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NFT: Can I watch SNY and MSG out of market with Youtube TV?

Dr. D : 1/24/2023 4:39 pm
I've had Directv for 20+ years. Besides the NFL Ticket, it was the only way I could also get SNY (for Sportsnite and Mets shows) and MSG (for Giants and Knicks stuff).

I'm getting ready to make the switch to Youtube TV, but it appears that I can't get SNY or MSG with it. Are there any solutions?
I could be wrong  
Everyone Relax : 1/24/2023 4:42 pm : link
but I think you can get anything but the local CBS, Fox, ABC, NBC channels when out of market.
I don't have it as  
Mark from Jersey : 1/24/2023 4:42 pm : link
a Comcast/Xfinity user either. I know Rangers are on ESPN+ but not sure about Knicks.
Oh sorry  
Everyone Relax : 1/24/2023 4:42 pm : link
I assume you aren't signing up from the NYC area? I don't think so in that case.
the system is rigged  
djm : 1/24/2023 4:44 pm : link
if you want to cut the cord, and you're a local NYC sports fan, you basically can't do it without losing 1-2 of the local teams.
directtv stream is a great option  
JJ2525 : 1/24/2023 4:48 pm : link
i know years back it was a disaster but they updated the interface and it's great. I get MSG, YES and SNY.
Nope  
Jints in Carolina : 1/24/2023 4:48 pm : link
I need a damn VPN and ESPN+ just to watch Hurricanes games here because YTTV doesn't have Bally Sports.
RE: I don't have it as  
djm : 1/24/2023 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16012591 Mark from Jersey said:
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a Comcast/Xfinity user either. I know Rangers are on ESPN+ but not sure about Knicks.


Sometimes the Rangers are on ESPN+. Maybe 1-2 times a month. they are usually on MSG.

Can you stream MSG and YES on separate deals or streams? Monthly fees? Or do you need to buy the whole cow. Of course you need to buy the whole cow, if I had to bet.
 
christian : 1/24/2023 5:07 pm : link
If you’re happy with your DTV programming and service, maybe you should wait and see if the standalone Sunday Ticket package through YouTube PrimeTime channels works for you?
Jints  
afann : 1/24/2023 5:14 pm : link
I have ESPN+ and use a VPN (surfshark) and I can’t get the Rangers because I an in NJ. I am ready to cut the cord but I can’t because then I can’t watch the Rangers
I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/24/2023 6:51 pm : link
No, SNY and MSG are not available out of market.

To my knowledge, there is no legal way to get these two services out of market, but I could be wrong. Others here may know of one.

You can use pirate sites (at your own risk) or a VPN, which is also considered piracy, because the services aren't legally available out of market.

I've just been working on a fairly extensive white paper on piracy. The inability of out-of-market fans to access such services is a known piracy driver, and yet these companies won't make them available even to out-of-market fans who are willing to pay for them.
No.  
rsjem1979 : 1/24/2023 7:01 pm : link
Even in market only SNY is available on YTTV.
Fubo TV  
strahan92 : 1/24/2023 7:15 pm : link
Has both SNY and MSG. It’s the only streaming app with both right now.
 
christian : 1/24/2023 7:28 pm : link
I believe what Dr. D is describing is on DTV Satellite — SNY and MSG are available as part of the regional sport package. Live games are still subject to blackout, but the other programming is available.

On YTTV SNY is available in this manner MSG is not.

That said, the MLB.TV, NBA League Pass, and SundayTicket packages are available for out-of-market games through YTTV.

For locals who are looking to cut the chord, DTV Streaming offers MSG, SNY, YES, and the local major network affiliates.
RE: Fubo TV  
Dr. D : 1/24/2023 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16012748 strahan92 said:
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Has both SNY and MSG. It’s the only streaming app with both right now.

But it doesn't look like they're available outside the NY market.
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Dr. D : 1/24/2023 8:16 pm : link
In comment 16012758 christian said:
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On YTTV SNY is available in this manner MSG is not.

It doesn't look like SNY is available on YTTV outside NY market.
RE: I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
Dr. D : 1/24/2023 8:26 pm : link
In comment 16012735 81_Great_Dane said:
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To my knowledge, there is no legal way to get these two services out of market, but I could be wrong. Others here may know of one.

You can use pirate sites (at your own risk) or a VPN, which is also considered piracy, because the services aren't legally available out of market.

I get SNY and MSG out of market legally right now with DTV, through their regional sports package. So it can be done. It appears that YTTV just doesn't offer them.
 
christian : 1/24/2023 8:31 pm : link
Yeah, you’re right. Any reason you’re giving up your DTV?
People  
mitch300 : 1/24/2023 8:46 pm : link
Bitch about direct tv. I am very happy with it. I get MSG,SNY and the YES network.
RE: People  
steve in ky : 1/24/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16012841 mitch300 said:
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Bitch about direct tv. I am very happy with it. I get MSG,SNY and the YES network.


I’ve had Direct TV for years and I’ve always liked it. I don’t understand all the complaints either
RE: RE: I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/24/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16012814 Dr. D said:
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In comment 16012735 81_Great_Dane said:


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To my knowledge, there is no legal way to get these two services out of market, but I could be wrong. Others here may know of one.

You can use pirate sites (at your own risk) or a VPN, which is also considered piracy, because the services aren't legally available out of market.



I get SNY and MSG out of market legally right now with DTV, through their regional sports package. So it can be done. It appears that YTTV just doesn't offer them.
Is that regional sports package available in all regions?
 
christian : 1/24/2023 9:14 pm : link
For me, I jumped from DTV to YTTV for two reasons:

1) YTTV is $65 a month total and has all the channels I watch
2) Zero equipment
I’m in an interesting predicament  
Sean : 1/25/2023 7:45 am : link
I live in Mercer County, NJ which is unique in that I get both NY and Philly local channels through my Fios. I’d like to cut the cord and do YouTubeTV, but then I’ll lose my NY local channels since YTTV recognizes my zip as part of the Philly media market.

This wouldn’t be a big deal, but come NFL season I will miss some Giant games.
I have YTTV as well  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/25/2023 10:11 am : link
I pay $55 a month and have mostly every channel I watch.


The biggest downside is no MSG or YES Network (but that’s not a deal breaker)
RE: RE: I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
aimrocky : 1/25/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16012814 Dr. D said:
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In comment 16012735 81_Great_Dane said:


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To my knowledge, there is no legal way to get these two services out of market, but I could be wrong. Others here may know of one.

You can use pirate sites (at your own risk) or a VPN, which is also considered piracy, because the services aren't legally available out of market.



I get SNY and MSG out of market legally right now with DTV, through their regional sports package. So it can be done. It appears that YTTV just doesn't offer them.


I can't confirm because I still use Cable, but I'm fairly certain that even if you can get the network while out of market, the games themselves are blacked out. This happens to me with NESN. I live in Northeastern Fairfield County, CT (technically NY market, but we receive Hartford/New Haven channels). Spectrum has NESN, but they go to some generic sports programing during Red Sox games. The reason being is that they want you to purchase the out of market sports package.
RE: I have YTTV as well  
jestersdead : 1/25/2023 11:12 am : link
In comment 16013313 JoeyBigBlue said:
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I pay $55 a month and have mostly every channel I watch.


The biggest downside is no MSG or YES Network (but that’s not a deal breaker)

What channels do you primarily watch? Ive been thinking of cutting the cord but for some reason, we hold out. I have Comcast and they no longer carry MSG. Guess I would need the mlb package to watch the Yankees
RE: RE: RE: I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
Dr. D : 1/25/2023 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16012856 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 16012814 Dr. D said:


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In comment 16012735 81_Great_Dane said:


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To my knowledge, there is no legal way to get these two services out of market, but I could be wrong. Others here may know of one.

You can use pirate sites (at your own risk) or a VPN, which is also considered piracy, because the services aren't legally available out of market.



I get SNY and MSG out of market legally right now with DTV, through their regional sports package. So it can be done. It appears that YTTV just doesn't offer them.

Is that regional sports package available in all regions?

yes, as far as I know. I live in FL and get it.
RE: RE: RE: I've had YT TV for a few years, all of them out of NY market.  
Dr. D : 1/25/2023 12:18 pm : link
In comment 16013361 aimrocky said:
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I can't confirm because I still use Cable, but I'm fairly certain that even if you can get the network while out of market, the games themselves are blacked out.

yes, games are blacked out, so you have to buy mlb, etc. I can do that without SNY and the others, but I won't get Mets pre and post game, etc.
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Dr. D : 1/25/2023 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16012818 christian said:
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Yeah, you’re right. Any reason you’re giving up your DTV?

I'm considering it for the same reasons you did, mainly the $ savings. The main reason I went with DTV 20+ yrs ago was the NFL ticket, which it no longer has.

I have to decide whether keeping SNY and MSG is worth the extra cost (not the extra cost of the regional package, but DTV vs. YTTV).
 
christian : 1/25/2023 12:33 pm : link
In comment 16013575 Dr. D said:
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In comment 16012818 christian said:


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Yeah, you’re right. Any reason you’re giving up your DTV?


I'm considering it for the same reasons you did, mainly the $ savings. The main reason I went with DTV 20+ yrs ago was the NFL ticket, which it no longer has.

I have to decide whether keeping SNY and MSG is worth the extra cost (not the extra cost of the regional package, but DTV vs. YTTV).


I was going to recommend you look at DTV streaming, but that looks expensive. I think the equivalent sports package is $100 + tax for one TV, and then $10 a month per additional TV.
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