could have, but I do not remember it.


me neither.
RE: I read that LT once missed multiple games  
Bubba : 1/19/2023 8:22 am : link
In comment 16001407 Matt123 said:
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From this type of injury.


I would like to know when this was. The only length of time I recall LT missing multiple games was when he tore his achilles.
Outside of the Achilles  
Greg from LI : 1/19/2023 9:04 am : link
The only games LT missed in his career were the four game suspension in 1988 and two games in 1991.
My comment about LT  
Matt123 : 1/19/2023 9:14 am : link
My comment was intended to be sarcasm. LT missing multiple games from a bruise?

I agree with the points that 1) we have no idea what Azeez is going through and 2) it's silly for any of us to sit on our couch and question a guys toughness.

That said, we're used to seeing players fight to get back on the field but get restrained buy trainers/coaches. That doesn't seem to be the case here. There's also mounting frustration as he never seems to stay on the field. When is it just bad luck vs a trend? Can you rely on him to be a starter next year? Does he fit smart/tough/dependable?

Even If He Isnr't Completely healthy  
LTIsTheGreatest : 1/19/2023 9:27 am : link
If hes in there the Eagles have to account for him which could free up someone else to better get to Hurts. Either a LB or a safety on certain plays so hopefully he can at least be out there and be partially effective
RE: My comment about LT  
MotownGIANTS : 1/19/2023 10:18 am : link
In comment 16001835 Matt123 said:
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My comment was intended to be sarcasm. LT missing multiple games from a bruise?

I agree with the points that 1) we have no idea what Azeez is going through and 2) it's silly for any of us to sit on our couch and question a guys toughness.

That said, we're used to seeing players fight to get back on the field but get restrained buy trainers/coaches. That doesn't seem to be the case here. There's also mounting frustration as he never seems to stay on the field. When is it just bad luck vs a trend? Can you rely on him to be a starter next year? Does he fit smart/tough/dependable?


Looking like smart, tough .... dependable is in question
Back to LT  
allstarjim : 1/19/2023 12:23 pm : link
We all know LT was feeling no pain in those games. In a lot of games.

Different times, that stuff doesn't fly anymore.
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