Head Coaching Interviews for Kafka and Wink on Sunday

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Assistant coaches doing interviews during playoffs. Either they will lack adequate attention to interview or lack adequate attention to game. These aren't standard jobs, prep work for interviews are significant.

Other than not allowing interviews until after the SB, I can't think of a fair solution to the problem.

I think we're going to ultimately lose Kafka.

They had one decent year with this staff. How about interviews with the OC and DC of Philadelphia or Dallas or Cincy, etc.

All of these teams have had at least a couple of years of winning (some longer?).

Is it because the NYC marketplace is so huge, international with so much media HQ’ed here?

BEFORE he became the Giants' OC, was that of a shooting star. Catch him if you can. We'll be lucky if we can keep him one more year.

Makes other owners think “those guys” can do the same with my players.

In comment 16001955 5BowlsSoon said:

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Makes other owners think “those guys” can do the same with my players.

I think you're on to something here. If Kafka could re-awaken a down & out Giants offense, just think what he could do for OUR offense!

when Schoen and Daboll put this staff together, they planned for the long term as well as the short term (the way they plan Everything!)
Tierney, the QB coach would probably become the OC, and Drew Wilkins, who is currently the OLB coach, who has been with Wink since 2010, would probably become DC. Wink even recommended him to Schoen (if things didn't work out for him).
As long as Schoen and Daboll are running this ship, things will be taken care of correctly.

In comment 16001965 Dave on the UWS said:

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when Schoen and Daboll put this staff together, they planned for the long term as well as the short term (the way they plan Everything!) Tierney, the QB coach would probably become the OC, and Drew Wilkins, who is currently the OLB coach, who has been with Wink since 2010, would probably become DC. Wink even recommended him to Schoen (if things didn't work out for him). As long as Schoen and Daboll are running this ship, things will be taken care of correctly.

Don't forget Davis Webb. What can't he do?

that a Reid and Daboll disciple can fix?

Have success, other teams will want to copy it/take your people.

The Giants were as bad as any team in the league. This turnaround is nothing short of remarkable. Daniel Jones was going nowhere. Of course other bad teams with questionable QB situations are looking at what Daboll and Kafka did here and thinking, "hmm, maybe Kafka can copy that formula with my crappy team".

Even just to get him in the building to hear his thoughts on what they did/why they were successful is worth the interview.

this week that he was honored to receive the HC interview requests, but he came to the Giants as his destination not a stepping stone?

In comment 16002007 moze1021 said:

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this week that he was honored to receive the HC interview requests, but he came to the Giants as his destination not a stepping stone?

Again, he has repeatedly said throughout this year he wants to be a HC.

In comment 16001965 Dave on the UWS said:

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when Schoen and Daboll put this staff together, they planned for the long term as well as the short term (the way they plan Everything!) Tierney, the QB coach would probably become the OC, and Drew Wilkins, who is currently the OLB coach, who has been with Wink since 2010, would probably become DC. Wink even recommended him to Schoen (if things didn't work out for him). As long as Schoen and Daboll are running this ship, things will be taken care of correctly.

Wink will probably ask to take Drew Wilkins with him to be his D coordinator. Giants would have to decline but Buffalo let Daboll take Shea Tierney with him. It's common place.

Best Bet is probably Kafka getting the Colts job and we keep Wink.

here's hoping we can hold onto both of them for one more year at least

you are handed chicken sh!t and are able to turn it into chicken salad. They've done an awful lot with not that much.

But Joe Schoen built this house, and hopefully he'll be as successful if he has to replace a brick or two. And not to take anything away from any of these guys, but remember they've all been working for Daboll.

The positive is Daboll if he doesn't hire within will cast a wide net. Like he did his first time around. He isn't afraid to hire someone that he has never worked with before. There are going to be some good assistants fired.


Defense worries me most. I don't want to get a bend but don't break D coordinator again. Wink is probably our best D coordinator since little Bill and that's a lot to say since we had Spags and Fox.


The offense is strong since that is Daboll's expertise. Worst case he could always take over play call duties.

I feel the Giants can absorb Kafka loss better than losing Wink.

Hiring an older defensive minded coach is not even the trend any longer....

The perception is teams like the Eagles are stocked with talent, so any average coach could win with them.

The Giants' roster is a train wreck. And it's probably still true. These owners look at the Giants, see their roster is better, and decide those are clearly the coaches they want.

In comment 16002018 David_Upstate said:

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In comment 16001965 Dave on the UWS said: Quote: when Schoen and Daboll put this staff together, they planned for the long term as well as the short term (the way they plan Everything!) Tierney, the QB coach would probably become the OC, and Drew Wilkins, who is currently the OLB coach, who has been with Wink since 2010, would probably become DC. Wink even recommended him to Schoen (if things didn't work out for him). As long as Schoen and Daboll are running this ship, things will be taken care of correctly. Wink will probably ask to take Drew Wilkins with him to be his D coordinator. Giants would have to decline but Buffalo let Daboll take Shea Tierney with him. It's common place. Best Bet is probably Kafka getting the Colts job and we keep Wink.

If they asked for Kafka first, I would have to assume he is the favorite going in. But that can change anytime

But people are really working hard to fool themselves into thinking he wouldn't take an HC job if offered

In comment 16002017 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 16002007 moze1021 said: Quote: this week that he was honored to receive the HC interview requests, but he came to the Giants as his destination not a stepping stone? Again, he has repeatedly said throughout this year he wants to be a HC.

Ahh I took at look at the transcript and see that the clip I watched didn't show the part where he said "I'm going to give you coach speak here" before he made the comments re destination vs stepping stone...

So in other words, he said "well here's my BS politically correct answer".. lol

If I'm Jim Denton, I am not wrapping a Jones agreement until I see if Kafka gets that Carolina job.

In comment 16002055 FStubbs said:

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The perception is teams like the Eagles are stocked with talent, so any average coach could win with them. The Giants' roster is a train wreck. And it's probably still true. These owners look at the Giants, see their roster is better, and decide those are clearly the coaches they want.

Both the Eagles OC and DC have upcoming head coach interviews

and Wink stays. Who knows. Both might well be back. Kafka does not have that much experience and anyone who hires him is taking a pretty big gamble.

In comment 16001941 PhilSimms15 said:

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They had one decent year with this staff. How about interviews with the OC and DC of Philadelphia or Dallas or Cincy, etc. All of these teams have had at least a couple of years of winning (some longer?). Is it because the NYC marketplace is so huge, international with so much media HQ’ed here?

I know Dan Quinn is interviewing for the Broncos job. Heard it on Denver radio yesterday.

Look At where our coaches came from. Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City. And guess what those teams haven't missed a beat.

It certainly would suck to lose either one of them, but they earned the opportunity.

Wink would be a fun head coach.

In comment 16001941 PhilSimms15 said:

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They had one decent year with this staff. How about interviews with the OC and DC of Philadelphia or Dallas or Cincy, etc. All of these teams have had at least a couple of years of winning (some longer?). Is it because the NYC marketplace is so huge, international with so much media HQ’ed here?

No, both the Eagles OC and DC had or have upcoming head coach interviews

I was so pissed when Spags left after 2008. Sean Payton got poached quickly, too. Lots of eyes on the Giants.

In comment 16002128 mittenedman said:

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I was so pissed when Spags left after 2008. Sean Payton got poached quickly, too. Lots of eyes on the Giants.

The Giants actually have a pretty low rate of assistant coaches leave for HC guys. The only two this century have been Fox and Spags, I believe.

Sean Payton was let go by the Giants, and took a step down in Dallas.

gonna be a helluva game, imo, both AFC games actually. Hated to lose Spags but was happy as a clam for him

SP to Parcells. When Parcells wound up getting the job in Dallas Wellington asked Ernie if he had any stipulations about going to a division rival which Ernie told him he didn't. WM agreed to let him go and both WM and EA loved SP.

"Wellington was, man, one of the best," Payton recalled. "The last thing I got when I left there, Wellington gave me a letter with a penny in it to give to Parcells. They had a long history -- Wellington would always put a penny in his locker on game day. Heads up."

Stays because he's offered Winks job

Which I think will happen, what are the chances McCarthy gets canned?

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In comment 16001941 PhilSimms15 said:

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They had one decent year with this staff. How about interviews with the OC and DC of Philadelphia or Dallas or Cincy, etc. All of these teams have had at least a couple of years of winning (some longer?). Is it because the NYC marketplace is so huge, international with so much media HQ’ed here?

It's simple to me. Coaching is about getting the most out of our players. How many Chiefs castoffs need to suck before people look for more than just winning team's coaches? We won 4 games last year. DJ was a bum. We have PS level players at WR. Yet, look at where we are. Kafka has done an excellent job with the talent he has had. That is why he is getting looks.

They are interviews,not job offers (yet). Everyone needs to calm down. I know it is not hard to overreact around here. But people are interviewing Kafka, to see what he is about. Doing due diligence, while they can. They also want to hear from Wink, but I doubt either get a job this year.

In comment 16001923 Hades07 said:

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Assistant coaches doing interviews during playoffs. Either they will lack adequate attention to interview or lack adequate attention to game. These aren't standard jobs, prep work for interviews are significant. Other than not allowing interviews until after the SB, I can't think of a fair solution to the problem.

The only fair way of doing it, is to allow “NO” coaching interviews until after the Super Bowl.

In comment 16002260 Tittle 9 20 64 said:

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In comment 16001923 Hades07 said: Quote: Assistant coaches doing interviews during playoffs. Either they will lack adequate attention to interview or lack adequate attention to game. These aren't standard jobs, prep work for interviews are significant. Other than not allowing interviews until after the SB, I can't think of a fair solution to the problem. The only fair way of doing it, is to allow “NO” coaching interviews until after the Super Bowl.

That wouldn't work. Teams would cheat and come to deals behind the scenes.

A taste of success and not even a complete season (counting the playoffs) and the vultures are out. I would love some continuity for a few years with these guys.

In comment 16002279 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 16002260 Tittle 9 20 64 said: Quote: In comment 16001923 Hades07 said: Quote: Assistant coaches doing interviews during playoffs. Either they will lack adequate attention to interview or lack adequate attention to game. These aren't standard jobs, prep work for interviews are significant. Other than not allowing interviews until after the SB, I can't think of a fair solution to the problem. The only fair way of doing it, is to allow “NO” coaching interviews until after the Super Bowl. That wouldn't work. Teams would cheat and come to deals behind the scenes.

Eric, that stuff goes on anyways.

Remember, if a team that loses a minority personnel executive who becomes a general manager they will receive third-round compensatory picks in each of the next two drafts.

That could be a big reason why Howie Roseman was so pissed when Joe Schoen snagged him.

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Of course. Which is why having such a rule wouldn't work. You made my point.

That losing Wink would hurt more than Kafka. Nothing against Kafka, but our HC was a high level OC + Wink is one of the top guys in the league.

On the same theory, Daboll is always going to rely on a good DC. The good thing is, unless they follow Wink, we have a few guys on staff that would be good candidates. (Wilkins, Henderson, Patterson).

In comment 16002314 Biteymax22 said:

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That losing Wink would hurt more than Kafka. Nothing against Kafka, but our HC was a high level OC + Wink is one of the top guys in the league. On the same theory, Daboll is always going to rely on a good DC. The good thing is, unless they follow Wink, we have a few guys on staff that would be good candidates. (Wilkins, Henderson, Patterson).

Yup, some guys are great position coaches but not really good coordinators. Some good coordinators dont make good coaches. We know that Daboll has now had success at both coordinator and HC. If we lose Kafka its less a risk than losing Wink.

Sure they’re focused on this game, but I have to imagine they’re also focused on interview prep for HC gigs on Sunday, no?

In comment 16002308 Eric from BBI said:

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Of course. Which is why having such a rule wouldn't work. You made my point.

Hmmm 🤔

Given how we’ve been historically generous to the league, I’d just say NO!
Should DJ get ready for his 5th OC in 6 years?

If they win on Saturday, Sunday would be the least active day in terms of game-planning/prep for the next one. They likely won't even know which team they will play the next week until the interview is done.

So they go, do the interview, and then it's business as usual.

In comment 16002629 Joe Beckwith said:

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Given how we’ve been historically generous to the league, I’d just say NO! Should DJ get ready for his 5th OC in 6 years?

You can't say no to a promotion, only lateral move.

In comment 16002695 BH28 said:

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In comment 16002629 Joe Beckwith said: Quote: Given how we’ve been historically generous to the league, I’d just say NO! Should DJ get ready for his 5th OC in 6 years? You can't say no to a promotion, only lateral move.

Thanks.

In comment 16002298 Daniel in Kentucky said:

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Remember, if a team that loses a minority personnel executive who becomes a general manager they will receive third-round compensatory picks in each of the next two drafts. That could be a big reason why Howie Roseman was so pissed when Joe Schoen snagged him.

The Giants would not receive any compensatory picks this year if Brown were to get a GM job. The minority candidate must be with his current organization for a minimum of two years.

I know that is stating the obvious, but there are a lot of teams replacing coordinators this offseason…

In comment 16002708 Joe Beckwith said:

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In comment 16002695 BH28 said: Quote: In comment 16002629 Joe Beckwith said: Quote: Given how we’ve been historically generous to the league, I’d just say NO! Should DJ get ready for his 5th OC in 6 years? You can't say no to a promotion, only lateral move. Thanks.

Also good luck getting a high quality OC or DC if you prevent them from advancing to head coach jobs. The best would only go places where they are allowed to advance their careers

I know young OCs are the hot commodity but I can see an owner, especially a guy like Irsay, falling in love with the guy. Love Daboll's Giants but it will be a lot of fun to see a team made in Winks image.