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NFT: The Last of Us - S1E2 - *Spoilers Warning*

JoeyBigBlue : 1/22/2023 10:13 pm
Just finished watching Episode 2 and my goodness HBO has hit out of the ballpark in recreating the video game. They have deviated a little from the game but the story and dialogue remains the same. Episode 2 featured our first glimpse of the clickers and they did a really good job bringing them to life. I’m really excited to see this show progress.
Absolutely fantastic  
HMunster : 1/22/2023 10:47 pm : link
My wife, who doesn’t know anything about the game, was on the edge of her seat the entire time.

They really hit a home run here. The sets are gorgeous in their decimated and overrun city style and they’re really making the cordyceps fungus as creepy as anything. I was a little hesitant about Bella Ramsey as Ellie but she’s excellent and really channeling the character. Pedro is doing a great job as Joel as well.

They’re really following the game. At the State House, when Tess has her scene you knew Joel was going to say, “Show me.” I had goosebumps and smiled at the same time. And it still packed an emotional wallop.

Can’t wait for the next episode.
Took me a second but this episode sold me on Ramsey  
j_rud : 1/22/2023 11:19 pm : link
They've done a great job do far. If the clickers look familiar it's because they got the same motion capture artists who portrayed them in the game.
It's going to be massive success  
moespree : 1/22/2023 11:28 pm : link
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The actors playing the clickers  
GiantSteps : 1/22/2023 11:30 pm : link
and I guess whatever else is to come (I never played the game) are Terry Notary and his crew (I follow him on IG...he's the older brother of a friend of mine and I've hung out with him a couple times over the years).

Terry Notary is a movement coach and has done a TON of work in major film and tv franchises. He worked on the Planet of the Apes films, The Square, the pre-MCU Hulk films, the Hobbit films, and a ton more. He's had a really amazing career so far. Cool to see him attached to this show.
I really like  
KevinBBWC : 1/23/2023 8:01 am : link
what they are doing with the openings of the episodes.

Keep reading that the next episode is supposed to be amazing.
RE: I really like  
j_rud : 1/23/2023 9:04 am : link
In comment 16009764 KevinBBWC said:
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what they are doing with the openings of the episodes.

Keep reading that the next episode is supposed to be amazing.



Looks like we get the Bill and Frank story next week. Big Nick Offerman fan, looking forward to it. Any fans of Devs here? Super underrated IMO, a recent(ish) favorite.
It’s been great  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2023 9:17 am : link
love the castings and you can really tell that having Strauss on board is a huge benefit (Chernobyl EP).
I havent played a video game since NHL 94  
John In CO : 1/23/2023 9:21 am : link
but I am loving this show. The only thing that bugs me now is every time I try to go somewhere to discuss it everyone is talking about the game and things that are coming in the future. I dont wanna know!:)
It has been really good so far  
Chef : 1/23/2023 9:42 am : link
But I really don't care for the Ellie and Tess casting. Don't have to deal with Tess anymore but...
RE: It has been really good so far  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/23/2023 9:49 am : link
In comment 16009939 Chef said:
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But I really don't care for the Ellie and Tess casting. Don't have to deal with Tess anymore but...



I wasn’t a fan of the Ellie casting, but Ramsey has won me over. She was really solid in this episode.
RE: RE: It has been really good so far  
HMunster : 1/23/2023 10:59 am : link
In comment 16009955 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But I really don't care for the Ellie and Tess casting. Don't have to deal with Tess anymore but...




I wasn’t a fan of the Ellie casting, but Ramsey has won me over. She was really solid in this episode.

Same. I was apprehensive at the start and still unsure after the first episode, but she was great in E2. Really captured that attitude that Ellie has with Joel when they're still figuring each other out.


how gory is it?  
GiantsLaw : 1/23/2023 11:07 am : link
wondering if it's watch with the wife material...
Never played  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/23/2023 11:15 am : link
Not a gamer but solid so far. Zero idea of the story so it’s all new to me so no clue to the deviations.

As a book reader they wasn’t biggest issue w GOT. Thought some of the deviations there were just to be provocative vs needed.

But very much looking forward to this as they flesh out those story for me
RE: how gory is it?  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2023 11:21 am : link
In comment 16010103 GiantsLaw said:
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wondering if it's watch with the wife material...


It’s not too bad, walking dead has way more gore for the sake of gore. But LoU is situationally a lot scarier, if that makes sense.
so the spores in the air  
KDubbs : 1/23/2023 11:32 am : link
isnt happening in the show?
RE: so the spores in the air  
HMunster : 1/23/2023 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16010142 KDubbs said:
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isnt happening in the show?

Possibly in the future (i.e., Season 2).

Druckman said that from a realism standpoint, if they kept the disease airborne (spores) then realistically everyone would be wearing a gas mask the whole time and that it would spread through much faster. It wouldn't be confined to just the indoor spaces. So they made that change.

But he didn't rule it out in some form in the future.
RE: RE: so the spores in the air  
KDubbs : 1/23/2023 12:18 pm : link
In comment 16010214 HMunster said:
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isnt happening in the show?


Possibly in the future (i.e., Season 2).

Druckman said that from a realism standpoint, if they kept the disease airborne (spores) then realistically everyone would be wearing a gas mask the whole time and that it would spread through much faster. It wouldn't be confined to just the indoor spaces. So they made that change.

But he didn't rule it out in some form in the future.


Gotcha, that was a fun part of the indoor scene in the game when they popped on the masks.
I only watched the first episode so far  
D HOS : 1/23/2023 12:54 pm : link
I though it was a solid opening episode.

I wish they spent more time on world development of the "before" so the effect of the infection and 20 years later would have been much more impactful. Maybe this can come later as flashback episodes.

Also, I get there is source material (I haven't played the game) but 20 years later, I think things would be in a much different state than what was portrayed. It seems like only 10 years later at the most.

But aside from that, it was really good. I felt like some of the events were probably "missions" from the game. Honestly I was looking for quest markers. But that wasn't a problem, just something I noticed. I absolutely could see "get a battery" as a quest, for instance. And I could totally imagine the conversation tree when meeting a guard in a hostile situation, where you had previously conspired with that guard.

Basically though it seemed like the longest cutscene ever as it didn't even get to the tutorial part yet after over an hour.
D HOS  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2023 1:54 pm : link
I don’t know if it will happen every episodes but through 2 so far they are spending time on what happened before present day. Won’t spoil ep 2 for you but it’s significant to the story and addresses some of your concerns.
Loved it  
RCPhoenix : 1/23/2023 6:27 pm : link
I half expected Joel to get grabbed and then a black screen comes up saying “you need a Shiv to kill a clicker”
I also liked  
RCPhoenix : 1/23/2023 6:29 pm : link
That we saw “runners” at the end. And having the fungus be connected is a nice touch, definitely adds to the tension
One thing I'm not crazy about is this whole hive mind idea  
j_rud : 1/23/2023 8:55 pm : link
I feel like that almost makes them too powerful. I'm not saying I hate it or don't like it, but I'm definitely not sold on it.
Love it so far. They're spending money on the scenery and it shows  
oghwga : 1/23/2023 10:11 pm : link
No idea about the game I hope the limits of the game don't limit the scope of the show. Also hoping that they end it when it should end and don't drag it on for the heck of it.
Great f-ing show  
Mike in Marin : 1/23/2023 11:32 pm : link
Loving it. I knew nothing about the video game. The clickers are really originally, as is the whole fungi premise. Really dig these type of thriller/horror/sci-fi shows/movies with deep back-story on the science.

HBO puts out the best quality shows by a mile....though Apple has had some great ones too.

This, Station 11, and a few other recent ones have been spectacular.
RE: how gory is it?  
colin : 1/24/2023 8:18 am : link
In comment 16010103 GiantsLaw said:
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wondering if it's watch with the wife material...


My wife hates gore and scary movies and absolutely loves it. I loved the video game, she’s not a fan of video games, still a crowd pleaser.

Seems like they went to great lengths to make the disease as realistic as possible which adds to it, my wife even found a Washington Post article about “What The Last of Us got right,” scientifically. That said, it was such a great story to begin with. I have PTSD from GoT after they got passed the books, so we’ll see what happens after season 2, but they’re absolutely nailing it.

Now when the fuck are we going to get a Red Dead Redemption 2 & 1 show?
RE: I only watched the first episode so far  
Bear vs Shark : 1/24/2023 8:47 am : link
In comment 16010360 D HOS said:
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I though it was a solid opening episode.

I wish they spent more time on world development of the "before" so the effect of the infection and 20 years later would have been much more impactful. Maybe this can come later as flashback episodes.

Also, I get there is source material (I haven't played the game) but 20 years later, I think things would be in a much different state than what was portrayed. It seems like only 10 years later at the most.

But aside from that, it was really good. I felt like some of the events were probably "missions" from the game. Honestly I was looking for quest markers. But that wasn't a problem, just something I noticed. I absolutely could see "get a battery" as a quest, for instance. And I could totally imagine the conversation tree when meeting a guard in a hostile situation, where you had previously conspired with that guard.

Basically though it seemed like the longest cutscene ever as it didn't even get to the tutorial part yet after over an hour.
The game/source material/story really isn't about the infected, but about Ellie and Joel, which is why I believe there was a conscious decision to not expose too much of the before-times. Having said that, they do spend more time in the intro in the pre-outbreak world than they do in the game.

I was listening to the companion podcast and Craig Mazin + Neil Druckmann (creator/writer of the video game and director of Ep 2) stated that since they have an episodic format in TV, they can use the first few minutes of episodes to show non-seqitor glimpses of the pre-pandemic world, which is something you couldn't do in the game because there aren't those types of unified breaks when someone can continuously keep playing. This makes me feel like they might give a snippet of the outbreak at the start of each episode.

Bella Ramsey is really winning me over as Ellie, though I did prefer the delivery of some of my favorite lines from the video game. Two that stick out for me was Ellie telling Joel "fuck you man, I didn't ask for this" -- a part that I think really resonated with me throughout the game as shit kept hitting the fan more and more. Another one that stuck out to me was Ellie calling out that Tess was infected. All in all though, Bella is nailing Ellie, which is a VERY difficult character to play given the lofty standards from the game.

On a side note, this whole thing is surreal - I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY THEY TURNED MY FAVORITE GAME INTO A HUGE HBO SHOW!
RE: Great f-ing show  
KDubbs : 1/24/2023 9:26 am : link
In comment 16011260 Mike in Marin said:
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Loving it. I knew nothing about the video game. The clickers are really originally, as is the whole fungi premise. Really dig these type of thriller/horror/sci-fi shows/movies with deep back-story on the science.

HBO puts out the best quality shows by a mile....though Apple has had some great ones too.

This, Station 11, and a few other recent ones have been spectacular.


Station 11 and The Leftovers are 2 of my favorite shows ever. I feel like a lot of people missed out on those 2
RE: RE: I only watched the first episode so far  
RCPhoenix : 1/24/2023 1:23 pm : link
In comment 16011437 Bear vs Shark said:
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I was listening to the companion podcast and Craig Mazin + Neil Druckmann (creator/writer of the video game and director of Ep 2) stated that since they have an episodic format in TV, they can use the first few minutes of episodes to show non-seqitor glimpses of the pre-pandemic world, which is something you couldn't do in the game because there aren't those types of unified breaks when someone can continuously keep playing. This makes me feel like they might give a snippet of the outbreak at the start of each episode.



I highly recommend the companion podcast. They explain some of the reasons when they deviate from the game, what goes into the production, and comment on what the actors are doing (like when Joel flinches when Tess steps towards him to show him her bite mark)
RE: RE: Great f-ing show  
John In CO : 1/25/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16011512 KDubbs said:
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Loving it. I knew nothing about the video game. The clickers are really originally, as is the whole fungi premise. Really dig these type of thriller/horror/sci-fi shows/movies with deep back-story on the science.

HBO puts out the best quality shows by a mile....though Apple has had some great ones too.

This, Station 11, and a few other recent ones have been spectacular.



Station 11 and The Leftovers are 2 of my favorite shows ever. I feel like a lot of people missed out on those 2


I finished watching "The Leftovers" last week and I thought it was fantastic. Season 1 was good, but 2 and 3 were fantastic. I kept thinking while watching how it was that I missed out on this one. I only watched it based on a strong recommendation from a friend. Very happy I got that recommendaiton.
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