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NFT: Rangers at Maple Leafs 7:30 (TNT)

Costy16 : 1/25/2023 9:42 am
I didn't realize until this morning this was on TNT.

Cuylle will make his debut in his hometown, will have friends and family in the stands. Hope he plays well and becomes a regular in the lineup. He has 13 goals in 39 games, with 5 in his lats 8. Also third on Hartford in points.

It looks like based off of what I read in the Post this morning that Kravstov is going to get scratched tonight after playing in 17 consecutive games. With Gallant admitting he's not a 4th line player and serves better in the top 9, but right now there is no room to put him.
I think Kravtzov need some serious strength work. He has the skills  
Victor in CT : 1/25/2023 9:45 am : link
but he seems weak on the puck when challenged. THat's what is holding him back.

that said, Laf keeps getting rolled out there and has not done much.
RE: I think Kravtzov need some serious strength work. He has the skills  
Costy16 : 1/25/2023 9:48 am : link
In comment 16013250 Victor in CT said:
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but he seems weak on the puck when challenged. THat's what is holding him back.

that said, Laf keeps getting rolled out there and has not done much.


Kravstov needs to get stronger, no doubt. He does get pushed around too easily, doesn't go into too many corners or board battles.
I think Kravtsov  
pjcas18 : 1/25/2023 9:51 am : link
gets dealt at the deadline.

the top 6 crunch doesn't get easier next year and Chtil, Lafreniere, and Kravtsov are al RFA's as is Miller and role players like Gauthier and no backup goalie. and probably have $8 - $10M in room (without any trades of say someone like Goodrow to make room))

I guess maybe the Rangers could trade Lafreniere, but I think one of those two (more likely Kravtsov IMO) gets moved in a deal for a top 4 D or top 6 F at the deadline.

RE: I think Kravtsov  
Victor in CT : 1/25/2023 9:56 am : link
In comment 16013265 pjcas18 said:
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gets dealt at the deadline.

the top 6 crunch doesn't get easier next year and Chtil, Lafreniere, and Kravtsov are al RFA's as is Miller and role players like Gauthier and no backup goalie. and probably have $8 - $10M in room (without any trades of say someone like Goodrow to make room))

I guess maybe the Rangers could trade Lafreniere, but I think one of those two (more likely Kravtsov IMO) gets moved in a deal for a top 4 D or top 6 F at the deadline.


could be. the crunch you mention makes it all the more puzzling that they add Trochek with a long term/no move/big $$ deal to an already top heavy strcuture.
Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
Anakim : 1/25/2023 10:00 am : link
I mean from a points standpoint, he's doing fine. 32 points in 47 games is great. And the skillset is apparent. But we brought him in specifically to play with Panarin and they haven't meshed well. Trocheck is a much better talent than Strome, but Strome had way better chemistry with Panarin.

I guess it takes time. I mean it is Trocheck's first year here after all.
RE: RE: I think Kravtsov  
pjcas18 : 1/25/2023 10:03 am : link
In comment 16013276 Victor in CT said:
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gets dealt at the deadline.

the top 6 crunch doesn't get easier next year and Chtil, Lafreniere, and Kravtsov are al RFA's as is Miller and role players like Gauthier and no backup goalie. and probably have $8 - $10M in room (without any trades of say someone like Goodrow to make room))

I guess maybe the Rangers could trade Lafreniere, but I think one of those two (more likely Kravtsov IMO) gets moved in a deal for a top 4 D or top 6 F at the deadline.




could be. the crunch you mention makes it all the more puzzling that they add Trochek with a long term/no move/big $$ deal to an already top heavy strcuture.


Needed a C. They lack centers even in the prospect pool.

Othmann and Cuylle are LW's too making it even more crowded.

RE: RE: RE: I think Kravtsov  
Anakim : 1/25/2023 10:06 am : link
In comment 16013293 pjcas18 said:
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gets dealt at the deadline.

the top 6 crunch doesn't get easier next year and Chtil, Lafreniere, and Kravtsov are al RFA's as is Miller and role players like Gauthier and no backup goalie. and probably have $8 - $10M in room (without any trades of say someone like Goodrow to make room))

I guess maybe the Rangers could trade Lafreniere, but I think one of those two (more likely Kravtsov IMO) gets moved in a deal for a top 4 D or top 6 F at the deadline.




could be. the crunch you mention makes it all the more puzzling that they add Trochek with a long term/no move/big $$ deal to an already top heavy strcuture.



Needed a C. They lack centers even in the prospect pool.

Othmann and Cuylle are LW's too making it even more crowded.


Yeah, I mention that yesterday. And Sykora!
RE: Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
pjcas18 : 1/25/2023 10:08 am : link
In comment 16013288 Anakim said:
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I mean from a points standpoint, he's doing fine. 32 points in 47 games is great. And the skillset is apparent. But we brought him in specifically to play with Panarin and they haven't meshed well. Trocheck is a much better talent than Strome, but Strome had way better chemistry with Panarin.

I guess it takes time. I mean it is Trocheck's first year here after all.


Trocheck is best as a 3C IMO, and a specials player.

Maybe his contract is too big for that, but it's what the Rangers needed and he's playing 2C. I would take Trocheck over Strome.

Ideally Chytil leapfrogs Trocheck at some point.

Strength up the middle is crucial in the NHL and I still say the face off is the most underrated moment in the game.

So much good or bad can be traced to a won or lost face off.

Trocheck on the dots: 56.6% Strome on the dots: 42.7% - that is massive IMO.
RE: I think Kravtzov need some serious strength work. He has the skills  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/25/2023 10:12 am : link
In comment 16013250 Victor in CT said:
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but he seems weak on the puck when challenged. THat's what is holding him back.

that said, Laf keeps getting rolled out there and has not done much.


I'm interested to see how Laf plays tonight. He's coming off his best game of the year, IMO. He had a significant jump to his skating last game. Add in a greasy goal and an assist, I'm really looking forward to seeing if he can string back to back good games.
RE: RE: I think Kravtzov need some serious strength work. He has the skills  
Victor in CT : 1/25/2023 10:13 am : link
In comment 16013314 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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but he seems weak on the puck when challenged. THat's what is holding him back.

that said, Laf keeps getting rolled out there and has not done much.



I'm interested to see how Laf plays tonight. He's coming off his best game of the year, IMO. He had a significant jump to his skating last game. Add in a greasy goal and an assist, I'm really looking forward to seeing if he can string back to back good games.


Let's hope!
RE: RE: Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
Will Shine : 1/25/2023 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16013306 pjcas18 said:
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Maybe his contract is too big for that


Trouba redux
RE: Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
RobCrossRiver56 : 1/25/2023 2:46 pm : link
In comment 16013288 Anakim said:
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I mean from a points standpoint, he's doing fine. 32 points in 47 games is great. And the skillset is apparent. But we brought him in specifically to play with Panarin and they haven't meshed well. Trocheck is a much better talent than Strome, but Strome had way better chemistry with Panarin.

I guess it takes time. I mean it is Trocheck's first year here after all.


When it comes to Trochek it's faceoffs !!
Game time is at 7:00  
Gman11 : 1/25/2023 2:53 pm : link
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Route 9 : 1/25/2023 4:32 pm : link
I guess it's hockey season. What I miss? I don't have MSG anymore.
Kravtsov scratched  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/25/2023 5:32 pm : link
Tonight.

Blah.
RE: Kravtsov scratched  
Anakim : 1/25/2023 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16014030 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Tonight.

Blah.


I'm fine with it. Not a fourth liner.
RE: Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/25/2023 6:34 pm : link
In comment 16013288 Anakim said:
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I mean from a points standpoint, he's doing fine. 32 points in 47 games is great. And the skillset is apparent. But we brought him in specifically to play with Panarin and they haven't meshed well. Trocheck is a much better talent than Strome, but Strome had way better chemistry with Panarin.

I guess it takes time. I mean it is Trocheck's first year here after all.


I really liked the Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey line. They were good for 2 or 3 weeks, then GG split them up.

As for Kravy, I just don’t have an argument for keeping him in the lineup. Even though the numbers aren’t particularly different, he doesn’t resemble the player we saw for a spell a few years ago. That guy played downhill and aggressive.

Best of luck to Cullye.
What a goal by Chytil off the faceoff.....rarely see that!  
rnargi : 1/25/2023 8:09 pm : link
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Chytil  
Servo 2.0 : 1/25/2023 8:09 pm : link
Just scored right off the puck drop a la Mario Lemieux! 1-1
Brilliant pla6 by the kids  
rnargi : 1/25/2023 8:15 pm : link
Chytil with 2 now.
Kid line buzzing tonight  
Rick in Dallas : 1/25/2023 8:19 pm : link
RE: Brilliant pla6 by the kids  
Servo 2.0 : 1/25/2023 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16014230 rnargi said:
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Chytil with 2 now.


They need to keep that line together. They are so much better together.
RE: Chytil  
Vanzetti : 1/25/2023 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16014220 Servo 2.0 said:
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Just scored right off the puck drop a la Mario Lemieux! 1-1


That's what I was thinking. Maybe it was just luck. But on replay it looked like he did it on purpose.

The second goal he one-timed it like Ovechkin.
Rangers playing fast tonight  
Rick in Dallas : 1/25/2023 8:39 pm : link
And tight defense so far. No odd man rushes.. good effort through 2 periods
RE: Rangers playing fast tonight  
Vanzetti : 1/25/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16014248 Rick in Dallas said:
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And tight defense so far. No odd man rushes.. good effort through 2 periods


That second goal by Chytil was a thing of beauty. Two great passes and then a one timer
RE: RE: Chytil  
rnargi : 1/25/2023 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16014239 Vanzetti said:
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Just scored right off the puck drop a la Mario Lemieux! 1-1



That's what I was thinking. Maybe it was just luck. But on replay it looked like he did it on purpose.

The second goal he one-timed it like Ovechkin.


He absolutely shot it on purpose. Hell of a play.
RE: RE: Trocheck's been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes  
Will Shine : 1/25/2023 8:55 pm : link
In comment 16014107 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I really liked the Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey line. They were good for 2 or 3 weeks, then GG split them up.



Agreed, but who would be RW for Mika? I don't want to break up the kid line again.

Kravvy is not there yet.
Too much standing around in their own zone again  
rnargi : 1/25/2023 9:23 pm : link
Never challenging the puck. Shesty was hung out tobdrybon that
Toronto really pushing here  
NYerInMA : 1/25/2023 9:26 pm : link
Rangers need to push back.
Welp  
JoeMoney19 : 1/25/2023 9:35 pm : link
That sucked. We deserved it, but that really sucked.
At least they got a point  
rnargi : 1/25/2023 9:35 pm : link
They gave this game away
nice work  
Mook80 : 1/25/2023 9:36 pm : link
by Kreider in the 3rd period making sure Toronto got it to overtime. Fuck
Embarrassing shit.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/25/2023 9:36 pm : link
This team looks awful 3 on 3 at times. Lucky they even got the point after the Tavares post.
not only  
Mook80 : 1/25/2023 9:37 pm : link
missing the open net to go up 2 but then being responsible for the tying goal because he was puck watching
Fucking brutal  
Anakim : 1/25/2023 9:38 pm : link
Krieder, Panarin, Trocheck and Zibanejad were terrible
RE: nice work  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/25/2023 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16014281 Mook80 said:
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by Kreider in the 3rd period making sure Toronto got it to overtime. Fuck


TNT made sure to point out his multiple fuckups.
RE: RE: nice work  
Victor in CT : 1/26/2023 8:29 am : link
In comment 16014287 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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by Kreider in the 3rd period making sure Toronto got it to overtime. Fuck



TNT made sure to point out his multiple fuckups.


yeah like putting in the goalie's back from the crease. That was the game. Looks like he's in one of his disappearing periods that he has occasionally.
Gallant  
Costy16 : 1/26/2023 8:38 am : link
What game is he watching out there? The Kid Line exceeded the two lines ahead of them tonight, so he DOESN'T play them during the most crucial junctures of the game. The 4th line averages 6 MINUTES per player for the GAME! 2 mins period? Why even bother trotting them out there??
Gallant's deployments never seem to have any rhyme nor reason  
Greg from LI : 1/26/2023 9:15 am : link
Both in terms of him changing the lines for no apparent reason as well as which lines get which minutes.
Crazy thing is  
ColHowPepper : 1/26/2023 9:31 am : link
I don't recall a better skating period than the 2nd all season. And Chytil's second was terrific work by each of the Kids. And then they sit. And Kreider, living up to his reviews in this space. At his cap cost.
Kid line was dynamite last night  
Rick in Dallas : 1/26/2023 9:32 am : link
Kreider drives me crazy. I feel at times that he plays a lazy non physical game. Last night was one of those games
I am so sick and tired of not finishing games  
Essex : 1/26/2023 9:42 am : link
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Rangers extend Harpur through 24/25  
Mad Mike : 1/26/2023 2:31 pm : link
$775K AAV .
RE: Rangers extend Harpur through 24/25  
Victor in CT : 1/26/2023 2:49 pm : link
In comment 16014996 Mad Mike said:
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$775K AAV .


I like him. He's steady. And tough.
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