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How are the Eagles able to procure the best

I Love Clams Casino : 1/22/2023 11:04 am
at basically every position?

That team is head and shoulders above the Giants at every level.

How is it that they have 2 first round draft picks? How is it that they were able to convince the Dallas Cowboys to trade with them for Devonta Smith?

How is it that all of these players are not at the top of their pay scale?

Does Howie Roseman have pictures or something?? Why is it 30 teams passed on Bradberry, but the Eagles found a way?

I personally don’t have these answers but in my irrational state this morning, it makes me wonder if the Eagles are actually playing by all the rules. Remember what the 49’ers did back in the day.

It all just seems so serendipitous to me.
Howie Roseman is likely to be named  
Dave on the UWS : 1/22/2023 11:07 am : link
Personnel guy of the year or whatever that award is and sadly, deservedly so. Their team is set up for dominance going forward. We have to take care of our own business for now.
It's truly maddening.....  
Jacobs #27 : 1/22/2023 11:08 am : link
Eagles somehow get teams to just hand them great players for virtually nothing. Including us (Bradburry)!
Because  
Jay on the Island : 1/22/2023 11:08 am : link
Jalen Hurts is on a rookie 2nd round contract. Once they give him a massive extension they will lose a lot of talent. Also they have several key players who’s contract expires this offseason:
Eagles free agents

Robert Quinn
Fletcher Cox
James Bradberry
Javon Hargrave
Jason Kelce
Miles Sanders
Isaac Seumalo
TJ Edwards
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
Kyzir White
Andre Dillard
Gardner-Johnson  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/22/2023 11:10 am : link
Is a guy I would target rather than re sign Love
I said years ago that it wad a huge loss for us  
j_rud : 1/22/2023 11:19 am : link
When Roseman prevailed in his internal war with Chip Kelly. It was a miraculous comeback. He was essentially demoted, stripped of any decision making. Then Kelly imploded and Roseman was out of the dog house. First thing he did was trade all of Kelly's guys, which was the start of his seemingly endless string of winning trades.

They've been good for most of the last 20 years but in the last 6 or 7 they've won with different QBs and coaches while building consistently top tier lines. I don't know that it's so much of a "recipe" as it is just having a great front office.
It is called years of strong drafting  
Giantimistic : 1/22/2023 11:23 am : link
.
Hope Hurts is looking for  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 1/22/2023 11:32 am : link
a 50 million extension!
Amazing draft trades and fleecing other GMs  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/22/2023 11:35 am : link
They fleeced the Colts for Wentz, got a 2022 1st rounder and 2021 3rd rounder

In 2021 they switched picks with Miami (moved down from 6 to 12) and got a Miami's 2022 1st rounder.

They had three first rounders in 2022, and were able to trade for AJ Brown for only a 1st and 3rd. Total fleecing of Tennessee's GM.

Then they fleeced the Saints because the saints wanted to move to draft Trevor Penning. The Eagles got the Saints 2023 1st and 3rd round picks, 2024 2nd rounder.

Three drafts in a row with multiple 1st rounders.

And they often use premium picks on the trenches.
They draft poorly…  
Chris in Philly : 1/22/2023 11:49 am : link
but then make trades where they basically win every single time. I do understand why teams keep bending over for them.
I do *not*…  
Chris in Philly : 1/22/2023 11:50 am : link
understand. Obv.
I’m not sold on Love….  
morrison40 : 1/22/2023 11:51 am : link
Getting a big contract
and they keep their best players  
bc4life : 1/22/2023 11:52 am : link
Kelce, Johnson, Cox, Graham. All from that SB team
Wouldn't give Love big contract either  
bc4life : 1/22/2023 11:53 am : link
Need help on both fronts
Amazingly.....the goal is to win Super Bowls.....not win NFC East  
George from PA : 1/22/2023 11:55 am : link
Yes....2 teams in NFC East are also NFC conference contenders....but goal is to win Super Bowls.

So the hurdle is even bigger than the Eagles and Cowboys....

I believe we can win Super Bowls with our coaches.....to be honest, I am not sure if the Cowboys and Eagles can with theirs.

Nothing has changed from player development...

Outside Jones has earned a few more years.


The hard work has y
Just started
They draft poorly?  
HomerJones45 : 1/22/2023 12:17 pm : link
you have got to be kidding. They draft well and no one has a rookie scholarship. They moved on from Reagor and Wentz wihtin a couple of years despite both being #1 picks. They have been excellent in the second round- Goedert, Hurts, Sanders, Dickerson were all 2nd round picks. Gainwell who shredded us last night was a 5th round pick. Their #3 wideout is a 6th rounder, their other starting guard is a 6th rounder and their starting rt is 7th rounder. Blakenship was an UDFA.

Roseman appears to know what he is doing, damn him.
They have a top 10 pick from New Orleans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/22/2023 12:26 pm : link
and got Gardiner-Johnson from them as well.

In order to find a sucker in trades you have to be willing to work the phones and keep your ears open.
I'm thinking Howie  
Enzo : 1/22/2023 12:28 pm : link
would have fielded an offer or two for the #2 pick in 2018 instead of rushing to select to Saquon at #2. Just a hunch.

the good thing is.....  
BillKo : 1/22/2023 12:31 pm : link
...there's a general consensus - and this is in Philly - where next year for them will be duplicate to repeat (for various reasons already mentioned on this thread).

It's also conceivable where we'll improve thus narrowing the gap and being more competitive.

Might not be next year but in a couple years I think we'll be going toe to toe with them.

Right now, they are a HUGE mismatch for us in a game that is based on matchups. The results this year show that.
Something also  
pjcas18 : 1/22/2023 1:14 pm : link
that has to be factored in to success is health.

Eagles are 3rd in fewest games lost to injury.

and of the top 5 they had the smallest impact of those players.

Of their 2022 draft class, all their players played in at least 13 games, and 2021 draft class their 1st - 5th round picks played 33 games or more combined the past two years.

health is often overlooked or confused with talent or other factors with team success.

I don't know how to crack that code, not sure the Eagles do either, they've just been fortunate is my guess.

The Eagles have several marquee players with undersized 2022  
cosmicj : 1/22/2023 1:40 pm : link
Cap hits. Reddick, AJ Brown, Bradberry and Sweat are all structured to provide a lot of cap room this year. Mailata has an absurdly low cap hit in 22 and 23 for a starting LT on a long term contract. Reddick’s cap hit in 22 and 23 are also artificially suppressed, if you want to call it that.

The Eagles have a built-to-win now salary structure. Things will get somewhat more difficult in ‘23 and A LOT more difficult in ‘24.

A defeat next weekend, hopefully at the hands of the 49ers, will be a massive blow to the franchise.

RE: They have a top 10 pick from New Orleans  
JoeSchoens11 : 1/22/2023 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16007783 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and got Gardiner-Johnson from them as well.

In order to find a sucker in trades you have to be willing to work the phones and keep your ears open.
This trade is so indefensible it’s infuriating. NO traded him for a ‘24 5th and a late round swap. He’s going to net Philly at least a 5th round comp pick in ‘24.

NO could’ve made the playoffs if they kept his $2M contract AND get a ‘24 comp pick. Just doesn’t make sense that they couldn’t swing a better deal elsewhere if they were dead set on getting rid of him.
RE: Because  
Ivan15 : 1/22/2023 2:28 pm : link
In comment 16007568 Jay on the Island said:
Quote:
Jalen Hurts is on a rookie 2nd round contract. Once they give him a massive extension they will lose a lot of talent. Also they have several key players who’s contract expires this offseason:
Eagles free agents

Robert Quinn
Fletcher Cox
James Bradberry
Javon Hargrave
Jason Kelce
Miles Sanders
Isaac Seumalo
TJ Edwards
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
Kyzir White
Andre Dillard
. The further they go in the playoffs, the more difficult it will be to re-sign these players. And they only need one more win.
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