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Golladay on what he can contribute

jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/19/2023 7:07 am
I guess one great block in the playoffs for $72 million is better than nothing. LOL

Seriously, it is good that he has not become a locker room cancer which would be easy to do given his situation.
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Thanks for posting.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/19/2023 7:20 am : link
I would just note that when he "mouthed off" early in the season, David Sills had passed him on the depth chart.

If I were benched for David Sills, I'd probably mouth off too. And I get even less separation than Kenny Golladay, with worse hands.
What is interesting to me and an even further indictment on Judge/Gett  
bhill410 : 1/19/2023 7:35 am : link
Is that they interviewed him for like 2 days over motivation and personality concerns. Meanwhile it’s his physical traits that prevent him from performing but he seems to have been a standup citizen (at least from outside).
Too  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2023 7:56 am : link
much is being made of that block. The defender was tripping over his own feet and completely unbalanced. He just shoved him. Good for him, but ...
I am a firm believer in this ...  
robbieballs2003 : 1/19/2023 8:00 am : link
His hip injury in Detroit was worse than anyone thought. People want to question his motivation and effort. They have a right to do so. However guys don't just fall off cliffs like this unless it is health related. His years in Detroit didn't happen on accident. I will keep saying this. Watch him in Detroit and then watch him here. It isn't the same player physically.

What did stand out to me were tow things prior to the block. Imagine being in his position. Seriously. He signs a big deal to come here. He doesn't perform. He gets KILLED by everybody. That's got to really affect your life in and 9ut of football. It would be easy to feel like an outsider on this team. One, I liked that he was one of 3 players to pick up the tab at the restaurant they went to when they clinched a playoff spot. Two, when he caught that TD pass, players went nuts for him. He obviously has a great relationahip with the team. It would have been easy to check out.

Now, I'm not saying we should keep him. I think he's smart enough to understand he will be let go next year or he will negotiate a very low contract here. I'm not saying the second part is likely, just that it could be an option like Slayton.

Nobody is happy with the contract or the production but this was more on the medical staff than Golladay himself. We talk about all these injuries that we suffered for a decade. People like to look at just one thing but it us never one thingm it is a combination of things. In this case, imo, it wasn't wise to sign him coming off the injury in Detroit and now knowing, at least to me, that he was not the same player in Detroit.
It would be very easy to tune out  
j_rud : 1/19/2023 8:05 am : link
Says a lot that he hasnt.
Just want the season to end  
Carson53 : 1/19/2023 8:28 am : link
whenever that happens (hopefully not soon)...and that sends Golladay packing before the new season starts in March.
I'll even drive him to the airport, haha!
Two years of uselessness, great signing by Dave.
If he complained he probably knows he d look foolish.  
Blue21 : 1/19/2023 8:48 am : link
The tape don't lie. He knows the only reason he's here is his big contract. Whatever he contributes we have to accept. And Eric's right that block was nothing but someone stumbling and he pushed him then made sure he didn't get up. I wish him no I'll will but at this point he made a bunch of money for doing little.
He might not be able to play but he hasn't quit  
markky : 1/19/2023 8:52 am : link
that says a lot about him. And that's just one more of a list of things that players notice. It all matters.

I'm bummed we signed him to a large contract but I have absolutely no issue with Golladay the person.
He is apparently well regarded by team mates  
upstatenyg : 1/19/2023 9:23 am : link
and the WR core. Amazing that he hasn't complained, and says a lot of Coaching and him.

Would love to see him as a decoy and maybe his second TD on Saturday night.
RE: I am a firm believer in this ...  
Racer : 1/19/2023 9:45 am : link
In comment 16001759 robbieballs2003 said:
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His hip injury in Detroit was worse than anyone thought. People want to question his motivation and effort. They have a right to do so. However guys don't just fall off cliffs like this unless it is health related. His years in Detroit didn't happen on accident. I will keep saying this. Watch him in Detroit and then watch him here. It isn't the same player physically.

What did stand out to me were tow things prior to the block. Imagine being in his position. Seriously. He signs a big deal to come here. He doesn't perform. He gets KILLED by everybody. That's got to really affect your life in and 9ut of football. It would be easy to feel like an outsider on this team. One, I liked that he was one of 3 players to pick up the tab at the restaurant they went to when they clinched a playoff spot. Two, when he caught that TD pass, players went nuts for him. He obviously has a great relationahip with the team. It would have been easy to check out.

Now, I'm not saying we should keep him. I think he's smart enough to understand he will be let go next year or he will negotiate a very low contract here. I'm not saying the second part is likely, just that it could be an option like Slayton.

Nobody is happy with the contract or the production but this was more on the medical staff than Golladay himself. We talk about all these injuries that we suffered for a decade. People like to look at just one thing but it us never one thingm it is a combination of things. In this case, imo, it wasn't wise to sign him coming off the injury in Detroit and now knowing, at least to me, that he was not the same player in Detroit.


Great post. It sucks to play poorly in this town; ask Evan Engram. Your section on the eye test here vs. Detroit, and I'd argue his first year here vs. what he looks like now, can't be underscored enough. The CBs look like they're taking a play off when he's their assignment.

I still think he might out-stride Bradberry if he can get to top gear after a 5 step drop and a pat.
RE: Too  
Route 9 : 1/19/2023 9:53 am : link
In comment 16001756 Eric from BBI said:
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much is being made of that block. The defender was tripping over his own feet and completely unbalanced. He just shoved him. Good for him, but ...


No. He did spoil us with that demonstration. We'll take it.
He passed physical, which makes me dubious of our medical staff  
MeanBunny : 1/19/2023 9:58 am : link
If some idiot offers him 72 million of course you don't blame him. That's on Gettlehead and medical staff and scouting.
With massive rash of injuries at beginning of season I really wonder about trainers and medical at HQ
RE: He passed physical, which makes me dubious of our medical staff  
Optimus-NY : 1/19/2023 10:12 am : link
In comment 16001877 MeanBunny said:
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If some idiot offers him 72 million of course you don't blame him. That's on Gettlehead and medical staff and scouting.
With massive rash of injuries at beginning of season I really wonder about trainers and medical at HQ


+1
RE: Too  
ZogZerg : 1/19/2023 10:18 am : link
In comment 16001756 Eric from BBI said:
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much is being made of that block. The defender was tripping over his own feet and completely unbalanced. He just shoved him. Good for him, but ...


Exactly. I mentioned the same thing in an early thread.
This has to be the most overblown block in NFL History. LOL
I'm still holding out hope that he comes up big  
rasbutant : 1/19/2023 10:25 am : link
and helps us win.

Even more so than the 1 big play, I'd love to see him come out and have a 10 catch game and dominate someone. Wishful thinking, but I do think he still has it in him. If Jake Ballard can do it, so can Kenny!

(actually don't know if Ballard ever caught 10 passes, but you get the idea.)
I swear I get the vibe  
eli4life : 1/19/2023 10:33 am : link
He’s a good guy but his body is shot and he’s holding on to that paycheck as long as possible
Why does  
noro9 : 1/19/2023 10:49 am : link
He get props for not being a locker room cancer? He obviously can no longer play. Sills has contributed more than him. Is he supposed to be praised for not being a asshole. If he retired earlier in the season, that would be praiseworthy.
Have no idea what's up with that cat  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/19/2023 10:56 am : link
thought he was checked out, but that was a nice block.
i just have a weird feeling  
Justlurking : 1/19/2023 10:59 am : link
that they have a redzone play designed for him for this week. He has basically been a 3rd TE on run plays every time he is in. Set up a run early and then a fade/box out type pass to win the game would be epic
When he was with Detroit he was sensational  
gtt350 : 1/19/2023 11:09 am : link
what the hell happened?
RE: When he was with Detroit he was sensational  
JohnF : 1/19/2023 12:35 pm : link
In comment 16001974 gtt350 said:
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what the hell happened?


Main reason is he had Stafford throwing to him. Stafford was fearless, he also knew KG's strong point at the time (the ability to win 50/50 balls), and was fine with throwing to him even with double coverage, since Kenny was winning those battles. That's not happening now.

Kenny never was a big separation guy, nor a speed demon. As long as he could win those 50/50 balls, he was great.

But, in the NFL, injuries catch up with you. At this point, he can't win those 50/50 battles. He can't depend on beating his man (his route running is bad now, no doubt from his body not responding), and he's no longer sure handed.

Here's a good quote on the type of punishment RB's take. While it's not as bad for WR's, what happens to you in the NFL is just brutal:

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The punishing nature of an NFL hit is not a new invention. A helmet hit from 1930s Hall of Famer Morris “Red” Badgro would lay down quarterbacks with about 4.9 tons of force — twice the impact of a 30 mile-per-hour car crash while wearing a seat belt.

Unsurprisingly, the punishment is even worse with real heavyweights. Former Ravens defensive tackle Haloti Ngata would inflict 8.4 tons of force with a helmet hit. A car crash without a seat belt uses 12 tons of force. It’s incredible that a human can even get close to vehicles on this scale.



Getting Tackled By an NFL Player Feels Like Getting Hit By a Car - ( New Window )
At least he has contributed more than Herman Moore  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 1/19/2023 2:14 pm : link
IMO
Thing thaat scares me about putting him on the field  
US1 Giants : 1/19/2023 2:27 pm : link
is that I read someplace that the Giants cannot cut him after the season if he is injured.

Is that true?
RE: Why does  
middleground : 1/19/2023 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16001934 noro9 said:
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He get props for not being a locker room cancer? He obviously can no longer play. Sills has contributed more than him. Is he supposed to be praised for not being a asshole. If he retired earlier in the season, that would be praiseworthy.


Sills has not contributed more than him you absolute dufus. No offense.
RE: When he was with Detroit he was sensational  
Strahan91 : 1/19/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16001974 gtt350 said:
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what the hell happened?

What’s interesting is that both Golladay and Allen Robinson were at one point the two best go up and get it, contested catch guys in the league and now both of them at age 29 seem cooked after the injuries began to add up.
i still think Golladay can be dangerous in the red zone  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 1/20/2023 10:04 pm : link
He can still out muscle and fight for a ball on a fade throw. That doesn't take leg speed.
RE: At least he has contributed more than Herman Moore  
JoeSchoens11 : 1/20/2023 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16002284 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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IMO
And Brandon Marshall…combined!
What confuses me about Golliday  
Giantimistic : 1/20/2023 10:46 pm : link
Is not so much of the separation in man to man but that he could not be schemed to be open in zone. You just never see him running free when he is on the field.
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