Keep one cut one

I'll keep both. But Lawrence is obviously the younger, better, and thus more valuable player to the Giants.

The 4 years apart in age the two are is a difference of "your best years are coming" vs "you've had your best years".

and I don't say that lightly since I like what Williams has to offer with pass rush. The trouble is going to be replacing him, since we ran into a problem like that when JPP was traded to the Buccaneers and we had nobody who could rush the passer from the edge until 2021/2022 (unless people liked Lorenzo Carter).

That's it. Check the snap count. Leonard played extensively through a lot of injuries this year. Hopefully he heals up and gets back to his peak next year.
Rather tha cut him, I'd be looking at a reasonable extension and bringing in some additional help to lighten the load on those two.

Yesterday Schoen kidded the reporters about saying Leo would like to be back and would consider taking less to stay here.

Schoen thanked them for that and said he didn't say that in the exit interview.

Think he sets a value but if it gets too far apart between the parties he will let him go but I think they work out a extension.

Dex is younger, but will also probably have a huge contract extension after next year, or they can franchise tag him after this season, so at least he's controllable for the next two seasons.

But he's the anchor of the defense, you have to lock him up at some point. Guys like him are not guys you let walk.

Dexter, for sure

In comment 16011918 MOOPS said:

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That's it. Check the snap count. Leonard played extensively through a lot of injuries this year. Hopefully he heals up and gets back to his peak next year. Rather tha cut him, I'd be looking at a reasonable extension and bringing in some additional help to lighten the load on those two.

Leo is costing 32mil next year. Is he worth that??

In comment 16011945 Blackmax00 said:

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In comment 16011918 MOOPS said: Quote: That's it. Check the snap count. Leonard played extensively through a lot of injuries this year. Hopefully he heals up and gets back to his peak next year. Rather tha cut him, I'd be looking at a reasonable extension and bringing in some additional help to lighten the load on those two. Leo is costing 32mil next year. Is he worth that??

How much is in salary? That’s all you can save by cutting him.

He said you identify your core players, pay them and keep them. The non-core guys? You have to let them go when it's time for them to get paid, then cycle through replacements. You love those guys, but you can't keep them because you can't pay them.

Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence are probably core, but yes, Williams probably falls out of the core soon.

I tried to figure who's core right now, and it's a pretty short list, not counting this season's rookies: Lawrence, Jones, Thomas, Williams. There are a lot of guys on the roster who the Giants probably would be happy to keep but won't pay much. Richie James... Darius Slayton... Fabian Moreau... Landon Collins... Nice to have, not core.

you have to fill the role they played. So is the plan to create MORE holes and then use resources we desperately need for WR, CB, IOL, and LB, and EDGE as well?

No that would be dumb...

In comment 16011962 Ivan15 said:

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In comment 16011945 Blackmax00 said: Quote: In comment 16011918 MOOPS said: Quote: Now I'm not too keen on how all this works. Hes not Aaron Donald though. That's it. Check the snap count. Leonard played extensively through a lot of injuries this year. Hopefully he heals up and gets back to his peak next year. Rather tha cut him, I'd be looking at a reasonable extension and bringing in some additional help to lighten the load on those two. Leo is costing 32mil next year. Is he worth that?? How much is in salary? That’s all you can save by cutting him.

In comment 16012296 Blackmax00 said:

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In comment 16011962 Ivan15 said: Quote: In comment 16011945 Blackmax00 said: Quote: In comment 16011918 MOOPS said: Quote: Now I'm not too keen on how all this works. Hes not Aaron Donald though. That's it. Check the snap count. Leonard played extensively through a lot of injuries this year. Hopefully he heals up and gets back to his peak next year. Rather tha cut him, I'd be looking at a reasonable extension and bringing in some additional help to lighten the load on those two. Leo is costing 32mil next year. Is he worth that?? How much is in salary? That’s all you can save by cutting him.

His cap hit is 32.2 mil. Thats Aaron Donald money