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Which Giants players do you expect to be signed to stay.

Ira : 1/25/2023 8:03 am
Note - this is not about preferences. It's about who you feel will be here in September. I'll start.

1) I think they work out something with Jones - low to mid 30m per year.
2) I think Saquon walks. He wants and can get more than it makes sense to pay him.
3) Shepard's an interesting question. I have no idea.
4) Julian Love stays. They work out something reasonable. Every player can't be a star. Love is a good fit.
5) Gates - another tough one. I think he stays. The Giants know what he can do when healthy and they like him.
6) Breida - A good backup. He's played under Daboll for 2 seasons now and is a good fit.
7) Moreau - Another good backup. I think they'll find a way to bring him back after what he did with all the injuries at corner.
8) The Scottish Hammer - he was getting a little better at kicking it so it doesn't go into the end zone, but still has a problem there. I don't know about this one.
9) Richie James - I don't think he'll ask for too much to fill the bottom end of the receiver room.
10) Feliciano - bye bye - We can and will do better.
11) Justin Ellis/Nick Williams/Marcus Johnson etc will be gone.
That's all I got.

Additions - subtractions - changes. Go for it!
The guys I feel strongly about bringing back are  
robbieballs2003 : 1/25/2023 8:12 am : link
Jones
Love
Gates
Get Dex locked up long term now
Most of what you list,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/25/2023 8:12 am : link
but remember, Feliciano had never played C before, so as a backup C and G I think he’d be ideal if Schoen deems the money to be well spent there
RE: Most of what you list,  
section125 : 1/25/2023 8:18 am : link
In comment 16013107 Big Blue '56 said:
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but remember, Feliciano had never played C before, so as a backup C and G I think he’d be ideal if Schoen deems the money to be well spent there


Agree on Feliciano. He moves well and blocks on the move quite well. Would be a nice backup at C and G, at vet minimum or just above.
Putting aside Jones who will likely be tagged and  
chick310 : 1/25/2023 8:20 am : link
Barkley who should probably be replaced with simple theory of supply/demand at RB, there isn't another core player on the OP's list.

Love and Breida are decent pieces that I would give some effort to retain, but whatever on the others.
I d add Hodgins to this list  
Blue21 : 1/25/2023 8:37 am : link
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Also wouldn't be surprised if Ximines for cheap  
Blue21 : 1/25/2023 8:41 am : link
As a backup.
UFA's  
Sec_149 : 1/25/2023 9:07 am : link
I think they bring back Jones for about 30 million a year.
Saquon -- I think he signs a 3 year deal after making the rounds.
Love -- I think he leaves, he seems to overvalue himself, maybe someone pays him.
Feliciano -- I hope he ends up staying as the backup Center/Guard.
James -- I would like to see him come back
Shepard -- I think comes back on a 1 year incentive laden deal.
Breida -- He comes back, I think he is a perfect backup.
WR  
giantsaz : 1/25/2023 9:25 am : link
Colin Johnson , hope he returns , see what he brings to wr depth.
I hope Richie James  
OBJ_AllDay : 1/25/2023 9:39 am : link
is back. A nothing special wr but will be low cost and he had a nice chemistry going with Jones. He could provide insurance against the Wandale injury. Despite what he says I doubt he is ready to go week 1 next year.

Love is an interesting case. He had a good year and seems like a good leader but I'm not sure I'm willing to pay him what he's looking for. Still have to lock up McKinney down the road. Think Love is gone.

RE: Also wouldn't be surprised if Ximines for cheap  
Sammo85 : 1/25/2023 9:46 am : link
In comment 16013133 Blue21 said:
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As a backup.


No thanks. And I think Giants are moving on for sure. Aside from 1 or 2 games this year he was invisible and snaps disappeared latter half of season.
RE: I hope Richie James  
Sammo85 : 1/25/2023 9:47 am : link
In comment 16013232 OBJ_AllDay said:
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is back. A nothing special wr but will be low cost and he had a nice chemistry going with Jones. He could provide insurance against the Wandale injury. Despite what he says I doubt he is ready to go week 1 next year.

Love is an interesting case. He had a good year and seems like a good leader but I'm not sure I'm willing to pay him what he's looking for. Still have to lock up McKinney down the road. Think Love is gone.


I don’t see a situation where we can pay both the safeties what they think market rate is. It’s one or the other.
Most of the players you list as questionable or doubtful will be  
Ivan15 : 1/25/2023 9:59 am : link
Offered a prove-it contract and will be on the 90-man roster if they sign it. Performance will determine if they make it to the 53. Players over 30 like Feliciano, Ellis and Nick Williams may not get an offer. Feliciano is interesting. Almost certainly they could do better, but if his performance didn’t go downhill during the season (I think he may have improved in the last half), he may also get a 1-year contract.
A few of my thoughts  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/25/2023 10:06 am : link
I think Nick Williams played pretty well. He was starting for a window of time this past season. I wouldn't mind bringing him back for depth.

I could see a scenario where Love takes bigger money elsewhere. I like him, but he seems like an average player.

This might be semantics, but I don't think Barkley "walks." The worst case would be a franchise tag and trade situation.

I think the Ximines experiment has to end.

I wonder if there are better options than Richie James in the slot. Shepard and Robinson would both be above him on the depth chart if healthy (I know, big if) and he will likely want to look for a starting spot.

I wonder if there are better options at punter. I hope they at least look into this.
RE: I hope Richie James  
DefenseWins : 1/25/2023 10:19 am : link
In comment 16013232 OBJ_AllDay said:
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is back. A nothing special wr but will be low cost and he had a nice chemistry going with Jones. He could provide insurance against the Wandale injury. Despite what he says I doubt he is ready to go week 1 next year.




filling your roster with guys like Richie James is how you win championships. Not because James is a top caliber WR, but because he is a solid player at a low cost.

This team has had zero depth for a decade. You cannot let players like this walk because you immediately want another player like him the minute he is gone.

Part of the success that the Pats had was constantly finding "football players" who were smart, who could do their job, and were dependable. We need more guys like this.

If you remove the one game when James had two special teams fumbles, he has been really good for us.
Not mentioned earlier...  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/25/2023 10:43 am : link
...but Jihad Ward, even though he is somewhat limited, was kind of the pulse of the defense. I wouldn't mind having him back at all.
RE: RE: I hope Richie James  
Ira : 1/25/2023 11:46 am : link
In comment 16013330 DefenseWins said:
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In comment 16013232 OBJ_AllDay said:


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is back. A nothing special wr but will be low cost and he had a nice chemistry going with Jones. He could provide insurance against the Wandale injury. Despite what he says I doubt he is ready to go week 1 next year.






filling your roster with guys like Richie James is how you win championships. Not because James is a top caliber WR, but because he is a solid player at a low cost.

This team has had zero depth for a decade. You cannot let players like this walk because you immediately want another player like him the minute he is gone.

Part of the success that the Pats had was constantly finding "football players" who were smart, who could do their job, and were dependable. We need more guys like this.

If you remove the one game when James had two special teams fumbles, he has been really good for us.


Good point - that's probably what they're getting at when they use the phrase - 'smart, tough, dependable'.
"Good news"  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/25/2023 1:02 pm : link
about not winning the Super Bowl, we won't get Joe Flacco'd.
I'm  
AcidTest : 1/25/2023 3:42 pm : link
not sure I wouldn't prefer Love to McKinney. Love is very versatile and would likely be much cheaper than McKinney. Love, Pinnock, and Belton could be good enough, and would allow us to put our resources elsewhere.
Gates will be back  
AcesUp : 1/25/2023 3:49 pm : link
Guy was starting games this year waaaay ahead of schedule. The staff seems to like him as well. I imagine they'll want to see what he looks like another year recovered. He won't break the bank either.
RE: A few of my thoughts  
Ivan15 : 1/25/2023 4:56 pm : link
In comment 16013298 Vin_Cuccs said:
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I think Nick Williams played pretty well. He was starting for a window of time this past season. I wouldn't mind bringing him back for depth.

I could see a scenario where Love takes bigger money elsewhere. I like him, but he seems like an average player.

This might be semantics, but I don't think Barkley "walks." The worst case would be a franchise tag and trade situation.

I think the Ximines experiment has to end.

I wonder if there are better options than Richie James in the slot. Shepard and Robinson would both be above him on the depth chart if healthy (I know, big if) and he will likely want to look for a starting spot.

I wonder if there are better options at punter. I hope they at least look into this.

Nick Williams has some age on him, but they did like him before he was hurt.
Ximines is in the same situation as several of DGs draftees. Underperforming but coming to the end of the rookie contract. Unless the rookie contract carries a big cap number (I don’t think we have anyone like that since everyone is slotted), you keep him around, put him on the 90-man roster and hope the light bulb comes on. If not, he gets cut in August or sooner.
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