Mitchell was trying to have an MSG moment and the Knicks finally stepped up on their home floor and said no. Cavs aren’t a whole lot better than us right now, honestly. Maybe if Mobley makes a leap of some kind they’ll get to that top tier.
How many times does he have to score more points than minutes played to get more PT??
Some basketball writer said in an interview, "In the NBA, you are who you can guard." I don't think Obi can really guard anyone but power forwards. He hasn't meshed well with Randle when they play together and it's hard to take Randle out for long stretches when he's playing as well as he has been, even with the flaws in his game.
Obi's in a bad situation and would be better off on another team, as much as it pains me to say so.
and i dont want to move him because i think he can be really good, but i think its time to move Obi for a wing that can play the 10 minutes behind Randle and the 10 minutes behind Rj..
Problem for Obi he has been pgeonholed into Randle's back up and cant play another position ao his minutes are now limited.
For Obi's sake and probably to improve the team, he should be traded
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
It has been pretty widely reported that the Knicks offered a package at least on par with what Cleveland did, and which most analysts I’ve seen/heard actually felt was better than what Utah ended up taking.
I guess you can argue that Rose should have offered even more, but kudos to him for not overpaying because Ainge wanted to take a lesser deal out of spite.
he IS hesitant to make deals it seems BUT i cant kill him for the Utah deal, even Donovan Mitchell alluded to Ainge not making a deal with NY..
There will be other players that become available and honestly if Randle and Brunson are going to play like all stars, you may not need that superstar, they may jist need another all star/upgrade around Brunson and Randle..
and maybe the Cavs go on a big winning streak soon
Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
It has been pretty widely reported that the Knicks offered a package at least on par with what Cleveland did, and which most analysts I’ve seen/heard actually felt was better than what Utah ended up taking.
I guess you can argue that Rose should have offered even more, but kudos to him for not overpaying because Ainge wanted to take a lesser deal out of spite.
The apparent hang up was protected versus unprotected picks. You simply cannot let a deal fall through for a star because of something as ridiculous as that. A star like Mitchell gets this team at or near the top teams in the East. If those picks end up being high enough to be protected the entire thing is a failure anyways. You think they would be picking mid to late 20’s for the next few years, they aren’t getting protected anyways
Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
Its his skillset, you have a coach that wants to play big so Turner adds a player who brings the same thing defensively as Mitch with much better offensive skillset..
When a team tries to beat you by going small, eith Turner you can kill them for it because he can take advantage in the paint, that Mitch cant..
Turner also adds a threst from the outside, so in close games when Randle or Brunson tries to get into the paint the other teams center cant just sit in the paint..
it adds another dimension to this team and 100% makes them better
Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
He doesn't
He misses more games with injuries then Mitch.
Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
Its his skillset, you have a coach that wants to play big so Turner adds a player who brings the same thing defensively as Mitch with much better offensive skillset..
When a team tries to beat you by going small, eith Turner you can kill them for it because he can take advantage in the paint, that Mitch cant..
Turner also adds a threst from the outside, so in close games when Randle or Brunson tries to get into the paint the other teams center cant just sit in the paint..
it adds another dimension to this team and 100% makes them better
You are much, much, much higher on Turner than I am, lol. I fully understand his skill set but between his unavailability at times and the fact he’s a UFA after this season I just don’t see why giving up assets for him is a good idea at all. He’s going to want a huge contract. But regardless of what I think, if they are that infatuated with him sign him in the offseason. Use the assets elsewhere
3 team trade I just made up which actually works under the cap:
Knicks get: OG and John Collins
Hawks get: Siakam and RJ
Raptors get: Trae Young and Julius Randle
there is a poisen pill in his contract this year, so if you trade him, only 10 million counts as outgoing salary but i believe the incoming salary to a new team is around 27 million..so you need a team with cap space to take an extra contract from a team outgoing..
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I don’t believe for a second meyers actually leaves. Just posturing for the re up with the warriors. But my lord id fire rose so fast for meyers.
Not saying much thoigh since I want rose fired anyway
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The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
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The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
You don't want Bob Myers. He is a granola, Birkenstock Berkeley Hills dude. He would never cut it in NY.
Plus, his drafting has been fairly putrid, Remember Steph and Clay were already there when he became GM.
He did draft Draymond in the second and Jordan Poole in the late first. But the rest of his drafting is subpar imo. He lucked out that Durant wanted to come. Lucky rather than good--that's Myers.
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The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
You don't want Bob Myers. He is a granola, Birkenstock Berkeley Hills dude. He would never cut it in NY.
Plus, his drafting has been fairly putrid, Remember Steph and Clay were already there when he became GM.
He did draft Draymond in the second and Jordan Poole in the late first. But the rest of his drafting is subpar imo. He lucked out that Durant wanted to come. Lucky rather than good--that's Myers.
Myers is a very, very good GM. Is he the best in the league? Maybe, maybe not but the Knicks wouldn’t exactly be casting aside Pat Riley in order to hire him either.
NBA's Last Two Minute Report says that #Cavs guard Donovan Mitchell was fouled twice on drives to the basket last night in the final minute of the game. Neither one of them were whistled on the floor.
NBA's Last Two Minute Report says that #Cavs guard Donovan Mitchell was fouled twice on drives to the basket last night in the final minute of the game. Neither one of them were whistled on the floor.
Good for him.
I’ll go check the standings and see if his retweet got him a W in the Win/loss column
Defense
He didnt flop, tried to finish strong..
Three times denied going to the hoop in the last 1:30.
Good player; not worth six years of the draft, in picks and swaps, which is what Ainge wanted.
I dont think Sims makes that play that Hartenstein makes
I dont think Sims makes that play that Hartenstein makes
Kudos to Thibs????
what have you done with 16???
lolllllll
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he changed his rotation a little bit so Brunson cna get minutes with the seocnd unit and take some pressure off of Rj and Quick a little bit
I dont think Sims makes that play that Hartenstein makes
Kudos to Thibs????
what have you done with 16???
lolllllll
He deserves it
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he changed his rotation a little bit so Brunson cna get minutes with the seocnd unit and take some pressure off of Rj and Quick a little bit
I dont think Sims makes that play that Hartenstein makes
Kudos to Thibs????
what have you done with 16???
lolllllll
He deserves it
I am a huge Thibs fan...but he is a stubborn SOB
One thing for certain is that Randle will always be high on the list,and he will stay high.
He's been high since 2019
Three times denied going to the hoop in the last 1:30.
Good player; not worth six years of the draft, in picks and swaps, which is what Ainge wanted.
Mitchell’s fg% at the rim is 70%. That’s a very high number for a guard.
I will take a win at the garden against a playoff team any way we can get it.
Such is life in the nba in 2023
Obi's in a bad situation and would be better off on another team, as much as it pains me to say so.
Problem for Obi he has been pgeonholed into Randle's back up and cant play another position ao his minutes are now limited.
For Obi's sake and probably to improve the team, he should be traded
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
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Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
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Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
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Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
It has been pretty widely reported that the Knicks offered a package at least on par with what Cleveland did, and which most analysts I’ve seen/heard actually felt was better than what Utah ended up taking.
I guess you can argue that Rose should have offered even more, but kudos to him for not overpaying because Ainge wanted to take a lesser deal out of spite.
There will be other players that become available and honestly if Randle and Brunson are going to play like all stars, you may not need that superstar, they may jist need another all star/upgrade around Brunson and Randle..
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Why free them? It’s called depth. Unless you tell me what the return is. I think our executives know we need a star. There just isn’t one available yet. They are not making a trade just to make one.
They had the best chance they’re ever gonna get to trade for a star. They blew it. What exactly has Rose and Co. ever done to make you think they can actually pull off a deal for a star? Sure, they want one. They just aren’t willing to give up what it’s gonna take to get one. It’s not happening
They were willing, Ainge was never trading him to NY, never..
I’ll believe it when I see it. We aren’t gonna be able to blame Ainge the next time a star gets traded somewhere else
It has been pretty widely reported that the Knicks offered a package at least on par with what Cleveland did, and which most analysts I’ve seen/heard actually felt was better than what Utah ended up taking.
I guess you can argue that Rose should have offered even more, but kudos to him for not overpaying because Ainge wanted to take a lesser deal out of spite.
The apparent hang up was protected versus unprotected picks. You simply cannot let a deal fall through for a star because of something as ridiculous as that. A star like Mitchell gets this team at or near the top teams in the East. If those picks end up being high enough to be protected the entire thing is a failure anyways. You think they would be picking mid to late 20’s for the next few years, they aren’t getting protected anyways
I mean, Randle had 36, 13 and 4. Obi's main problem is that the guy ahead of him is actually good (this year)
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
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Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
Its his skillset, you have a coach that wants to play big so Turner adds a player who brings the same thing defensively as Mitch with much better offensive skillset..
When a team tries to beat you by going small, eith Turner you can kill them for it because he can take advantage in the paint, that Mitch cant..
Turner also adds a threst from the outside, so in close games when Randle or Brunson tries to get into the paint the other teams center cant just sit in the paint..
it adds another dimension to this team and 100% makes them better
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Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
He doesn't
He misses more games with injuries then Mitch.
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Tells me if we make a move for Myles Turner… between him and Robinson missing games left and right, Sims will get a lot of PT
Agreed. For the life of me I cannot figure out their apparent obsession with Turner. We’ve heard the Knicks connected to him for two years now. I just don’t see how he moves the needle at all
Its his skillset, you have a coach that wants to play big so Turner adds a player who brings the same thing defensively as Mitch with much better offensive skillset..
When a team tries to beat you by going small, eith Turner you can kill them for it because he can take advantage in the paint, that Mitch cant..
Turner also adds a threst from the outside, so in close games when Randle or Brunson tries to get into the paint the other teams center cant just sit in the paint..
it adds another dimension to this team and 100% makes them better
You are much, much, much higher on Turner than I am, lol. I fully understand his skill set but between his unavailability at times and the fact he’s a UFA after this season I just don’t see why giving up assets for him is a good idea at all. He’s going to want a huge contract. But regardless of what I think, if they are that infatuated with him sign him in the offseason. Use the assets elsewhere
Its part of the reason why i was excited about Hartenstein when they signed him
As long as there’s a move in the off-season to send rj and more assets for “the guy” like Booker.
Really nice win last night. Randle takes a lot of shit including from me, but he was a force last night against 2 good defensive bigs.
Knicks get: OG and John Collins
Hawks get: Siakam and RJ
Raptors get: Trae Young and Julius Randle
feel free to tear it apart! lol.
Very hard to trade Rj right now..
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People around Warriors GM Bob Myers believe he could become a free agent this summer, per @anthonyVslater, @ThompsonScribe and @sam_amick.
The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
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People around Warriors GM Bob Myers believe he could become a free agent this summer, per @anthonyVslater, @ThompsonScribe and @sam_amick.
The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
I don’t believe for a second meyers actually leaves. Just posturing for the re up with the warriors. But my lord id fire rose so fast for meyers.
Not saying much thoigh since I want rose fired anyway
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The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
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People around Warriors GM Bob Myers believe he could become a free agent this summer, per @anthonyVslater, @ThompsonScribe and @sam_amick.
The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
You don't want Bob Myers. He is a granola, Birkenstock Berkeley Hills dude. He would never cut it in NY.
Plus, his drafting has been fairly putrid, Remember Steph and Clay were already there when he became GM.
He did draft Draymond in the second and Jordan Poole in the late first. But the rest of his drafting is subpar imo. He lucked out that Durant wanted to come. Lucky rather than good--that's Myers.
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People around Warriors GM Bob Myers believe he could become a free agent this summer, per @anthonyVslater, @ThompsonScribe and @sam_amick.
The Wizards, Knicks, Suns and Clippers are all monitoring the situation
Highly doubt he'd work for Dolan anyways unless it was for some kind of ridiculously high dollar offer.
You don't want Bob Myers. He is a granola, Birkenstock Berkeley Hills dude. He would never cut it in NY.
Plus, his drafting has been fairly putrid, Remember Steph and Clay were already there when he became GM.
He did draft Draymond in the second and Jordan Poole in the late first. But the rest of his drafting is subpar imo. He lucked out that Durant wanted to come. Lucky rather than good--that's Myers.
Myers is a very, very good GM. Is he the best in the league? Maybe, maybe not but the Knicks wouldn’t exactly be casting aside Pat Riley in order to hire him either.
Good for him.
I’ll go check the standings and see if his retweet got him a W in the Win/loss column
It’s been 38 years since the Knicks had any luck, so I’d take lucky.