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GBN Draft Report: 3-Round Mock Draft (01/18/2023)

M.S. : 1/19/2023 10:42 am

Coinciding with GBN's newest 3-Round Mock Draft (link at bottom), which has the Giants tentatively slotted in at #25, our friend Colin has written an accompanying article in light of the Giants moving down at least a few Draft spots in light of their Wild Card win over the Vikings. His remarks can be found on GBN's front page: https://gbnreport.com/

Here is a summary of his thinking:

(1) With the Giants now tentatively slotted in at #25 (actually the 24th pick), they may have lost out on one of the Top 3 CBs and Top 3 WRs in the 2023 Draft;

(2) So, instead of CB or WR in Round One, they go LBer with their selection with the idea that they could still find a very good WR in Round 2 (which is the position Mocked to the Giants at #57.)

(3) HOWEVER, what Colin is suggesting is that maybe after their first-round selection at LBer, Joe Schoen jumps on the phone toot sweet, looking to trade up into the early part of Round Two (or even the end of Round One) to find the next best wide receiver!

It's all speculation of course, but makes for a fun, interesting read.

2023 3-round projection - ( New Window )
If we’re going to trade up for a WR in round 2  
ajr2456 : 1/19/2023 10:51 am : link
Might as well move down to take Tillman or Flowers in this hypothetical.
Andre Carter at 10 is interesting  
KDavies : 1/19/2023 10:53 am : link
Richardson at 7 ahead of Stroud - don't know about that one, though I do remember Sy saying Richardson would go in the top 15, if not top 10
I don't see how Stroud drops to #9  
Rico : 1/19/2023 10:56 am : link
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My guess for this particular mock  
stoneman : 1/19/2023 11:05 am : link
If Addison makes it past 20, I think the Gmen would try to move up for their WR. Wouldn't cost all that much (3rd) to make a small move up.
I'd go with Devon Witherspoon there in the first round  
Anakim : 1/19/2023 11:09 am : link
but I'm more than fine with AT Perry in the second round
I like  
Breeze_94 : 1/19/2023 11:16 am : link
Josh Downs and Zay Flowers a lot. Realize they profile more as “slot” guys, but good receivers are good receivers. Both guys are dynamic with the ball in their hands and have legitimate 4.3 deep speed.

Flowers in particular- He beat press and double teams all year, and his great speed/quickness and route running ability allows him to win on the outside.

Really, my only knocks on him are size (listed 5’10 175) and age (he’ll be a 23 year old rookie). But at 25? I’d love the pick. Reminds me quite a bit of Waddle and even see some Toney (minus the headaches) in how he moves and eludes defenders with the ball in his hands
Weird to see no O line in top 12  
Kevin999 : 1/19/2023 11:23 am : link
That doesnt happen all that often.
Just not buying that ILB scenario  
BillT : 1/19/2023 11:36 am : link
There will be probably be at least 3or 4 players raked nearly equally when they pick. Not one of them is a CB to a WR? Who cares top 3. A good pick matches value and need. Giving away picks is not a good strategy for us as team still in roster building mode.
Not to mention passing on Hyatt  
BillT : 1/19/2023 11:50 am : link
WTH!!! We’re leaving Hyatt to the Cowboys!!! Thats a step beyond remote thrower that’s ‘effing absurd.
if we are taking a LB  
BigBlueDawg56 : 1/19/2023 12:12 pm : link
in that spot then i want trent simpson
I'm with Anak, I think I snatch Witherspoon there  
Andy in Halifax : 1/19/2023 12:29 pm : link
Or one of the receivers.
WR via FA  
AG5686 : 1/19/2023 12:41 pm : link
Makes alot of sense to me...
Ducks
RE: Andre Carter at 10 is interesting  
Dankbeerman : 1/19/2023 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16001939 KDavies said:
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Richardson at 7 ahead of Stroud - don't know about that one, though I do remember Sy saying Richardson would go in the top 15, if not top 10


I see Richardson being a target of Detroit or Seatle if they extend Smith short term. Multiple 1sts and solid QB in place to give him a rookie year without forcing him to play right away.
Give me Hyatt  
Professor Falken : 1/19/2023 12:56 pm : link
I want a home run hitter.
Not only an ILB, but not fast enough to project as 3-down LB  
Bob in Newburgh : 1/19/2023 1:00 pm : link
I am assuming the 4.7 will hold. We already have slow, developmental prospects at ILB.

If Hyatt runs sub 4.4, which I expect, we should run to the podium to select him.
I would not be too happy if the first round  
M.S. : 1/19/2023 1:08 pm : link

Unfolded like this with O'Cyrus Torrence OG Florida going one pick before us. He would be such a great addition who could make our inside run game lethal.
I want to keep building the defense  
Sean : 1/19/2023 1:12 pm : link
I’d love a shut down corner which I think is so crucial in Wink’s scheme. Need to be able to stop Dallas & Philly going forward and match their speed.
If the player is strictly an ILB,  
robbieballs2003 : 1/19/2023 1:30 pm : link
I don't see it because of positional value. With that said, if it is a player like Parsons that can playin in the middle and rush from all over, now we are talking about great value.
RE: WR via FA  
BillT : 1/19/2023 1:32 pm : link
In comment 16002136 AG5686 said:
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Makes alot of sense to me...
Ducks

We aren’t getting a #1 WR as a FA. Far too expensive. Maybe a #2/3 type but it will still be a bit pricey. I’ve been touting JuJu but don’t what he will cost.
WR via FA  
AG5686 : 1/19/2023 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16002203 BillT said:
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In comment 16002136 AG5686 said:


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Makes alot of sense to me...
Ducks


We aren’t getting a #1 WR as a FA. Far too expensive. Maybe a #2/3 type but it will still be a bit pricey. I’ve been touting JuJu but don’t what he will cost.

Risk reward is correct-the right guy makes us a 12 or 13 win team right away...
I like my 1st 3 rounds...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/19/2023 2:03 pm : link
NYG
25.

Clark Phillips III
CB Utah
NYG
57.

Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
NYG
89.

Jack Campbell
LB Iowa
NYG
100.

Mazi Smith
DT Michigan
NYG
126.

RE: I like my 1st 3 rounds...  
M.S. : 1/19/2023 2:05 pm : link
In comment 16002261 Brown_Hornet said:
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NYG
25.

Clark Phillips III
CB Utah
NYG
57.

Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
NYG
89.

Jack Campbell
LB Iowa
NYG
100.

Mazi Smith
DT Michigan
NYG
126.

Captain Jack at 100? I would love to see that!
C.J. Stroud  
jeff57 : 1/19/2023 2:17 pm : link
Fourth QB taken? Okay then
draft vs draft  
Colin@gbn : 1/19/2023 3:00 pm : link
As usual thanks for the plug MS. Always appreciated.

Just a couple of comments. Several people mentioned Stroud and what we are hearing is that teams like his pure arm strength but he's not athletic, is somewhat robotic and isn't necessarily all that precise with his accuracy. Time will tell.

In terms of the Giants, it is a little frustrating because there are so many possible perms and combs for their picks. In this mock we kind of asked what would the Giants second day options look like if they surprised and took a defensive player in the opening round which woul not be totally out of the question, although it would almost assuredly have to be a guy with a special set of skills as opposed to someone just to add to the rotation.

However, we still think that the Giants absolute #1 priority going into the off season will be to find a fast, explosive playmaker at WR and it really just is hard to see them passing on a player like Hyatt (or maybe Rice who as we noted in our write up is very intriguing; indeed right now he is the #1 guy we are looking forward to seeing at the Senior Bowl.)

And after a night of (sadly) sober reflecting we are thinking that if that would indeed be the Giants thinking then maybe they get the best WR they can in round one (and I certainly wouldn't rule out a trade up if a Addison or Njigba-Smith came into range) and then consider trading up for a defender like USC DE/DT Tuipulotu in the second. Again just musing cause we got time.

In the meantime, good luck to us on Saturday!!
Dontaayvion Wicks high in the second round?  
bw in dc : 1/19/2023 3:34 pm : link
That's interesting. Big target who was really good in 2021, but that offense, especially Armstrong, fell part in 2022.

I think Stroud erased a lot of doubt in the semis against Georgia that he has the mobility and athleticism to work at the next level. And he has a great, quick release. I don't see him slipping past #7.

And Richardson going #7 is really aggressive. There is a Malik Willis odor to him, although he is bigger and a better stroke. He could be a first, second, or a third rounder.

Andre Carter fell off a cliff in 2022. I don't see a top ten pick...

Gibbs down to the fourth best RB prospect?? Interesting.

Sy wrote the other day that Zay Flowers could fit what NYG looks for in a WR - ability to play multiple WR spots.

I'd be fine with either Vol WR at #25 - Hyatt or Wilson.
RE: I like my 1st 3 rounds...  
BillT : 1/19/2023 3:35 pm : link
In comment 16002261 Brown_Hornet said:
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NYG
25.

Clark Phillips III
CB Utah
NYG
57.

Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
NYG
89.

Jack Campbell
LB Iowa
NYG
100.

Mazi Smith
DT Michigan
NYG
126.

Great draft if you can get 1st rounders in the 2nd and 2nd rounders in the 3rd.
What kind of package can Indy offer  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/19/2023 7:36 pm : link
to jump from 4 to 1?
id be pretty surprised if they pass on hyatt in that scenario  
Eric on Li : 1/19/2023 7:41 pm : link
and man if Siaka Ika fell to the 2nd and they could grab another 350+ pounder for the middle of the defense behind Lawrence, that would be an awesome first 2 rounds. his biggest knock is endurance but with dex and williams that's not a concern.
Drew Sanders  
Rave7 : 1/19/2023 9:06 pm : link
is a great player and he will be good addition to Wink's defense.
He can rush the passer and cover and tackle, he's do it all LB.
Per Dane Brugler draft analyst, who has close ties to NFL, NFL teams love Drew Sanders, that's why he is keep mocking him in the 1st rd.
When we pick later of 1st rd, most likely good CB and WR may be gone and I don't want Schoen to reach bc of positions. We need good player and Drew Sanders is a good player just happens to play LB.
RE: id be pretty surprised if they pass on hyatt in that scenario  
AG5686 : 1/19/2023 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16002845 Eric on Li said:
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and man if Siaka Ika fell to the 2nd and they could grab another 350+ pounder for the middle of the defense behind Lawrence, that would be an awesome first 2 rounds. his biggest knock is endurance but with dex and williams that's not a concern.

Leo may be a salary cap casualty so a DL could make sense in Rd 2
Watched  
Professor Falken : 1/19/2023 9:23 pm : link
Hyatt's highlights again. Would not be surprised if he runs a 4.3 forty. I think he's going to move up.
RE: RE: id be pretty surprised if they pass on hyatt in that scenario  
Angel Eyes : 1/19/2023 9:33 pm : link
In comment 16002909 AG5686 said:
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In comment 16002845 Eric on Li said:


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and man if Siaka Ika fell to the 2nd and they could grab another 350+ pounder for the middle of the defense behind Lawrence, that would be an awesome first 2 rounds. his biggest knock is endurance but with dex and williams that's not a concern.


Leo may be a salary cap casualty so a DL could make sense in Rd 2

Ika's a NT like Lawrence. We'd need a 3-tech if we cut Williams instead unless Lawrence goes back to playing DE.
RE: RE: id be pretty surprised if they pass on hyatt in that scenario  
BillT : 1/20/2023 12:03 am : link
In comment 16002909 AG5686 said:
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In comment 16002845 Eric on Li said:


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and man if Siaka Ika fell to the 2nd and they could grab another 350+ pounder for the middle of the defense behind Lawrence, that would be an awesome first 2 rounds. his biggest knock is endurance but with dex and williams that's not a concern.


Leo may be a salary cap casualty so a DL could make sense in Rd 2

Leo will not be a salary cap casualty. They have room to keep him without an extension and an extension is almost a certainty.
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