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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2023 11:09 pm
It was a good run.

Giants have a lot of catching up to do.
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Route 9 : 1/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
Let the offseason talk begin!
There was a game?  
Kanavis : 1/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
Not sure what there is to discuss. That wasn't a game.
Fugly  
noro9 : 1/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
.
No. 55...  
Gary JC : 1/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
...can find his own way home.
 
IchabodGiant : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
Beat down
Not much to say  
Anakim : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
Daboll had a horrible coaching game
Shane Steichen absolutely spanked Wink
DJ was awful
Our pass-rushers didn't even touch Jalen Hurts



I mean it was just awful all-around. We have a lot of work to do.
Agreed  
shocktheworld : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
This hurt, but what a fun season….plus, now we have hope!!!

We will be better next year!!
RE: No. 55...  
kcgiants : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16006518 Gary JC said:
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...can find his own way home.

#44 can keep him company
Well that went well  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
Burn the tape.
RE: There was a game?  
LittleBlue : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16006512 Kanavis said:
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Not sure what there is to discuss. That wasn't a game.


This is really true.

I don’t even know what to critique because the game itself felt like it never started for the giants.
But…  
IchabodGiant : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
What a great season! Far exceeded expectations. Onward and upward
It was a good run  
mittenedman : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
but that was the worst possible performance tonight. I can’t believe they fell down 28-0 by halftime after playing them twice already.

At some point, someone needs to learn something about the Eagles. We look like we have no idea how to play them.
Fun season.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/21/2023 11:11 pm : link

Keep rebuilding. Looking forward to the draft.

Go Niners. Then go AFC
An ugly loss to end the year  
Tony in Tampa : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
Folks shouldn’t forget how far this team has come this season
RE: No. 55...  
Anakim : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16006518 Gary JC said:
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...can find his own way home.


Well, Jihad Ward did grow up an Eagles fan...
Obviously the problem was not enough "Jones Is Awesome" threads on BBI  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
I blame all of you
Wish  
AcidTest : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
we were more competitive, but it was a great year. But we need a great offseason since Philly has three first round draft picks IIRC. Yikes.
It was a fun  
darren in pdx : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
run this year. This offseason is about bolstering the roster to compete with the likes of the Cowboys and Eagles. The Eagles o-line and d-line has dominated the Giants for years.
Ending on a positive note  
MauiYankee : 1/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
First, important players returned from injury.
Second, those players prevented the Eagles from scoring 40 points.
A surprising year. Reasons to be optimistic.
Eagles are scary good all over, and deep  
lawguy9801 : 1/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
Hard to get too angry when the Giants lost to a clearly better team.

But remember that two years ago, the Eagles were nowhere near this good.

Giants’ arrow is pointing up. Excited about the coming years.
RE: It was a good run  
GiantGrit : 1/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
In comment 16006531 mittenedman said:
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but that was the worst possible performance tonight. I can’t believe they fell down 28-0 by halftime after playing them twice already.

At some point, someone needs to learn something about the Eagles. We look like we have no idea how to play them.


They always beat the shit out of us at the LOS. Until we get better upfront nothing will change.
It was a fun year  
Devour the Day : 1/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
A lot to be proud of. Unfortunately it ended the way it did but it showed the need for upgraded talent.
Ok Joe Schoen the ball is in your hands.
Great year  
OBJ_AllDay : 1/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
No complaints… future is bright
How many Giants would start  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
on either side of the ball for Philly? 2? 3?
7-2  
bluepepper : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
and then only won 2 of our last 8 or 3 of our last 9 if you include playoffs.

Was kind of strange seeing people act like we were on some kind of roll.
The easy thing to do  
mittenedman : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
is dismiss it as a talent difference but we were supposed to have these great coaches. The Eagles shouldn’t be 28-0 at the half better than us.

Terrible no show, the Eagles wanted it more and it showed.
I dont mind loosing if you are clearly out matched  
Chef : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
But not like that to that fucking team...
Essentially the same roster that won 4 games last year  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
Improved 5.5 games. I am excited for next year when we have another draft and more cap space with this regime. Expectations are high but the future is bright.
Our Run Defense  
Giantimistic : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
really hurt us this year. The defense will take a big jump if we can improve in that area.
Opening TD didn’t bother me  
LittleBlue : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
When we had third and short in eagles territory on the next drive and Neal gave up a ludicrously easy sack to end that drive… after that it felt like we were chasing our tails.
This team needs some improvement at the linebacker level  
JoeFootball : 1/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
That includes OLB zero pressure and poor contain as a whole. Kayvon will improve but talent needs to be added going forward.
Hopefully  
Sammo85 : 1/21/2023 11:15 pm : link
Schoen gets the roster better over next two offseasons and keeps eye out for a true franchise QB in next couple years coming out of college.

RE: This team needs some improvement at the linebacker level  
mvftw : 1/21/2023 11:15 pm : link
In comment 16006577 JoeFootball said:
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That includes OLB zero pressure and poor contain as a whole. Kayvon will improve but talent needs to be added going forward.


For a Very Long Time Now...
Well  
Andrew in Austin : 1/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
Great Year that exceeded expectations:.

Eagles showed what the state of the art looks like. We were physically dominated from the get go.

Willl be fun to watch us improve.
team came out flat  
fkap : 1/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
and just got flatter.

Opposing RB runs into a bunch of white and pushed the pile. Our RB runs into a defender and goes down.

DJ was dreadful. He had a lot of company.

Everyone keeps saying talent disparity, but a couple weeks ago the backups put up a better showing.

It was iffy that we would keep it close, let alone win, but the Giants came out looking to lose.
I think there will be some things  
81_Great_Dane : 1/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
on the tape that the players and coaches won’t like. I think the Eagles wanted it more. The Giants thought they were prepared for this game but they were not. This is a good step for them but it’s learning from failure.
I had to turn it off in the 2nd  
JFIB : 1/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
To save myself the heartache. Long way to go.
Best NY Football season in over a decade  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 1/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
I'll take it
Do we get to keep  
BobOnLI : 1/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
Our coaches after this?
RE: This team needs some improvement at the linebacker level  
GiantGrit : 1/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
In comment 16006577 JoeFootball said:
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That includes OLB zero pressure and poor contain as a whole. Kayvon will improve but talent needs to be added going forward.


Ojulari and Thibs both strike me as really good secondary pieces, not "the" guy. Ojulari to be fair was banged up all year...but that makes him another question mark going into next year.
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Micko : 1/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
At least we had the whole second half to get over the loss.
 
christian : 1/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
This feels a lot like the 2005 loss to Carolina.

Giants need to bank two more good draft classes, and they’ll be in business.
The Eagles coach is perfect for Philly  
moespree : 1/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
Arrogant scumbag POS who thinks he's more important than he is. No wonder those fans say "he's one of us".
Jones missed some chances  
Ike#88 : 1/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
We had to have great QB play to be competitive today but I did not see a complete no show by the defense. Especially the front 7. Just brutal beatdown for those groups. Has to be upgraded as we were 0-4 vs Philly and Dallas regular season. Can't continue to be whipping boys in our own division. Lots of roster changes coming.
Did Dabes shake Sirianni's hand at the end of the game?  
Optimus-NY : 1/21/2023 11:20 pm : link
Was wondering cuz I saw him meet up with Hurts, who he's obviously got some positive history with in college, but not sure if he just walked off after that with the new Mike Murphy replacement security guy.
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Optimus-NY : 1/21/2023 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16006606 christian said:
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This feels a lot like the 2005 loss to Carolina.

Giants need to bank two more good draft classes, and they’ll be in business.


Yes. Very fair assessment.
RE: 7-2  
PatersonPlank : 1/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16006566 bluepepper said:
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and then only won 2 of our last 8 or 3 of our last 9 if you include playoffs.

Was kind of strange seeing people act like we were on some kind of roll.


Quoting raw stats like this with no context is wrong. We played the easier part of our schedule early. The final 9 games included 3 vs Philly, 2 vs Minny, 2 vs Wash, and 1 vs Dallas. Those teams had a combined record of 47-20, or 70% winning %. Of course our record would be worse.

In the end we won 9 games and won a road playoff game. Quite an achievement from where we were, and a great building block year.
It was a surprisingly fun season  
Rick in Dallas : 1/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
We found a good HC and staff.
For us to compete in the NFC East against the Eagles and Cowboys we need to be competitive at the LOS. We are not unfortunately.
We cannot ignore that fact going into free agency and the draft.
Schoen and Daboll have seen that for sure.
This completes year 10  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
of having insufficient fronts that Reese started and Dave continued. We have a few to build with. Schoen needs to add more.

Play the perimeter game you might have some nice regular season seasons and get in the playoffs until beaten by a team who has those fronts. Tonight shows the need for one upper tier QR and two good ones alongside.

Good effort by the staff and players this year. Short week didn't help.

Now its Schoen's time to fix it. He can call his mentor Parcells if he needs any help. Welcome to NFCE football. Physical teams is what wins here. Its never changed.
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HomerJones45 : 1/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
In comment 16006620 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16006606 christian said:


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This feels a lot like the 2005 loss to Carolina.

Giants need to bank two more good draft classes, and they’ll be in business.



Yes. Very fair assessment.
McAdoos first season. Lots of things fell just right and papered over some bad flaws?
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