the Eagle defense is for some reason very underrated by fans (not just Giants fans).
They had like 70 sacks on the year..I’d guess 20% of that number came from the 2 games against the giants. The one thing we do consistently against the Eagles is prove we can’t block them.
Those 2016-2017 teams were bought not homegrown and we're extremely unlikeable as a fan. This team was well coached and very easy to get behind. Snacks, Jenkins, Vernon, Apple, DRC, Flowers etc. just rubbed me the wrong way
THIS.
And to expand on that I even questioned being a fan of the team because the players and the coach made it bad to be a fan.
And tackling. I know, simple…but it really is a simple game sometimes.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
The Eagles were an astonishing 10-of-14 on third down.
Meanwhile, the Giants only had three first downs in the first half and only 13 for the game (those other 10 were virtually meaningless because the game was decided by then).
The first two NYG drives ended with turnovers (one on downs and one by a pick).
268 yards rushing allowed? Holy crap.
Eagles were simply the better team. This happens a lot in the playoffs. Fans (including me) get worked up in the Wild Card round when their team wins, but then get bitch slapped back to reality by the #1 or #2 seed in the divisional round.
Isn’t significant enough to warrant that type of beat down.
This team was feeling too good about themselves, they were not ready to play.
Probably the worse coaching job of the season pre game and during game.
I always find it alarming how willing Giants fans are to believe that their own team let them down, rather than give a 13 win team credit for being excellent.
Let down? What the hell. This isn’t about me being let down. It s me making an observation about a team that got gashed on basic running plays from beginning to end,….. the Eagles might be more talented, but they played harder today
Jonathan C on post game just stated,” Eagles played with more heart”
Guess I m in pretty good company
Saying things like 'felt too good about themselves' or 'weren't ready to play' those are things angry customers say like clockwork. The Giants played a best of three with Philadelphia and got spanked loudly twice, but we'd rather believe the talent gap isn't so bad, they were simply un-interested or un-prepared.
If that team didn't have an eagle on the helmet you'd be more willing to give them credit for being damn good. We are not recognizing how difficult it is to win 13 games in the NFL because it's Philadelphia.
And tackling. I know, simple…but it really is a simple game sometimes.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
Well said. Giants carved up at the LOS. Both sides. All night long. Very difficult to watch.
And tackling. I know, simple…but it really is a simple game sometimes.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
Well said. Giants carved up at the LOS. Both sides. All night long. Very difficult to watch.
NYG have been getting carved up along both sides of the LOS consistently vs this team since 2011. It’s well past the point of ridiculous now.
The Eagles were an astonishing 10-of-14 on third down.
Meanwhile, the Giants only had three first downs in the first half and only 13 for the game (those other 10 were virtually meaningless because the game was decided by then).
The first two NYG drives ended with turnovers (one on downs and one by a pick).
268 yards rushing allowed? Holy crap.
Eagles were simply the better team. This happens a lot in the playoffs. Fans (including me) get worked up in the Wild Card round when their team wins, but then get bitch slapped back to reality by the #1 or #2 seed in the divisional round.
Past 10 years the #1 seed beat the # 6 seed 11 out of 13 times in the divisional playoffs. Add this beat down to the record.
just didn't play well tonight to me, but obviously knew the cinderella ride may end sooner than later. really didn't see a talent gap, but an execution gap. the msg post-game show just mentioned on the int, that saquon was in the flat vs a DE - oh well :-). perhaps we burnt out after last week? just a very, very flat game. really hard to know what to do in the offseason with a talented rb who's perhaps lost a step, and is not a big rushes guy? and a qb we didn't ask to do a lot, and sometimes perhaps doesn't look great vs adversity? plus obviously we need upgrades on d and o - since we have to have big play capability since you cannot grind out 10-15 play drives all the time :-). will be an interesting post-season.
Giving respect to the Giants. I think we're heading in the right direction of eagle fans think highly of the Giants
What respect? Certainly not for tonight’s horrific performance.
They have respect because they can see where this team is heading and the people running the show know what they are doing. You've spent an entire year looking for every negative and when an opposing team's fans can see what Daboll and Schoen are building and how they've gotten the players a team to overachiever you complain. They respect the entire season and are worried about the future
I tried talking myself into saying well this will just be like the Vikings game. The truth is, after the glow of the wildcard game wore off I began doubting this game more and more. By kickoff I wasn't even excited and was hoping the team would kick me out of the funk... and then it got worse.
The only hope I could draw by yesterday was maybe Hurts won't be 100%. They had the better defense going into this, they had the better offense going into this. I didn't think we'd suffer an all time ass kicking, but here we are....
They simply aren’t good enough and at some point, it’s about the Jimmies and Joes, not the X’s and O’s. Eagles are one of the 2 or 3 most talented teams in the NFL. The Giants aren’t even remotely close to that.
Getting manhandled on both lines was demoralizing.
The ONLY two players who I thought played well were Richie James and Breida. That’s it. Saquon was okay and everyone else just sucked.
That could’ve possibly been Jones and Barkley’s final game in Blue. Let’s hope it Darius Slayton’s. He was a trainwreck tonight.
is correct as I just posted on another thread. In the two games that mattered to the Giants against the Eagles, we got spanked. It wasn't close. It wasn't a play here or there.
I said in my preview if we played this team 10 times, we'd probably lose 9 of them. Someone called me out on that, but I stand by that statement.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Sure it does. The Eagles are vastly superior and have a great chance to beat the crap out of the AFC team in the Super Bowl.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Eagles always beat us in the trenches
Our offensive line still stinks and our front seven cannot stop the run.
Until that is fixed we aren't going to win a champion ship.
This and our 40m/yr QB gets the shakes every time he see's a bird or a cowboy.
Lol. Jones is a stud. He’s on a Houston Texans team that has a good coach. Just wait till he has the horses… I swear this has to be the only fan base who has never appreciated their qb… even one that brought 2 rings to the table
There is a serious fentanyl problem in this country. You are exhibit 1.
That is a disgusting response, what the hell is wrong with you! Are you 15 years old?
Thanks man but don’t bother ppl dug their heels in on the qb long ago…. 15 years old was probably right…
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Why? The only argument I can see for waving off the talent disparity is not wanting to give the opponent some credit.
The Giants were 0-3 against the Eagles and 1-4-1 in the NFC East during the regular season. They are a roster with a lot of work to do.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Sure it does. The Eagles are vastly superior and have a great chance to beat the crap out of the AFC team in the Super Bowl.
Oh, well. This is the kind of game that will keep me up all night! And not in a good way!
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
Just look at the facts. Philly is top-3 on BOTH offense and defense. Their QB was headed to league MVP before he got hurt. As you are so fond of pointing out all of the time, trenches matter. And no team in the NFL is better on both sides of the ball. They have two studs at WR and two CBs who can cover.
Ending up out of bounds on the 2nd and 1. He had a great stretch at the end of the year, but next year we need to see a step up against quality opponents.
Just look at the facts. Philly is top-3 on BOTH offense and defense. Their QB was headed to league MVP before he got hurt. As you are so fond of pointing out all of the time, trenches matter. And no team in the NFL is better on both sides of the ball. They have two studs at WR and two CBs who can cover.
They are loaded. And they have depth.
I hear ya! They are loaded, indeed! And tonight they unloaded on our Giants.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
Ending up out of bounds on the 2nd and 1. He had a great stretch at the end of the year, but next year we need to see a step up against quality opponents.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
Interesting observations!
We were an upstart. If we would have won it would have been a massive upset.
Ending up out of bounds on the 2nd and 1. He had a great stretch at the end of the year, but next year we need to see a step up against quality opponents.
Ending up out of bounds on the 2nd and 1. He had a great stretch at the end of the year, but next year we need to see a step up against quality opponents.
He’s not going to “step up” with this same offensive line and these same receivers. If they don’t plan on getting better in those spots, might as well let him walk.
They had like 70 sacks on the year..I’d guess 20% of that number came from the 2 games against the giants. The one thing we do consistently against the Eagles is prove we can’t block them.
Was hoping the Giants would play well and play their hearts out as an exclamation on a surprisingly good season.
Instead they went out with barely a whimper. It made for quite difficult viewing that leaves a real bad taste in the mouth.
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Those 2016-2017 teams were bought not homegrown and we're extremely unlikeable as a fan. This team was well coached and very easy to get behind. Snacks, Jenkins, Vernon, Apple, DRC, Flowers etc. just rubbed me the wrong way
THIS.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
What respect? Certainly not for tonight’s horrific performance.
The Eagles were an astonishing 10-of-14 on third down.
Meanwhile, the Giants only had three first downs in the first half and only 13 for the game (those other 10 were virtually meaningless because the game was decided by then).
The first two NYG drives ended with turnovers (one on downs and one by a pick).
268 yards rushing allowed? Holy crap.
Eagles were simply the better team. This happens a lot in the playoffs. Fans (including me) get worked up in the Wild Card round when their team wins, but then get bitch slapped back to reality by the #1 or #2 seed in the divisional round.
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Isn’t significant enough to warrant that type of beat down.
This team was feeling too good about themselves, they were not ready to play.
Probably the worse coaching job of the season pre game and during game.
I always find it alarming how willing Giants fans are to believe that their own team let them down, rather than give a 13 win team credit for being excellent.
Let down? What the hell. This isn’t about me being let down. It s me making an observation about a team that got gashed on basic running plays from beginning to end,….. the Eagles might be more talented, but they played harder today
Jonathan C on post game just stated,” Eagles played with more heart”
Guess I m in pretty good company
Saying things like 'felt too good about themselves' or 'weren't ready to play' those are things angry customers say like clockwork. The Giants played a best of three with Philadelphia and got spanked loudly twice, but we'd rather believe the talent gap isn't so bad, they were simply un-interested or un-prepared.
If that team didn't have an eagle on the helmet you'd be more willing to give them credit for being damn good. We are not recognizing how difficult it is to win 13 games in the NFL because it's Philadelphia.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
Well said. Giants carved up at the LOS. Both sides. All night long. Very difficult to watch.
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And tackling. I know, simple…but it really is a simple game sometimes.
Watching phillys offense- hat on a hat on running plays. OL getting push and making blocks at second level, WR’s and TE’s, blocking on runs and screens, Giants pass rush non existent.
Meanwhile, Giants couldn’t block anything.
Tackling wise- every play the Philly ball carrier would gain 2,3 yards more than they should have. Sometimes even more. They had more fight, and the Giants defense did an awful job tackling. Meanwhile Giants we’re stopped immediately after every catch and didn’t earn any extra yards.
Well said. Giants carved up at the LOS. Both sides. All night long. Very difficult to watch.
NYG have been getting carved up along both sides of the LOS consistently vs this team since 2011. It’s well past the point of ridiculous now.
The Eagles were an astonishing 10-of-14 on third down.
Meanwhile, the Giants only had three first downs in the first half and only 13 for the game (those other 10 were virtually meaningless because the game was decided by then).
The first two NYG drives ended with turnovers (one on downs and one by a pick).
268 yards rushing allowed? Holy crap.
Eagles were simply the better team. This happens a lot in the playoffs. Fans (including me) get worked up in the Wild Card round when their team wins, but then get bitch slapped back to reality by the #1 or #2 seed in the divisional round.
Past 10 years the #1 seed beat the # 6 seed 11 out of 13 times in the divisional playoffs. Add this beat down to the record.
Exactly. Precisely. The surge was all the Eagles. The Giants where just so much debris floating in the backwash.
Casillas making some good points about the 4th and 8 call.
WFAN Postgame Radio Show - Lance Meadow and Jonathan Casillas - ( New Window )
best comment in here.
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At least we had the whole second half to get over the loss.
best comment in here.
Priceless!
“You WANT ‘EM, you can HAVE ‘EM!”
We can get better.
That was me unless someone else said it as well.
Totally irrelevant at this point I recognize, but thought it was interesting just given conversations we've had here throughout the year.
Totally irrelevant at this point I recognize, but thought it was interesting just given conversations we've had here throughout the year.
Yep.
I assumed it was Thibodaux
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Giving respect to the Giants. I think we're heading in the right direction of eagle fans think highly of the Giants
What respect? Certainly not for tonight’s horrific performance.
They have respect because they can see where this team is heading and the people running the show know what they are doing. You've spent an entire year looking for every negative and when an opposing team's fans can see what Daboll and Schoen are building and how they've gotten the players a team to overachiever you complain. They respect the entire season and are worried about the future
You go back to finding things to complain about
The only hope I could draw by yesterday was maybe Hurts won't be 100%. They had the better defense going into this, they had the better offense going into this. I didn't think we'd suffer an all time ass kicking, but here we are....
FA starts in March?
Getting manhandled on both lines was demoralizing.
The ONLY two players who I thought played well were Richie James and Breida. That’s it. Saquon was okay and everyone else just sucked.
That could’ve possibly been Jones and Barkley’s final game in Blue. Let’s hope it Darius Slayton’s. He was a trainwreck tonight.
I said in my preview if we played this team 10 times, we'd probably lose 9 of them. Someone called me out on that, but I stand by that statement.
I wouldn't say that based on a rookie season.
Does not necessarily explain the vicious beat down tonight.
Football is also a game of emotion, energy and willpower and the Giants lost all three in the first half.
It wasn't a miracle. We out-played and out-coached the Vikings.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
… the beat down we all watched.
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Sure it does. The Eagles are vastly superior and have a great chance to beat the crap out of the AFC team in the Super Bowl.
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Our offensive line still stinks and our front seven cannot stop the run.
Until that is fixed we aren't going to win a champion ship.
This and our 40m/yr QB gets the shakes every time he see's a bird or a cowboy.
Lol. Jones is a stud. He’s on a Houston Texans team that has a good coach. Just wait till he has the horses… I swear this has to be the only fan base who has never appreciated their qb… even one that brought 2 rings to the table
There is a serious fentanyl problem in this country. You are exhibit 1.
That is a disgusting response, what the hell is wrong with you! Are you 15 years old?
Thanks man but don’t bother ppl dug their heels in on the qb long ago…. 15 years old was probably right…
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Why? The only argument I can see for waving off the talent disparity is not wanting to give the opponent some credit.
The Giants were 0-3 against the Eagles and 1-4-1 in the NFC East during the regular season. They are a roster with a lot of work to do.
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But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
Sure it does. The Eagles are vastly superior and have a great chance to beat the crap out of the AFC team in the Super Bowl.
Oh, well. This is the kind of game that will keep me up all night! And not in a good way!
But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
They are loaded. And they have depth.
They are loaded. And they have depth.
I hear ya! They are loaded, indeed! And tonight they unloaded on our Giants.
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But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
Interesting observations!
...and more than 1.3 TDs a game.
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But I for one am stunned at the utter collapse of the Giants tonight. I’ve read countless posts about how much more talent the Eagles have. But that talent gap alone can not fully explain the best down we all watched.
There’s a range of outcomes that can happen, this one happened to be on the aggressive side of the talent gap. Big talent gap though. Once things got away from us early, and it didn’t take much because of the gap, things snowballed. There are scenarios where this is closer but it’s not 100% correlated with coaching. I actually think certain closer games are indicative of poor coaching, ie the Joe Judge style.
Interesting observations!
We were an upstart. If we would have won it would have been a massive upset.
That was bad. He could easily have thrown it way
He’s not going to “step up” with this same offensive line and these same receivers. If they don’t plan on getting better in those spots, might as well let him walk.
There's always next year?