On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
I’ll take DJ over those 4. But only at the right price. I just get pissed at anyone who points to the top elite QBs (Mahomes, Burrow, Hurts, Allen, Herbert, Jackson… and yes assuming they are all healthy) and says “I don’t really see a difference :/ “ … I’ll even put DJ as a top 10 QB and we can win a SB with him, but he is NOT ahead of those dudes. That’s simply the reality we need to face in building this team going forward. That is all.
I'm as high on Jones as anybody here, and I wouldn't even come close to saying that.
Mahomes and Burrow are on a whole other level. I put Jones in the group below with
Allen, Herbert, and Hurts. Most people put Jones in the group behind that, so not sure where you found the premise for this thread.
Im not saying he is Joe Burrow but seriously lets gwy some perspective here. Give Joe Burrow Slayton, Hodgins and James and then Give DJ Higgins,Chase and Boyd and get back to me.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Ceedee Lamb
Justin Jefferson
Devante Adams
Amon Ra St Brown
Darius Slayton
Those are the leaders in targets on those teams for 2022. I’m assuming even the stupidest person on BBI can recognize the difference between these receivers.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Burrow’s offensive line was dominant yesterday. Did you see the game?
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Burrow’s offensive line was dominant yesterday. Did you see the game?
His line was atrocious all year until yesterday. You tune in to one game and think you have the answers. It's like someone telling you the Giants line is great because Jones had a lot of time vs the Vikings.
But I haven’t seen anyone saying he’s in Burrows class. Jones is 25 and is improving. Give him some Wrs in this offense and his passing numbers will improve.
Does everything have to be twisted and exaggerated just to argue even more sp than we already are?
Stick to reality.
Many people on this board have argued this.
I don't think so dude... lol. I haven't seen that one. Herbert maybe. I love me some DJ and want him back with us long term but if I had to choose between him and Burrow?? lol
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
You are quoting your opinion as fact as usual (again). You don't know this. I have to believe if Schoen offers Jones another contract then he thinks Jones can do more if given the resources. I will trust his opinion over yours, even though I realize you think you are a QB guru
A number of people (whenever they joined BBI I don’t care) have made this argument and I was just pointing out that they are idiots. A large percentage of BBI agree with me and I was just looking for y’all to confirm this adamantly to snuff out the r****ds. But instead many people who agree with me have decided to attack me and tell me this phenomenon of stupidness doesn’t exist. Ok fine. Sorry for posting one thing that made you feel uncomfortable in some way.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
My “side” ?
Let me clarify what I meant by "on your side" - supporting the idiotic narrative that you're suggesting is a reality on this forum and one you're champing at the bit to see others confirm.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
My “side” ?
Let me clarify what I meant by "on your side" - supporting the idiotic narrative that you're suggesting is a reality on this forum and one you're champing at the bit to see others confirm.
I’m champing at the bit to show how stupid those people are. Period.
ryanmkeane : 1/17/2023 7:51 pm : link : reply
People need to relax on Burrow being so much better than Jones. Yeah I said it. Right now they are playing pretty equal football when you consider what Jones is doing with his legs. Would be nice if Jones had Tee Higgins and Chase to catch everything in sight within a 10 foot radius
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
You say one thing about Daniel Jones not being Jesus Christ and people on BBI assume you are are saying he is not the next coming of Eli Goddamn Manning… or Jesus Christ… idk I’m micing up my metaphors at this point. The point is: I WANT Jones to be the Quarterback of this team. And I think we can win a super bowl with him. But yes i have perused this board and many ignorant souls say his is as good as Burrow or better. Idc when they joined BBI they are saying this. I’m just saying let’s build the team knowing exactly what we have, DJ needs help around him, that’s all I’m saying.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
Burrow also throws on the run better, has better arm talent, audibles better, has a better winning pedigree, etc.
The most TD passes Burrow has thrown in a season is 35. Therefore, to suggest an inferior player would "put up 30+ TD easy" is just daft.
A number of people (whenever they joined BBI I don’t care) have made this argument and I was just pointing out that they are idiots. A large percentage of BBI agree with me and I was just looking for y’all to confirm this adamantly to snuff out the r****ds. But instead many people who agree with me have decided to attack me and tell me this phenomenon of stupidness doesn’t exist. Ok fine. Sorry for posting one thing that made you feel uncomfortable in some way.
What exactly was the argument? Making a rogue comment to piss people off is what many people do, and yes I’ve seen that. I don’t recall anyone making this argument with some sort of reasoning behind it. Seems like a complete waste of time to start this and then argue about it.
A number of people (whenever they joined BBI I don’t care) have made this argument and I was just pointing out that they are idiots. A large percentage of BBI agree with me and I was just looking for y’all to confirm this adamantly to snuff out the r****ds. But instead many people who agree with me have decided to attack me and tell me this phenomenon of stupidness doesn’t exist. Ok fine. Sorry for posting one thing that made you feel uncomfortable in some way.
What exactly was the argument? Making a rogue comment to piss people off is what many people do, and yes I’ve seen that. I don’t recall anyone making this argument with some sort of reasoning behind it. Seems like a complete waste of time to start this and then argue about it.
Well you should’ve been on the Bills Bengals thread … as the Bengals we’re winning by 3 scores and people were still arguing this. If you think this thread was useless for your own purposes just ignore it.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
Burrow also throws on the run better, has better arm talent, audibles better, has a better winning pedigree, etc.
The most TD passes Burrow has thrown in a season is 35. Therefore, to suggest an inferior player would "put up 30+ TD easy" is just daft.
IMO, this hit is the turning point in Burrow's career. He was good going into the fiesta bowl his Junior year, but has been playing on another level since. Burrow may not be as skilled as some of the other QBs in the league, but he is the best leader right now and Jones has a lot of work to do to if he wants to catch him.
On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
Exactly this.
Make believe is fun! He said it, must be true if you guys click your heels together and snap your fingers 4 times, right?
Burrow probably has more passing TDs this year than DJ has the last 3 years combined. DJ just needs that 1 good WR and we'll be sizing him for a gold jacket. Der...der...
Stick to reality.
Stick to reality.
Many people on this board have argued this.
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
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Does everything have to be twisted and exaggerated just to argue even more sp than we already are?
Stick to reality.
Many people on this board have argued this.
Nope. They haven’t. Find one post. One.
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
I’ll take DJ over those 4. But only at the right price. I just get pissed at anyone who points to the top elite QBs (Mahomes, Burrow, Hurts, Allen, Herbert, Jackson… and yes assuming they are all healthy) and says “I don’t really see a difference :/ “ … I’ll even put DJ as a top 10 QB and we can win a SB with him, but he is NOT ahead of those dudes. That’s simply the reality we need to face in building this team going forward. That is all.
Mahomes and Burrow are on a whole other level. I put Jones in the group below with
Allen, Herbert, and Hurts. Most people put Jones in the group behind that, so not sure where you found the premise for this thread.
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Does everything have to be twisted and exaggerated just to argue even more sp than we already are?
Stick to reality.
Many people on this board have argued this.
Nope. They haven’t. Find one post. One.
Oh ok. How about the post right below yours?
Now watch this thread and how many of them pile up.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
Ceedee Lamb
Justin Jefferson
Devante Adams
Amon Ra St Brown
Darius Slayton
Those are the leaders in targets on those teams for 2022. I’m assuming even the stupidest person on BBI can recognize the difference between these receivers.
Exactly this.
lol.. ok
Just admit Jones is not in Burrow''s universe.
Uhhh. No sir. Keep monitoring this thread. I certainly am. Got my popcorn ready🍿😁
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
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Dak
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
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On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Burrow’s offensive line was dominant yesterday. Did you see the game?
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On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
This comment is so disrespectful to Burrow. He’s played behind arguably a worse OL than DJ.
Burrow’s offensive line was dominant yesterday. Did you see the game?
His line was atrocious all year until yesterday. You tune in to one game and think you have the answers. It's like someone telling you the Giants line is great because Jones had a lot of time vs the Vikings.
Maybe read the thread.
Maybe read the thread.
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This is stupid.
Maybe read the thread.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
Prescott, yes. Burrow, no.
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This is stupid.
Maybe read the thread.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
My “side” ?
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Does everything have to be twisted and exaggerated just to argue even more sp than we already are?
Stick to reality.
Many people on this board have argued this.
I don't think so dude... lol. I haven't seen that one. Herbert maybe. I love me some DJ and want him back with us long term but if I had to choose between him and Burrow?? lol
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Dak
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
You are quoting your opinion as fact as usual (again). You don't know this. I have to believe if Schoen offers Jones another contract then he thinks Jones can do more if given the resources. I will trust his opinion over yours, even though I realize you think you are a QB guru
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In comment 16011159 Chris in Philly said:
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This is stupid.
Maybe read the thread.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
My “side” ?
Let me clarify what I meant by "on your side" - supporting the idiotic narrative that you're suggesting is a reality on this forum and one you're champing at the bit to see others confirm.
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In comment 16011162 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 16011159 Chris in Philly said:
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This is stupid.
Maybe read the thread.
Congrats, you have a couple of January 2023 accounts on your side.
My “side” ?
Let me clarify what I meant by "on your side" - supporting the idiotic narrative that you're suggesting is a reality on this forum and one you're champing at the bit to see others confirm.
I’m champing at the bit to show how stupid those people are. Period.
People need to relax on Burrow being so much better than Jones. Yeah I said it. Right now they are playing pretty equal football when you consider what Jones is doing with his legs. Would be nice if Jones had Tee Higgins and Chase to catch everything in sight within a 10 foot radius
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In comment 16011118 GMen72 said:
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Dak
Cousins
Carr
Goff
DJ has wet dreams about being as good as Burrow.
All you do is quote raw stats with no context, which is meaningless. All of those QB's have 1 or more top WRs/TEs, and play in offenses that throw the ball a lot more because of this. The Giants offense is around Barkley and Jones running, not built around throwing. Oh by the way, I see you ignored Jones rushing yards and rushing TDs
The offense is designed the way it is because of Daniel Jones' limitations. And if we pay him $40M per year we are going nowhere for the duration of his contract.
Says fucking you Producer. Go away.
Burrow also throws on the run better, has better arm talent, audibles better, has a better winning pedigree, etc.
The most TD passes Burrow has thrown in a season is 35. Therefore, to suggest an inferior player would "put up 30+ TD easy" is just daft.
What exactly was the argument? Making a rogue comment to piss people off is what many people do, and yes I’ve seen that. I don’t recall anyone making this argument with some sort of reasoning behind it. Seems like a complete waste of time to start this and then argue about it.
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A number of people (whenever they joined BBI I don’t care) have made this argument and I was just pointing out that they are idiots. A large percentage of BBI agree with me and I was just looking for y’all to confirm this adamantly to snuff out the r****ds. But instead many people who agree with me have decided to attack me and tell me this phenomenon of stupidness doesn’t exist. Ok fine. Sorry for posting one thing that made you feel uncomfortable in some way.
What exactly was the argument? Making a rogue comment to piss people off is what many people do, and yes I’ve seen that. I don’t recall anyone making this argument with some sort of reasoning behind it. Seems like a complete waste of time to start this and then argue about it.
Well you should’ve been on the Bills Bengals thread … as the Bengals we’re winning by 3 scores and people were still arguing this. If you think this thread was useless for your own purposes just ignore it.
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On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
Burrow also throws on the run better, has better arm talent, audibles better, has a better winning pedigree, etc.
The most TD passes Burrow has thrown in a season is 35. Therefore, to suggest an inferior player would "put up 30+ TD easy" is just daft.
IMO, this hit is the turning point in Burrow's career. He was good going into the fiesta bowl his Junior year, but has been playing on another level since. Burrow may not be as skilled as some of the other QBs in the league, but he is the best leader right now and Jones has a lot of work to do to if he wants to catch him.
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On the bengals with jamar chase et al and he would put up 30+ TD easy plus he’s a better runner. Burrow better pocket presence for sure and reads better but DJ/Burrow are a lot closer overall, it’s just hard to compare when he’s surrounded by practice squad trash/Jason Garret offense.
Exactly this.
Make believe is fun! He said it, must be true if you guys click your heels together and snap your fingers 4 times, right?
Burrow probably has more passing TDs this year than DJ has the last 3 years combined. DJ just needs that 1 good WR and we'll be sizing him for a gold jacket. Der...der...
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This is stupid.
Maybe read the thread.
Do you have multiple handles by any chance?